Re: USRA SS boxcar underframe question
Robert kirkham
Actually, not Tichy. I know they offered a 7/8 end, but I always felt it wasn't right for the CPR cars. The biggest practical issue was the length of the ribs, which I felt did not terminate the right distance from the corners - they look too short. https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ends/p/3058/Default.aspx That's probably not a significant consideration for a fleet car for most folks, but as a CPR modeler it was something I wanted to address. In addition they come with the cast on end ladder stiles.
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I toyed with cutting Accurail ends off their SS 7/8 end cars, as they look right for the CPR fleet. Trouble is they are a margin too slim for the Tichy cars. Instead of sawing the Tichy cars in half to narrow that smidgen, I am 3d printing my own ends. <https://www.shapeways.com/product/N5U6238UF/ho-7-8-murphy-end-for-usra-ss-boxcar?li=shop-results&optionId=1883358> Costly for more than a couple of cars, so I will add Archer rivets etc and then find a way to have them cast. Rob Kirkham
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 9:30 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: USRA SS boxcar underframe question Don Valentine wrote: "I have wondered about a CPR conversion of the Tichy USRA single sheathed boxcar as well. Now I am wondering whose 7/8 Murphy ends you might be using." Tichy. He offered the CPR car as kit #4034 and the 7/8 ends separately as part #3058. https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ho_freight-car-kits/p/4034/Default.aspx https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ends/p/3058/Default.aspx Ben Hom ------------------------------------ Posted by: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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The Stan Rydarowitz Collection
m repka
To all my FB friends who knew Stan Rydarowicz. Beginning Sunday evening I
will start listing some of Stan's material on EBay. I will try to do
approximately 10 or more per week as my time permits. This is a labor of
love for a good friend who is no longer with us. I am doing this with
the permission of Diane Rydarowicz who is Stan's executor.
My EBay user ID is Marksd45. I will also use the term "Rydarowicz train collection" in the description fields. Please feel free to share this on the various RR model and Historical Society pages. I have a 100% rating and I generally start the auctions on Sunday evenings. Stan has some exquisite models and this will be a fair way to ensure anyone has and equal shot at this material. There will also be some items that are not as unique sold at the Youngstown Model RR Flea Market at McMenamys Banquet Hall in Niles OH on April 10th Mark
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Re: CB&Q 1952 boxcar paint and decals
Jerry Hamsmith
Accurate CB&Q XM-32 decals in HO scale have been and are available from me. The decals are appropriate for any of the cars from this class built between 1940 and 1953. The decals are in the appropriate railroad roman white lettering and include the Everywhere West and Way of the Zephyrs script slogans as well as the boxed Burlington Route herald used on these boxcar red cars before 1958. I have other CB&Q decals available also. Anyone interested should contact me, off list, at hammersr@... Jerry Hamsmith
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Re: Red Caboose ARA 1923 boxcar
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 2/14/2016 9:10 AM, carl roberts
eagleu18b@... [STMFC] wrote:
said they did not have enough parts sprues to complete a kit at this time Does IM still shoot the sprues in the US? I know most details but it's been a few years since I've been there! -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: NYC train consists
You've given me a model for sharing my Southern Railway 1934 train info! Right now it is still PDF scans and a growing Excel spreadsheet. I can easily convert to html tables. Dave Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone
On Feb 13, 2016, at 6:27 PM, trlink@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: USRA SS boxcar underframe question
Benjamin Hom
Don Valentine wrote:
"I have wondered about a CPR conversion of the Tichy USRA single sheathed boxcar as well. Now I am wondering whose 7/8 Murphy ends you might be using." Tichy. He offered the CPR car as kit #4034 and the 7/8 ends separately as part #3058. https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ho_freight-car-kits/p/4034/Default.aspx https://www.tichytraingroup.com/Shop/tabid/91/c/ends/p/3058/Default.aspx Ben Hom
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Re: Red Caboose ARA 1923 boxcar
carl roberts
Spoke to them last week about this very car( ex RED CABOOSE #7003, I need 6 myself). They called me back two days latter and said they did not have enough parts sprues to complete a kit at this time, however if I see them offering a run of RTR 1923 ARA cars to call them and they could add undec kits to the run. No indication when that might be. Carl Roberts
On Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:34 PM, "Mark P Stamm mark@... [STMFC]" wrote: Does anyone know if Intermountain plans to offer undec kits for the Red Caboose ARA 1923 box car?
Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com Sent from my mobile device
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Re: NYC train consists
Eric Hansmann
What fabulous windows into the past! Thank you, Terry! Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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Re: USRA SS boxcar underframe question
riverman_vt@...
Hello Rod,
I have wondered about a CPR conversion of the Tichy USRA single sheathed boxcar as well. Now I am wondering whose 7/8 Murphy ends you might be using. Have you found any other major modifications other than the mentioned stringers? Thank you, Don Valentine
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Centralia UP ccabooses.
asychis@...
I hope this is appropriate to post. Please reply off list. I am
looking for one or two of these cabooses in the red oxide scheme (already
assembled or still in kit form). Got a surprise project for a good friend.
Thanks,
Jerry Michels
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Re: NYC train consists
Rob M.
Much great information there Terry. Thank you!
A quick perusal shows more than a few interesting things. A Northampton and Bath NYC USRA clone box car loaded with (bagged) cement at least 500 miles from the originating point in the cement belt of PA: 1942 Train Consist
A Pacific Electric B-50-14 car number 2735 loaded with wallboard: http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-020742.htm Eight days later, PE 2735 mt, routed to Chicago http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-021542-2.htm Three days later PE 2735 loaded with hay, routed to Tampa! http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-021842-2.htm
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Red Caboose ARA 1923 boxcar
Does anyone know if Intermountain plans to offer undec kits for the Red Caboose ARA 1923 box car?
Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com Sent from my mobile device
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Re: CB&Q 1952 boxcar paint and decals
Thanks to all who too the time to reply. Great feedback and I really appreciate your help
Fenton Wells
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Re: CB&Q 1952 boxcar paint and decals
Fenton you might want to take a look at this page http://www.burlingtonroute.com/docs/modelling/painting.html
Doug Harding
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Re: Bx-26 in SL Map scheme
John Barry
No, Mark, you didn't miss anything. I just brought in a reply to an off line query about the Bx-26 that I thought would benefit the group. The Bx-26 and Bx-27 were delivered in the pre map scheme and I have discovered what may be the only photo that shows a Bx-26 in the map scheme. The car appears in the background of an Ft-N photo in the CSRM library. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "Mark P Stamm mark@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Bx-26 in SL Map scheme John What photograph are you referring to. Did I miss a post. Thanks Mark Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com
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Re: CB&Q 1952 boxcar paint and decals
Allan Smith
The paint mix guide from RPC shows under Red Browns CB&Q Floquil 1 part #88 to 3 parts #175. Of course you can add a little grey to simulate fading. Al Smith Sonora CA On Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:50 AM, "srrfan1401@... [STMFC]" I want to paint a steel boxcar for the early 1950s for CB&Q in HO. Can anyone give me the model paint(lacquer) and decal sources. I have plenty of Floquil and Scale Coat II. I see Microscale has the wood boxcar decals will they work? I don't know much about the CB&Q. Thanking you all in advance Fenton Wells
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USRA SS boxcar underframe question
Robert kirkham
I’m working on a bunch of Tichy USRA SS boxcar kits, converting them to CPR using 7/8 Murphy ends etc. I am wanting to change details as I go to match the prototype fairly closely. As I was looking at the model underframe and the USRA drawings I noticed (among other things) there are no stringers – i.e. no length wise frame supports outboard of the centre sills. The lengthwise framing shown is comprised of just the two centre sills and the two side sills. Cross members or cross bearers (I can never recall what the difference means) tie the sills together between the bolsters. This is consistent in the CPR drawings I have obtain. <http://www.cptracks.ca/data/Mechanical_Drawings_Freight/H-417_USRA_Clone_1920.pdf>
One noteworthy difference between the original USRA design and the CPR cars was a grain hopper beneath the side doors on the CPR car. These were removed in the late 1930s, so not part of my models. But the removal of the hoppers did give me reason to think the frames may have changed or been different from original design. So I looked for photos. And there in the photos, between side sills and centre sills, runs what I initially took to be a stringer. Actually, it isn’t one long piece from bolster to bolster. Instead, it is a series of short pieces (each roughly 3.5’ to 4’ long) bolted between each pair of cross members, for the length of the car (between body bolsters). I’d love to know if these were “as built” in spite of the drawings, or a later reinforcement. The photos were of preserved equipment, taken this century, so no guide to how things were in the 1940s. I’m also curious whether this was part of the construction of other USRA SS cars – in spite of no mention in the drawings? By the way, looking over the Tichy kits and de-spruing parts, I’ve noticed that over the various kits I have collected, the underframe components have changed subtly over time. Some of the centre sill pieces came with cast in place styrene brake hangers; others were designed with small notches into which separate brake hanger parts were to be glued. The sprues are also different over time. Who knew the kit was being modified – ha! I was oblivious. Anyhow, FYI. Rob Kirkham
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Re: Bx-26 in SL Map scheme
John What photograph are you referring to. Did I miss a post. Thanks Mark Mark P Stamm Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com
On Feb 12, 2016, at 1:30 PM, John Barry northbaylines@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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NYC train consists
Terry Link
I have just completed another 627 NYC train consists covering a Toledo-Fort
Wayne way freight and 3 branches that radiate out of Hillsdale, Michigan in the years 1933-1936 and 1941-1944. Adding these to the previous consists brings a total of 1325 trains listed on the website. Toledo Airline - 334 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-airline.htm Ypsilanti Branch - 150 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-ypsilanti.htm Fort Wayne Branch - 126 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-fortwayne.htm Lansing Branch - 17 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-lansing.htm Previous consists: Western Division - 45 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-western.htm Toledo-Lake Division - 641 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-toledo.htm Canada Southern - 12 trains http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/freight-consists-caso.htm Terry Link Bramalea, Ontario www.canadasouthern.com
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New Haven AAR Roof question NHRHTA Shoreliner ~ Question
Greg Martin
Hey Yuze Gize,
I have a question regarding the terminology used in the folios of the cars
regarding the "type" of roof. It clearly states that the roof were "Hutchins Dry
Lading riveted type all steel". I am very familiar with what we refer to as the
Hutchins Dry Lading roof and it's appearance. I guess my question really
is was the "raise flat panel roof" the standard that the car
part suppliers were stamping at the time? Was this under a licence
agreement to another producer. The photos show a flat rectangular raised panel
I don't want to start a thread regarding the misuse of
terminology so please let's not go there. I just wanted to know if there was
a "stamping" or "design" that all the parts suppliers were using under an
agreement?
Maybe this is a rhetorical but I really just want to confirm it.
TIA
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean
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