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Re: Ambroid Phosphate Cars

Scott H. Haycock
 

The Phosphate Covered Hoppers were covered in RPC #4, unfortunately, out of print.



Scott Haycock


 

Just a P.S. to my post.  I do remember hearing that there was a RPC article on phosphate cars and the ACL/SBD mag may have had an article way back when.  So far, I have had no luck acquiring either of them.  I would really like to find something online that I can download.



Re: Ambroid Phosphate Cars

al_brown03
 

There's a Larry Goolsby article in Lines South, 3rd/1994 pp 4-11, on ACL and SAL freight cars from the Standard Steel Car Company. He identifies the Ambroid model as ACL 8075-8174, class U-4 (SSC, 1920), and shows a builder's photo of ACL 8174. This photo also appears in the 1922 Car Builder's Cyc, p 174, and Train Shed Cyc 62, p 220. Mr Goolsby has another article in Lines South, 1st/2002 pp 4-13, on ACL phosphate hoppers in general; the U-4 class is listed but not shown.


Hth,


Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Palomar Observatory Mirror Blank Delivery 5/12/1936

 

The first blank was flawed and rejected.  It’s on display at the Corning Museum. – Al Westerfield
 

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The mirror blank was made by Corning Incorporated (probably still the Corning Glass Works at that time) in Corning NY or Canton NY, hence the NYC freight cars.

Todd Sullivan
Liverpool NY
(ex-Corning employee)


Re: Corection: Enhanced kit for M&StL post-war 10'0" box car

Schleigh Mike
 

Thumbing through some old TRAINS Andy----

I found on the back cover of the July 1952 issue a full-page ad from the M&StL announcing the purchase of 700 new "GREEN and GOLD BOX CARS on the M. & St. L.  Green Cars with Gold Markings!"  The ad went on to point out that practically all the 750,000 box cars on the American railroads were (box car) Red.  They  were using something new to tell the world about "Fast M. & St. L. Freight Service in the Great Midwest."  Nice side view of M&St L 4382.  Cars were 4000-4398, even numbers.

Thanks again for making up this kit----Mike Schleigh


On Monday, February 1, 2016 10:13 AM, "Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I responded to quickly to Clark's query. I don't have enough for 6 more M&StL kits, as I am out of the South West Production doors for this project. I will post to the list when I get replacements.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

 
Andy, If you let the customer buy decals from Mark Vaughan can you supply more part kits?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa







Re: Ambroid Phosphate Cars

John Sykes III
 

Just a P.S. to my post.  I do remember hearing that there was a RPC article on phosphate cars and the ACL/SBD mag may have had an article way back when.  So far, I have had no luck acquiring either of them.  I would really like to find something online that I can download.


Re: Hazard decals

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Jim
Thank you.
Paul Doggett UK




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"James E Kubanick jekuban@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Paul,

That would be Microscae 87-975. In addition, this set contains placards for non-tank cars. This set covers the period 1945-1970. Avery useful set.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV




On Thursday, February 18, 2016 7:59 AM, "'paul.doggett2472' paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Hi guys

Someone posted the microscale decal sheet number with hazard signs for tank cars could any one please advise on the ho sheet number.
Many thanks Paul Doggett UK


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Re: Hazard decals

James E Kubanick
 

Paul,

That would be Microscae 87-975. In addition, this set contains placards for non-tank cars. This set covers the period 1945-1970. Avery useful set.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV




On Thursday, February 18, 2016 7:59 AM, "'paul.doggett2472' paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Hi guys

Someone posted the microscale decal sheet number with hazard signs for tank cars could any one please advise on the ho sheet number.
Many thanks Paul Doggett UK


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Re: GM&O Gon

william darnaby
 

Thanks, Ed. This really helps. The model has Dreadnaught ends so it must
be lot 2694 and, therefore, the included aluminum lettering is incorrect.
Of course one could make the case that the car had been repainted in the
1949 scheme but that ice seems a little thin for wandering out on. I will
follow the leads provided on this list for white lettering.



Bill Darnaby





Bill,

GM&O had four series of similar gondola cars built by ACF from 1944 to 1953
in series 13000-13124 (lot 2694, 8-44), 13500-13599 (lot 3297, 12-48),
13600-14099 (lot 3395, 9-49), and 14400-14799 (lot 4120, 10-53). The 1944
cars had fixed Dreadnaught while the other three had fixed Improved
Dreadnaught Ends. All cars came with riveted steel floors.



The following paint specs come from ACF bills of materials for the first 3
series and ACF drawing 220-7904 for the last series.



Lot 2694: Sherwin-Williams Black - outside of sides & ends, trucks, Milar
black car cement - u/f; white - stencils.



Lot 3297: Black (semi-flat) -entire car; white - stencils.



Lot 3395: Black car cement - entire body, u/f; black paint - trucks;
aluminum - stencils.



Lot 4120: Flintkote #1 Black Car Cement - outside of sides & ends, u/f;
black paint - AB brake parts, trucks; Prismo reflecting glass beads -
reporting marks, car numbers; aluminum - all other stencils.



One additional series 14100-14399 was built in 1952 by Pullman-Standard (lot
8032), however, I don't have paint specs for these cars.



Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ed Hawkins


Re: Palomar Observatory Mirror Blank Delivery 5/12/1936

Gerry Fitzgerald
 

I have been working on an article on the lens movement by rail for Classic Trains and hope to hand it in shortly. It is a really interesting story.

Gerard

Gerard J. Fitzgerald
Charlottesville, Virginia


Ambroid Phosphate Cars

John Sykes III
 

Probably has come up before, but I’ve got a question for the ACL types (Uncle Joe, etc.).  Has anyone seen photos of the prototype of the Ambroid 1 in 5000 phosphate covered hopper?  I’ve searched and searched, bought two books on ACL freight cars and no luck.  There are tons of photos online of the model and I’ve found some photos that are similar, but none dead-on.  I also cannot find an ORER with them listed as-built.  I bought two kits that were already built and have a third unbuilt kit but would like to know more about the prototype.


I think they might have originally been built as open-top ballast hoppers (Rogers?) then had the wood superstructure added to them with the unusual side loading doors.  The other unusual feature is the center discharge hoppers.  Finally, I suspect that these cars may have had the wood tops removed later, since there are similar open top hoppers listed in the 1954 ORER but mostly with saw-tooth outlets.


I think the correct series for these cars may be 8100-8199, but am not even sure of that.  Help!!!


-- John



Re: The Stan Rydarowitz Collection

Greg Martin
 

Agreed Clark, but he has to have all the masters back to get it back into production.  I too would like to see the line continued including the passenger car equipment he was doing.   
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
Clark Propst writes:

"I asked Mark the other day if anyone has offered to buy ‘the business’ meaning the remaining kits, castings, masters, plus the car parts. He said no. It would be nice if at least  the parts line continued...
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa"


Re: Palomar Observatory Mirror Blank Delivery 5/12/1936

Bruce Smith
 

Ben, Folks,

A neat story that I had not heard of before.  I found some additional on-line and photos information. 

The history of the telescope can be found at: http://www.astro.caltech.edu/palomar/about/history.html

The mirror blank was cast by Corning Glass Works in Pyrex, which was new at the time.  The first attempt at pouring the mirror occurred in March 1934, with great fanfare, and it failed.  That mirror is apparently on display at Corning.  The second attempt, done quietly on December 2, 1934, was successful.  The blank was annealed for 10 months and the oven was opened on October 25, 1935.  On March 25, 1936, the blank was loaded onto NYC S-499010 and departed for CalTech. There are reports that the train’s speed limit was 25 mph 

See http://www.journeytopalomar.org/palomar.html for a video showing the loading of the mirror onto the flat car and the train in motion, as well as the impact of the mirror as it traveled across the country.  Note that the video is an archaic Quick Time format and so you may need to download or tweak some of your computer’s tools.

The blank arrived at East Pasadena on April 10, 1936.  From there it was hauled by truck to CalTech.

The mirror would require 10 years of grinding and preparation before it was ready to be moved and installed at Mount Palomar, in part because of the demands of WWII on manpower.  In October 1947, the mirror was moved by truck to Mount Palomar to be installed in the telescope named after it’s creator, George Ellery Hale who had died 10 years previously.


From conception to completion, this project took 20 years!  So the next time you hear someone complaining about science not producing results instantly, think about the dedication of the folks who saw this project through. 

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Feb 18, 2016, at 9:50 AM, STMFC@... wrote:

Catching up on historical society pubs and came across John Signor's "Santa Fe and the Stars" in the 3rd Quarter 2015 issue of the SFRH&MS Warbonnet documenting the delivery of a 200" mirror blank from Pyrex via Santa Fe Extra 3157 on May 12, 1936.  Consist as follows:

ATSF 3157 (2-8-2)
NYC 121195 (Lot 559-B USRA-design steel boxcar)
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-559.jpg
NYC 499010 (Lot 273-F well flat)
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-273.jpg
ATSF 1680 (Caboose)


Article includes four photos showing the delivery of the mirror blank.



Ben Hom 


Re: Palomar Observatory Mirror Blank Delivery 5/12/1936

Todd Sullivan
 

The mirror blank was made by Corning Incorporated (probably still the Corning Glass Works at that time) in Corning NY or Canton NY, hence the NYC freight cars.

Todd Sullivan
Liverpool NY
(ex-Corning employee)


Palomar Observatory Mirror Blank Delivery 5/12/1936

Benjamin Hom
 

Catching up on historical society pubs and came across John Signor's "Santa Fe and the Stars" in the 3rd Quarter 2015 issue of the SFRH&MS Warbonnet documenting the delivery of a 200" mirror blank from Pyrex via Santa Fe Extra 3157 on May 12, 1936. Consist as follows:

ATSF 3157 (2-8-2)
NYC 121195 (Lot 559-B USRA-design steel boxcar)
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-559.jpg
NYC 499010 (Lot 273-F well flat)
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-273.jpg
ATSF 1680 (Caboose)


Article includes four photos showing the delivery of the mirror blank.



Ben Hom


Re: Blog

Marty McGuirk
 

Ted,


I wouldn't worry about it too much - Same thing happened to one of mine way back in the early days - a phone call to BlogSpot tech support took care of the problem.


Marty


Blog

Ted Culotta
 

To avoid any wasted bandwidth, long threads and discussions, rumors, innuendo, etc., I am aware that my blog, prototopics.blogspot.com, that often covers topics related to Steam Era Freight Cars, has been removed, deleted or whatever it is called, by the good folks at Google. They suspected that it was some sort of phishing operation (if only it was that easy to make money in a model railroad related field.) I have begun their appeal process and I am sure that in about 365 days they will find in their favor (I am hopeful that is in alignment with reinstating the blog.) I'll let you all know what happens. Back to regular programming. I'll try to finis the F29 flat car by the time they reinstate the blog.

Cheers,
Ted

--
Ted Culotta
Speedwitch Media


Re: [EXTERNAL] Hazard decals

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Elden 
Thank you.
Paul Doggett UK




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"'Gatwood, Elden SAW' elden.j.gatwood@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Paul;

I think the one you want is 87-975, for period 1945-70.

Elden Gatwood

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Hi guys

Someone posted the microscale decal sheet number with hazard signs for tank cars could any one please advise on the ho sheet number.
Many thanks Paul Doggett UK


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Re: The Stan Rydarowitz Collection

Clark Propst
 

I asked Mark the other day if anyone has offered to buy ‘the business’ meaning the remaining kits, castings, masters, plus the car parts. He said no. It would be nice if at least  the parts line continued...
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: [EXTERNAL] Hazard decals

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Paul;

I think the one you want is 87-975, for period 1945-70.

Elden Gatwood

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Hi guys

Someone posted the microscale decal sheet number with hazard signs for tank cars could any one please advise on the ho sheet number.
Many thanks Paul Doggett UK


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Hazard decals

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Hi guys

Someone posted the microscale decal sheet number with hazard signs for tank cars could any one please advise on the ho sheet number.
Many thanks Paul Doggett UK


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