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Re: What is this car?
rwitt_2000
I agree and the one next to it with ice bunkers. Others will know for sure, but guess is NYC express reefers with the heavy fishbelly side sills.
I can't find an on-line photo just now ... Bob Witt
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Re: What is this car?
mrprksr <mrprksr@...>
Looks like a milk car....Larry Mennie
On Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:43 PM, "'Dave Nelson' Lake_Muskoka@... [STMFC]" wrote: An eBay listing so the image will be available for about 6 days: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Southern-Pacific-Original-Negative-Aerial-View-Oakland-Pier-1949-/262332031082? In the string of 7 cars, closest to the bottom edge is a troop car, then a reefer, and then the car in question: no running board, 4, maybe 5 fans in the roof. Looks to be 40 ft long. Maybe a fishbelly sidesill. What is it? Dave Nelson
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What is this car?
Dave Nelson
An eBay listing so the image will be available for about 6 days: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Southern-Pacific-Original-Negative-Aerial-View-Oakland-Pier-1949-/262332031082?
In the string of 7 cars, closest to the bottom edge is a troop car, then a reefer, and then the car in question: no running board, 4, maybe 5 fans in the roof. Looks to be 40 ft long. Maybe a fishbelly sidesill. What is it?
Dave Nelson
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Re: B end of double sheathed NKP Boxcar
Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <b.hom@...> wrote : Gary Laasko wrote: "This picture appears to be the B end of a rebuilt NKP (only the N on the reporting marks shows) double sheathed boxcar: https://www.loc.gov/resource/fsa.8d12117/ Fail. The car has NOT been rebuilt, and you can make out an oval on the car side. NOT NKP, but NYC, specifically NYC 234700-234945 (ex-T&OC 14000-14249), Lot 386-B USRA DS boxcar Ben Hom ============== With the distinctive NYC system vertical board through both door stops to make a solid surface for the door to open against. Dennis Storzek
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Re: PFE 21919 R30-13
ed_mines
I look at photos of PFE reefers every day and many of them appear to have light colored grab irons. To beat a dead horse again did PFE orange sometimes bleach out to yellow? Even the dust jacket on the excellent book (worth every penny!) shows a few reefers more yellow than orange. Was there a regulation that said side grab irons on reefers had to be black? A regulation that said grab irons on cabooses had to be yellow? I've seen a few Erie caboose photos that show black grab irons. Getting back to reefer books, any news on ART & FGE books? Ed Mines
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Re: B end of double sheathed NKP Boxcar
gary laakso
Thanks, Ben!
gary laakso
still south of Mike Brock
From: mailto:STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:00 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] B end of double sheathed NKP
Boxcar Gary Laasko wrote:
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Re: B end of double sheathed NKP Boxcar
Benjamin Hom
Gary Laasko wrote:
"This picture appears to be the B end of a rebuilt NKP (only the N on the reporting marks shows) double sheathed boxcar: https://www.loc.gov/resource/fsa.8d12117/ Fail. The car has NOT been rebuilt, and you can make out an oval on the car side. NOT NKP, but NYC, specifically NYC 234700-234945 (ex-T&OC 14000-14249), Lot 386-B USRA DS boxcar Ben Hom
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B end of double sheathed NKP Boxcar
gary laakso
This picture appears to be the B end of a rebuilt NKP (only the N on the
reporting marks shows) double sheathed boxcar:
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
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Re: Steve Hoxie's S_N_T BX-28/31 car build
Greg Martin
Let me try this as an embedded photo.
Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean I wrote: Hey Yuze Gize, Here is a link to Steve Hoxie's recently completed ATSF BX-28 S_N_T USRA rebuilt car. The car is nicely built and what I find most interesting is the weathering he has applies, it is really well represented. I will let Steve address his weathering process. I have urged Steve to join the Resin Freight car list as well. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shake_N_Take/photos/albums/1180061535 Now Schuyler is likely to imprison me for sending attachments but I want to see if it works. For those that don't belong I will try an attachment to see if it works. If not then I will try to embed the image. Thanks, Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: GDB
np328
I would also throw in a vote for the Grain Door Bundles. I do not have the paperwork handy however if I recall correctly, in Duluth, MN had a...I will use the word "consortium". Not unlike where several railroads supported a Union Station and together underwrote the costs of the station operations. As I recall, just like soda bottles in the days we model, these door had a "deposit" associated with them. Two dollars for grain doors and four dollars for coal doors. On the line I have studied for modeling, this lead to cars returning to Duluth on occasion from flour mills on the line not with a hand full of doors, rather a few hundred from the busier mills. I believe all the railroads in Duluth/Superior used this firm to repair the doors and to serve a central repository to store the doors until needed. If I can find the paperwork, I will post it. Jim Dick - St. Paul
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Steve Hoxie's S_N_T BX-28/31 car build
Greg Martin
Hey Yuze Gize,
Here is a link to Steve Hoxie's recently completed ATSF BX-28 S_N_T USRA rebuilt car. The car is nicely built and what I find most interesting is the weathering he has applies, it is really well represented. I will let Steve address his weathering process. I have urged Steve to join the Resin Freight car list as well. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Shake_N_Take/photos/albums/1180061535 Now Schuyler is likely to imprison me for sending attachments but I want to see if it works. For those that don't belong I will try an attachment to see if it works. If not then I will try to embed the image. Thanks, Greg Martin Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. Norman Maclean
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Re: paint failure
Greg Martin
Erick,
That is their rebuilt auto box. In my bucket list....
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean
In a message dated 3/11/2016 6:31:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
STMFC@... writes:
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Re: gondola loads --top view
---In STMFC@..., <GEORGESIMMONS@...> wrote : Looks like loads of lumber to me. George W.Simmons Dry Prong, La. After copying & enlarging the image it looks to me like a load of large & long dimensional lumber i.e. not crates. Andy Jackson Santa Fe Springs CA
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Re: L&N Locos
william darnaby
I have a color photo of one in one of my Morning Sun books. Contact me off list so we don’t end up in jail.
wdarnaby@att.net <mailto:wdarnaby@att.net> Bill Darnaby From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:24 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] L&N Locos HHHEEELLLPPP!!! I took in some L&N power to work on for a customer -- one railroad I know absolutely nothing about. First, he gave me an FA2/FB2 to work on because the sound in the FB2 wasn't working. Turned out to be a loose speaker wire on the decoder board. So I asked him if he wanted them numbered (they are unnumbered Bachmann units). I ordered a set of Microscale 87-639 decals to get the "cream" numbers, but realized I could not find a photo of an early-1950's L&N FB2 for love money or marbles!!! I was only able to find two of the FA2 in that paint scheme. I think the Bachmann FB2 may be lettered wrong (it's not the same as the P2K FB2), but don't know if either is right since I can find nada photo of a real one. Any help? Also, does anyone know if the FA2/FB2 had diaphragms on them as delivered? Last issue. He gave me a Genesis Light Pacific in L&N and wanted to know what sound decoder he should get. I recommended a Soundtraxx, but think he is probably going to buy an MRC heavy steam sound decoder. The big problem is that when I tested the loco out, it had a hitch in the valve gear. When I finally figured that out (some heavy-handed $#@^&$$ squashed one of the rods), I noticed that there was also a problem with the gear on the center drivers slipping, or failing to engage the gears on the motor assembly. Very un-Genesis like, the gears are not very well made. I found two problems, first the gear appears to be slipping on the axle. Worst yet, it is slipping when rotating, and second, there is a lot of side to side play on the wheels (even though the center axle has blind drivers) so it is completely slipping off the drive gear laterally. I think a drop of thin superglue will solve problem 1 (worked for an Overland brass diesel of mine) and am thinking of putting a piece of plastic tube around the axle to limit its side to side play. I will split the tube and fit it around the axle then glue it back together (do NOT want to mess with the valve gear, pulling the wheels or quartering the drivers -- I don't have the tools do do either of the latter two). What sayest the experts here??? -- John
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L&N Locos
HHHEEELLLPPP!!! I took in some L&N power to work on for a customer -- one railroad I know absolutely nothing about. First, he gave me an FA2/FB2 to work on because the sound in the FB2 wasn't working. Turned out to be a loose speaker wire on the decoder board. So I asked him if he wanted them numbered (they are unnumbered Bachmann units). I ordered a set of Microscale 87-639 decals to get the "cream" numbers, but realized I could not find a photo of an early-1950's L&N FB2 for love money or marbles!!! I was only able to find two of the FA2 in that paint scheme. I think the Bachmann FB2 may be lettered wrong (it's not the same as the P2K FB2), but don't know if either is right since I can find nada photo of a real one. Any help? Also, does anyone know if the FA2/FB2 had diaphragms on them as delivered? Last issue. He gave me a Genesis Light Pacific in L&N and wanted to know what sound decoder he should get. I recommended a Soundtraxx, but think he is probably going to buy an MRC heavy steam sound decoder. The big problem is that when I tested the loco out, it had a hitch in the valve gear. When I finally figured that out (some heavy-handed $#@^&$$ squashed one of the rods), I noticed that there was also a problem with the gear on the center drivers slipping, or failing to engage the gears on the motor assembly. Very un-Genesis like, the gears are not very well made. I found two problems, first the gear appears to be slipping on the axle. Worst yet, it is slipping when rotating, and second, there is a lot of side to side play on the wheels (even though the center axle has blind drivers) so it is completely slipping off the drive gear laterally. I think a drop of thin superglue will solve problem 1 (worked for an Overland brass diesel of mine) and am thinking of putting a piece of plastic tube around the axle to limit its side to side play. I will split the tube and fit it around the axle then glue it back together (do NOT want to mess with the valve gear, pulling the wheels or quartering the drivers -- I don't have the tools do do either of the latter two). What sayest the experts here??? -- John
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Re: New Haven coal gondola
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Dave, Eric, and List Members,
Nicely done work! I have often considered modeling
this NH GA-2 class of gons in N scale - we have an ancient Arnold gondola that
would serve as a reasonable starting point - see link below:
Claus Schlund
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Re: When we used to make things
paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
SORRY DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GOT HERE. Paul Doggett UK Sent from Samsung mobile "'paul.doggett2472' paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Sent from Samsung mobile
-------- Original message --------
Subject: When we used to make things From: Barry Bennett <barrybennetttoo@...> To: Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...> CC:
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Re: PFE 21919 R30-13
Bill Welch
I am 70 years old. Hard to remember everything or was I making sure people were paying attention?
Bill Welch
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Re: GDB
Clark Propst
Looking at the cars I posted seems they stop then move down the line. Grain
doors is a good explanation for DGB, especially being grain doors are not
mentioned otherwise.
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: gondola loads --top view
George Simmons
Looks like loads of lumber to me.
George W.Simmons Dry Prong, La.
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