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Re: liquid cements for plastics

Mark Stamm
 

I also use MEK and Barge cement to build Proto87 turnout kits so I have used more than I assume is average. 

Mark

Mark P Stamm
Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com

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On Mar 21, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Mark Stamm wrote:



 
Wow MEK from Lowes in eastern PA is $21 a gallon!


    Don't think you will need a whole gallon, Mark.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

He might if he forgets to replace the cap back tightly!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA






Re: ATSF freight car red

David North
 

Hi Jon,

Acetone.

Cheers

Dave North


Re: trucks under NYC lot 488H hoppers

Guy Wilber
 

Scott wrote:

""T" sections were banned in
interchange in the early '50s."

A bit later, Scott..."T", "L" and "I" section side frames were prohibited in interchange as of January 1, 1957.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada


Re: Intermountain NRC reefer

Benjamin Hom
 

Fran Giacoma asked:
"Going thru my freight car fleet to weed out those beyond my operating era (October 1956) on my B&O layout. Came across an Intermountain reefer NRC 16621 (Illinois Central on it) with the only dated markings of "CUD 2-60". Is that the build date?"

No - it's the reweigh date. "CUD" is the station code for Cudahy.


Ben Hom


Re: Intermountain NRC reefer

Benjamin Hom
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"I think NYC began using Gothic lettering 12/1955."

Close - 8/1955.
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/NYC-MODELS-FREIGHT.htm


Ben Hom


Re: liquid cements for plastics

PDSteam <pdsteam@...>
 

  Yes a gallon is a lot, I bought a gallon 8 years ago and barely made a dent in it.  And use it for plastic cement exclusively and use it as a general cleaner for solvent based and acrylic paints.
  BUT it is WAY cheaper than buying those little bottles.

Pete Cesaro


On Mar 21, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Mark Stamm wrote:

 
Wow MEK from Lowes in eastern PA is $21 a gallon! 

    Don't think you will need a whole gallon, Mark.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: Scale coat I problems.

PDSteam <pdsteam@...>
 

Denny,
I had this happen years ago with their #1 - Loco Black and #10 - Black, back when they were Quality Craft. But it seemed limited to only these colors. Never had this happen with any other colors and I have some bottles that are 35 years old. I noticed this on bottles that had been used and also on brand new bottles that had never been opened.
The paint looked ok at first glance but if you look closely it appeared to have tiny particles that looked almost like bubbles that never go away. This made the paint look gritty when sprayed on.

With one of the bottles I tried to filter it with mixed results...so when I saw a jar doing this I usually just tossed it. I hated wasting the money the jar cost but it's not that much when you consider the time and effort to "fix" the paint job. And sometimes that means having to strip it and start over.

Pete
Matthews, NC

On Mar 20, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Craig Zeni clzeni@gmail.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:28 PM, STMFC@yahoogroups.com wrote:

3a. Scale coat I problems.
Posted by: "Anspach Denny" danspachmd@gmail.com docdenny34
Date: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:53 pm ((PDT))

I have long used Scalecoat I paints for my brass modeling, tasks that I only do episodically, sometimes a year or so apart, so that the paints sometimes sit years well-sealed between being called to duty. In this regard, I have a number of old metal cap pre-weaver bottles containing paints that certainly seem to be OK. But╜.but╜.I have just experienced my third bottle (among others over the years) where the well-mixed paint (1:1 Scalecoat I thinner, 18 psi) dries to about a 600-1000 grit finish, saved only by careful sanding and application of 0000 steel wool and Glosscoat. What a chore!

Have others had the same experience? Should I a priori pitch all these old bottles, a considerable investment?

There is nothing inheritantly wrong with old paint. I have used this past year to good and even superb effect several different iterations of SUPER Model Railroad Paint from late ╢40s.

Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864
I have had this happen...but only when I'm careless spraying and put it on too dry. New bottle, old bottle...done it with both. Make sure your regulator is still working properly. Otherwise the paint is my old reliable.


Craig Zeni
Cary NC





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liquid cements for plastics

Andy Carlson
 

Mark Stamm wrote:



 
Wow MEK from Lowes in eastern PA is $21 a gallon!


    Don't think you will need a whole gallon, Mark.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

He might if he forgets to replace the cap back tightly!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA






Re: liquid cements for plastics

Tony Thompson
 

Mark Stamm wrote:

 
Wow MEK from Lowes in eastern PA is $21 a gallon! 

    Don't think you will need a whole gallon, Mark.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: liquid cements for plastics

Mark Stamm
 

Wow MEK from Lowes in eastern PA is $21 a gallon! 

Mark P Stamm
Mark at Euphoriatt dot Com

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On Mar 21, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

On 3/20/2016 1:35 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] wrote:
MEK is not banned in California.

    Having fun this morning and called my local TAP Plastic (Fremont).  They have two gallons in stock at $40!  Cheaper to have it "Thunder Roaded" from NV at $30,  VBG!

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Intermountain NRC reefer

Tim O'Connor
 

It depends on the style of lettering. There were MDT-IC reefers in 1956
that used Roman style lettering. I think NYC began using Gothic lettering
12/1955. NRC followed the same lettering practice (changed from Roman to
Gothic) as NYC, MDT, but I don't know the exact date of the change.

So bottom line, if the lettering is Roman, I'd say you're good. If Gothic,
then I'm not certain -- the earliest Gothic NRC-IC reefer I've seen is from
June 1958

Tim O'Connor

Going thru my freight car fleet to weed out those beyond my operating era (October 1956) on my B&O layout. Came across an Intermountain reefer NRC 16621 (Illinois Central on it) with the only dated markings of "CUD 2-60". Is that the build date? Is this scheme (yellow car with green lettering) beyond my era? Thanks.

Fran Giacoma


Re: liquid cements for plastics

Jon Miller
 

On 3/20/2016 1:35 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] wrote:
MEK is not banned in California.

    Having fun this morning and called my local TAP Plastic (Fremont).  They have two gallons in stock at $40!  Cheaper to have it "Thunder Roaded" from NV at $30,  VBG!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


J.M. Huber

Richard Townsend
 

I am looking for a source for J.M. Huber tank car decals. This is for a steam era 8,000 gallon black tank car with white lettering. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 


Intermountain NRC reefer

Fran Giacoma
 

Going thru my freight car fleet to weed out those beyond my operating era (October 1956) on my B&O layout. Came across an Intermountain reefer NRC 16621 (Illinois Central on it) with the only dated markings of "CUD 2-60". Is that the build date? Is this scheme (yellow car with green lettering) beyond my era? Thanks.

Fran Giacoma


Re: ATSF freight car red

midrly
 

I have over the years made up 3" x 5" colour cards, with three (captioned by maker/their colour description) swatches of paint on each.  With over a hundred swatches now on hand, I can match existing paint on models when changing out parts like rooves, or commercial paints to prototype photos.

If a paint is discontinued, I also have reference for matching or approximating it with a currently available paint.

I am approaching "fifty shades of" FC Red on those swatches... 

Steve Lucas.


Re: trucks under NYC lot 488H hoppers

brianleppert@att.net
 

Those are Verona trucks, and not T-section.  They've been discussed before on this list.  Search the photos section for "Verona".

The truck under NYC 915419 has the typical spring group for conventional 70-ton trucks when the car was built (circa 1924?).  That was 5 springs per side frame in a 2-1-2 pattern, and that middle spring can be seen in the photo.  By comparison, 40-50 ton trucks had only four springs, grouped close together.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


trucks under NYC lot 488H hoppers

D. Scott Chatfield
 

The photo on page 97 of the New York Central Color Guide Volume Two shows NYC 913703 in 1949 riding on some very strange trucks. They appear to be a T-section Andrews but I don't see the springs. Any idea what these trucks were called?

The caption says the series was 910000-910549, so obviously 913703 is a bit outside of that range. The all-time NYC roster at canadasouthern.com shows the 488H series to be 911000-915999, so I'll believe that. It also says that a few of them ran with NYC reporting marks into 1977, but I doubt they did so with those trucks, even if they were only used in captive service on-line. T-sections were banned in interchange in the early '50s.

The photographer probably took 913703's picture because it was fresh from the paint shop at Avon (stenciled AV 6-49) and yet it still rode on these funky trucks. You'd think they would've retrucked it that close to the outlaw date.

Now on page 96 you can see part of NYC 915419 and it's riding on some sort of cast-sideframe, integral journal box truck (there, I didn't say "bettendorf"), but the signal wires make it hard to say exactly what kind of truck. It looks like it has a flat top rather than an arch. Again, any idea what truck this is? Also, it appears to only have two visible spring groups, when I would expect to see three on a 70-ton truck in those days. Compare to PMcK&Y 53019 on page 100, a Lot 435H (same basic carbody as 488H) which was probably in the same string of cars as 913703.

Scott Chatfield


chemicals in California

ed_mines
 

Left my last employer over 10 years ago but even then chemical based items had to be special labeled for California.


My employer was successfully sued for improper labeling in California by a "public interest group".


Ed Mines


Re: Tichy R-40-2/R-30-13 reefer ends

ed_mines
 

Tim, post its are an excellent idea.


In the past I drew pencil marks on wood, plastic, drafting tape and even white markem.


You would be surprised how sensitive your eyes are to off square or very small differences in measurements.


Ed Mines



Re: ATSF freight car red

Curt Fortenberry
 


I use their thinner with good result.  My dealer gets his TCP from Horizon.  Walthers quit shipping hazmat to our state.

Curt Fortenberry

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