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Re: what kind of trucks on this box car?

Tim O'Connor
 

Andy,

Thanks! I'll take your word for it. The PFE had some Symington-Gould
high speed trucks on their BR-40-10 reefers but they were very different
looking than these. Do you know of any Car Builder Cyc reference to these?

Tim




How about Symington-Gould Type XL pedestal truck?

More than one picture, howabout that!
I thought it strange that you would want I.D. for such a well known and distinctive truck!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] what kind of trucks on this box car?

 

WHAT??? Andy there are numerous photos on that auction -- I'm referring
to the PACEMAKER car photo -- you have to open the auction and choose it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322080985797

Tim O'Connor



They look to me to be standard Barber S2 ride stabilized spring plank-less trucks. NYC was a big user of these trucks. For HO, use the Branchline, now Atlas, Barber S2.

On the 40' Pacemaker box cars, NYC used many Barber S@ stabilized trucks with a spring plank and an outer, solitary single spring. Look on page 90 and 91 of vol. 8 RPC.
-Andy Carlson


what kind of trucks on this box car?

Andy Carlson
 

How about Symington-Gould Type XL pedestal truck?

More than one picture, howabout that!
I thought it strange that you would want I.D. for such a well known and distinctive truck!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] what kind of trucks on this box car?

 

WHAT??? Andy there are numerous photos on that auction -- I'm referring
to the PACEMAKER car photo -- you have to open the auction and choose it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322080985797

Tim O'Connor



They look to me to be standard Barber S2 ride stabilized spring plank-less trucks. NYC was a big user of these trucks. For HO, use the Branchline, now Atlas, Barber S2.

On the 40' Pacemaker box cars, NYC used many Barber S@ stabilized trucks with a spring plank and an outer, solitary single spring. Look on page 90 and 91 of vol. 8 RPC.
-Andy Carlson



Re: what kind of trucks on this box car?

mwbauers
 

I don’t know the specifics.

But it looks like one of the Vulcan trucks I’d admire in the now older Walthers catalogs.

I’m looking forward to the specific answer from someone.

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Apr 29, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


WHAT??? Andy there are numerous photos on that auction -- I'm referring
to the PACEMAKER car photo -- you have to open the auction and choose it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322080985797


Re: 10 hatch covered hopper

Tim O'Connor
 


Western Maryland 5201-5240, and 5301-5340 and the Southern Pacific H-50-10
were 2 bay cement covered hoppers with 10 hatches.

Tim O'Connor


DL&W had several series( 19424- 19724) of 2 bay cement hoppers with 10 hatch covers.
Some were rebuilt open hoppers and some were 1790 cu ft AC&F cars.
LNE had one series of AC&F cars(12101-12565) similarly configured.
Erie had a series (21800-21899) with 10 hatches.

Ken O'Brien


Re: ADMIN: STMFC objectives, rules and culture

Tony Thompson
 

Sorry, Steve, wrong target.

Tony Thompson


On Apr 29, 2016, at 7:34 AM, sccooper@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

What annoys me is the pompous attitude of Mr.Hom,he plainly knows more about freight cars than I ever will,but some of his comments are well off mark.

If he tried this on UK sites he would be banned.
I first came across him when he sent a huge winge to the late lamented 'Mainline Modeller' about 10-15 years ago-I still have the issue but can't remember the date should you need to verify what I say I will dig it out.
Living in the UK this site is very helpful to me for the info it contains but spoilt by comments from Mr Hom-I understand he was once in the military,with an attitude like he has he would'nt have lasted 5 minutes in my regiment.
I am also given to understand he is friends with the 'higher ups' on this site-perhaps that's how he's lasted so long......
Yours
Steve


Re: what kind of trucks on this box car?

Tim O'Connor
 


WHAT??? Andy there are numerous photos on that auction -- I'm referring
to the PACEMAKER car photo -- you have to open the auction and choose it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322080985797

Tim O'Connor



They look to me to be standard Barber S2 ride stabilized spring plank-less trucks. NYC was a big user of these trucks. For HO, use the Branchline, now Atlas, Barber S2.

On the 40' Pacemaker box cars, NYC used many Barber S@ stabilized trucks with a spring plank and an outer, solitary single spring. Look on page 90 and 91 of vol. 8 RPC.
-Andy Carlson


Re: what kind of trucks on this box car?

Andy Carlson
 

They look to me to be standard Barber S2 ride stabilized spring plank-less trucks. NYC was a big user of these trucks. For HO, use the Branchline, now Atlas, Barber S2.

On the 40' Pacemaker box cars, NYC used many Barber S@ stabilized trucks with a spring plank and an outer, solitary single spring. Look on page 90 and 91 of vol. 8 RPC.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
To: stmfc@...
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:45 PM
Subject: [STMFC] what kind of trucks on this box car?

 

Look at the NYC Pacemaker box car in this group of photos -- Anyone
recognize those trucks? Thanks for the help, if you happen to know. :-)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322080985797

Tim O'Connor




what kind of trucks on this box car?

Tim O'Connor
 

Look at the NYC Pacemaker box car in this group of photos -- Anyone
recognize those trucks? Thanks for the help, if you happen to know. :-)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322080985797

Tim O'Connor


Re: Ballast Gondola from WESTERN WHEELED SCRAPER CO.

Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@...>
 

The CB&Q purchased Western Wheeled dump cars in 1915 (202650-202749, MWD-4) and in 1945 (202800-202899 MWD-5) although the company had become Austin-Western by the latter date.

 

There was an article about the company in the BRHS Zephyr #59.

Rupert Gamlen

Auckland NZ

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: 30 April 2016 08:33
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Ballast Gondola from WESTERN WHEELED SCRAPER CO.

 



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With a link to a proposal:

Bob Witt



Red Caboose '37 AAR box car underframes

Andy Carlson
 

Actually, though the story has been told (Many times) before, Intermountain didn't copy the IMWX?Red Caboose '37 car. The error goes back to the O scale Intermountain '37 AAR box cars. It looks to me as the mold maker was going to add 3 stringers per side of the center sill. It was probably brought to his attention that they should only be two stingers, so one of the 3 stringers was ignored. This, however, left the spacing of the the remaining stringers incorrect. Later, when the "Divorce" car's tooling for the IMWX (Later bought by Red Caboose) '37 AAR box car was tooled by the same Intermountain tool maker, the error persisted. Of course, when Intermountain felt that they needed to have their own '37 AAR box car because of the 1000's of paint schemes, they perpetuated the error AGAIN! They went further, in that the bolster height and end execution were below the quality that was done previously, plus the rectangular roof suffered from too wide raised panels. Why? A good question......

My favorite '37 AAR box car is the Red Caboose kit. If, as tim mentions, you want different and later ends, the Intermountain's separate ends are the way to go. I always like to use the Red Caboose roof for a substitution for the Intermountain '37 AAR box cars.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"

 
Hi y'all


.......... The Red Caboose floors (stringers) were incorrect
but the error was faithfully copied by Intermountain. The RC rectangular panel
roof was just about perfect, far better than anyone else's

Tim O'





Ballast Gondola from WESTERN WHEELED SCRAPER CO.

rwitt_2000
 

A new company for me.
WESTERN WHEELED SCRAPER CO. Aurora Illinois

With a link to a proposal:

Bob Witt

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1925 vintage BROCHURE real photo LARG...



Have Sunshine GA-8 kit, would like to trade for GA-6

rhammill
 

Hi - 


I have a Sunshine 10th Anniversary kit of the ATSF GA-8 gondola. I have a photo of a GA-6 on the local freight for my layout, and would love to trade for the GA-6. 


If anybody has one they'd be willing to trade, please email me at nhrr [at] newbritainstation.com


Thanks!


Randy

--

Randy Hammill

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  |  http://newbritainstation.com


Re: Walthers Reefers

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Allen,

Scalecoat used to make a really good stripper. If you can't find that, I've used brake fluid on Walthers/TM cars with good result. Just don't the car soak too long, because brake fluid can melt some plastics. Try one car first as a test.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 4/29/16 11:48 AM, Allen Montgomery sandbear75@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Howdy folks,
I have a bunch of Walthers 40' wood end reefers (billboards)that I want to strip and repaint for PFE Ice Service. 91% alcohol doesn't do the job. Anyone have a suggestion?
Allen


Re: Walthers Reefers

Rhbale@...
 

Brake fluid worked for me on Walters/Train Miniature cars.
 
Richard Bale
Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine
Always free at mrhmag.com
 

In a message dated 4/29/2016 10:38:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Howdy folks,
I have a bunch of Walthers 40' wood end reefers (billboards)that I want to strip and repaint for PFE Ice Service. 91% alcohol doesn't do the job. Anyone have a suggestion?
Allen


Re: Walthers Reefers

Benjamin Hom
 

Allen Montgomery asked:
"I have a bunch of Walthers 40' wood end reefers (billboards)that I want to strip and repaint for PFE Ice Service. 91% alcohol doesn't do the job. Anyone have a suggestion?"

If they're ones done by Walthers with nicer artwork, you're better off selling them and using the proceeds to pick up some Tichy reefers and doing ice service cars from them, especially if you're planning on painting and lettering anyway.

If you're dead set on using these models, the Walthers/ex-Train Miniature plastic is more tolerant of stronger strippers. Brake fluid or oven cleaner should take care of stripping the paint. Follow safety precautions and common sense if using either.


Ben Hom


Re: 10 hatch covered hopper

Jack Mullen
 

Also,  Lehigh Valley had a group in the 501xx series, which appear to have been converted from HT open-top hoppers.  And of course, there are the rather better known PRR H30 and H30a cars.

The responses so far cover several prototypes of different size, appearance, and origin. I suspect the intent of the original question may have been to identify a possible prototype for a 10-hatch model, but providing more information would greatly increase the chance that the group's responses will be useful. As is, it's more like a trivia contest.

Jack "I'll take Steam-Era Freight Cars for $200, Alex" Mullen 



Re: Red Caboose '37 AAR undec box car kits

Tim O'Connor
 

Hi y'all

Don't forget that Red Caboose produced TWO versions of the double door
cars, as well as the single door cars -- in spite of there being only ONE
correct prototype for each.

The S-corner versions weren't particularly well executed -- I'm not a mold
maker so I don't know why. The Red Caboose floors (stringers) were incorrect
but the error was faithfully copied by Intermountain. The RC rectangular panel
roof was just about perfect, far better than anyone else's.

The IM body advantages (both the 10' IH and 10'6" IH) are a huge advantage for
modeling 10 panel cars OTHER than the 1937 and 1940 AAR cars of course.

Tim O'


Andy Carlson wrote

I have many of the last Red Caboose 1937 AAR undecorated box car kits made prior to the purchase of the Red Caboose firm by Intermountain Railway Co earlier this year. These have been unavailable for almost 2 years. There is some doubt that the W-corner kit will ever be re-run in the future, as Intermountain has their own version. Many modelers feel the RC '37 AAR kit is better than the Intermountain car, though the IM car does have one advantage in that the ends are separate. Intermountain does plan on making some double door RC versions.


Re: Info needed

Benjamin Hom
 

Clark Propst wrote:
"First I'm surprised by the attention this, what I'll call an obscure car, got and secondly I'm amazed at your documentation."

These Central Vermont cars seemed to attract a lot of attention from photographers, especially after the cutoff of this list as they stuck out like a sore thumb as they ran into the 1970s.


Ben Hom


Re: Info needed

Bill Welch
 

The fact that these cars were in service for a fairly long time combined with being composite cars probably plays into several photos being available.

Bill Welch


Red Caboose '37 AAR undec box car kits

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-


I have many of the last Red Caboose 1937 AAR undecorated box car kits made prior to the purchase of the Red Caboose firm by Intermountain Railway Co earlier this year. These have been unavailable for almost 2 years. There is some doubt that the W-corner kit will ever be re-run in the future, as Intermountain has their own version. Many modelers feel the RC '37 AAR kit is better than the Intermountain car, though the IM car does have one advantage in that the ends are separate. Intermountain does plan on making some double door RC versions.

The prototype1937 AAR box car debuted with square corner ends. These cars were made from late 1936 until circa 1940 when the w-corner (curved end) was introduced. Red Caboose kit #RC 8001 models this square corner version. No one else has made an injection molded styrene kit of this earlier '37 car.

Red Caboose also made the W-corner version as kit #RC 8002.

RC # 8001 Square-corner undec 40' AAR 1937 box car kit  .............$16/ea
RC # 8002 W-corner undec kit  ..........................................................$16/ea
Shipping by US 1st class mail to US addresses: $3/single car; $4.50/2 cars: $5.50/3 cars; $8/4 cars.  8 kits can be shipped in a Priority Mail box for $14.

I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee, I also accept PayPal.
Please contact off-list for any questions/orders at
Thank you!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
















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