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Re: Battleship Gon Book Orders

water.kresse@...
 

Guys,

I appreciate your offer.  It is not my call anymore.  It needs the C&O or N&W HS folks to get re-interested in doing the layout all over again.  Two of the three of us have moved on to other book projects and would have to restart "kind of all" over again. The fun part for us was finding tons of good information and good photos.  Search gondolas on both the C&O and N&W websites and the Virginia Tech Digital Image N&W collections.

Al Kresse


From: "'Claus Schlund HGM' claus@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 7:41:50 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon Book Orders

 



I will buy one!
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:59 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Battleship Gon Book Orders

Al, do you want us to pledge to buy the book?  I will buy one.

gary laakso
South of Mike Brock



On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:23 PM, water.kresse@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 


We (three members of C&O and N&W Historical Society) had thrown together an approximate 64-page book on the C&O, N&W, and VGN 100-120-ton CLASS 6-wheel trucked gondola cars with Hundman Drawings on originals and rebuilds . . . with tons of picture . . . in a now non-supported early 32-bit version of InDesign that the Adobe Website will not authorize to be moved to a newer version of Windows.  For lack of needed numbers to cover printer's cost of potential purchasers, i.e. only 200 or so, it has not been published.  "Battleship Gons" turns out to be a railfan terminology.  The railroad press did talk about "Battleships" when early all-steel hopper cars came on the scene.  Some yard workers riding the "hump" called them "Holy Rollers" . . . if the manually selective Loaded/Unloaded air brakes were improperly set coming into the yard from the mines.  The Russell Yard had Bibles in rider's waiting room.

THIS PHOTO IS REMARKABLE!  STILL ALIVE AND WORKING IN A YARD AT THIS LATE DATE!

Al  Kresse


From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:19:17 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles

 


Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 

I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 









Re: Chad Boas 40 DD PS1 Re: Santa Fe Bx-26 box car kit

hubert mask
 

Just a note. Mask Island Decals have the decals for three versions of the flat cars, Milwaukee road combo door and the CW&C by Chad Boas.

Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals Inc.




On Jun 21, 2016, at 8:23 AM, O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I really like working with Chad.  He did the Southern 53'-6" flat for us and the C&WC 40 DD boxcar as well.  And a great job with the USRA rebuilds in conjunction with the Shake 'N Take project we were doing from Cocoa a few years ago..  Make sure you share the photos when you finish.
Fenton

--
Fenton Wells
5 Newberry Lane
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
srrfan1401@...


Re: Battleship Gon Book Orders

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


I will buy one!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:59 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Battleship Gon Book Orders

Al, do you want us to pledge to buy the book?  I will buy one.

gary laakso
South of Mike Brock



On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:23 PM, water.kresse@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

We (three members of C&O and N&W Historical Society) had thrown together an approximate 64-page book on the C&O, N&W, and VGN 100-120-ton CLASS 6-wheel trucked gondola cars with Hundman Drawings on originals and rebuilds . . . with tons of picture . . . in a now non-supported early 32-bit version of InDesign that the Adobe Website will not authorize to be moved to a newer version of Windows.  For lack of needed numbers to cover printer's cost of potential purchasers, i.e. only 200 or so, it has not been published.  "Battleship Gons" turns out to be a railfan terminology.  The railroad press did talk about "Battleships" when early all-steel hopper cars came on the scene.  Some yard workers riding the "hump" called them "Holy Rollers" . . . if the manually selective Loaded/Unloaded air brakes were improperly set coming into the yard from the mines.  The Russell Yard had Bibles in rider's waiting room.

THIS PHOTO IS REMARKABLE!  STILL ALIVE AND WORKING IN A YARD AT THIS LATE DATE!

Al  Kresse


From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:19:17 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles

 


Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 

I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 





Re: Battleship Gon After Many Battles -- almost a book

Tony Thompson
 

Al Kresse wrote:

 
For lack of needed numbers to cover printer's cost of potential purchasers, i.e. only 200 or so, it has not been published.  

      Al, something like this is readily made into a printed book. You can make it up as a Xeroxed copy, and print them as needed at your local copy shop; or better yet, go online and seek them out. They offer you templates and guidelines. Blurb is one of them, which I used to make 50th wedding anniversary book of 50 pages, very easy hand quick to do. Don't just think of conventional offset printing.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: Battleship Gon After Many Battles -- almost a book

Brad Andonian
 

Al,

I would have interest [estimated cost?] and would encourage you to reach out to Rich Yoder who made a run of these in O scale.   Rich could likely offer some help in reaching his customers for the models and driving some orders your way.

Thanks,
Brad Andonian


On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:56 PM, "water.kresse@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
We (three members of C&O and N&W Historical Society) had thrown together an approximate 64-page book on the C&O, N&W, and VGN 100-120-ton CLASS 6-wheel trucked gondola cars with Hundman Drawings on originals and rebuilds . . . with tons of picture . . . in a now non-supported early 32-bit version of InDesign that the Adobe Website will not authorize to be moved to a newer version of Windows.  For lack of needed numbers to cover printer's cost of potential purchasers, i.e. only 200 or so, it has not been published.  "Battleship Gons" turns out to be a railfan terminology.  The railroad press did talk about "Battleships" when early all-steel hopper cars came on the scene.  Some yard workers riding the "hump" called them "Holy Rollers" . . . if the manually selective Loaded/Unloaded air brakes were improperly set coming into the yard from the mines.  The Russell Yard had Bibles in rider's waiting room.

THIS PHOTO IS REMARKABLE!  STILL ALIVE AND WORKING IN A YARD AT THIS LATE DATE!

Al  Kresse


From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:19:17 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles

 

Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]"
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 
I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,
 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 
 
 
Photo by John Leopard
 
 
 
 






Battleship Gon Book Orders

gary laakso
 

Al, do you want us to pledge to buy the book?  I will buy one.

gary laakso
South of Mike Brock



On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:23 PM, water.kresse@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

We (three members of C&O and N&W Historical Society) had thrown together an approximate 64-page book on the C&O, N&W, and VGN 100-120-ton CLASS 6-wheel trucked gondola cars with Hundman Drawings on originals and rebuilds . . . with tons of picture . . . in a now non-supported early 32-bit version of InDesign that the Adobe Website will not authorize to be moved to a newer version of Windows.  For lack of needed numbers to cover printer's cost of potential purchasers, i.e. only 200 or so, it has not been published.  "Battleship Gons" turns out to be a railfan terminology.  The railroad press did talk about "Battleships" when early all-steel hopper cars came on the scene.  Some yard workers riding the "hump" called them "Holy Rollers" . . . if the manually selective Loaded/Unloaded air brakes were improperly set coming into the yard from the mines.  The Russell Yard had Bibles in rider's waiting room.

THIS PHOTO IS REMARKABLE!  STILL ALIVE AND WORKING IN A YARD AT THIS LATE DATE!

Al  Kresse


From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:19:17 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles

 


Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 

I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 





Re: FW: DECAL UPDATE - ALL SCALES

midrly
 

My compliments to Donald Tichy for doing this.  There definitely are some former Jerry Glow STMFC sets that I should order.

Steve Lucas


Re: Chad Boas 40 DD PS1 Re: Santa Fe Bx-26 box car kit

gtws00
 

Paul thanks for posting that scan.
George Toman


Re: Chad Boas 40 DD PS1 Re: Santa Fe Bx-26 box car kit

gtws00
 

Bill, the double door kits from Chad for the Milwuakee were built in 1958.
George Toman


Re: Battleship Gon After Many Battles -- almost a book

water.kresse@...
 

We (three members of C&O and N&W Historical Society) had thrown together an approximate 64-page book on the C&O, N&W, and VGN 100-120-ton CLASS 6-wheel trucked gondola cars with Hundman Drawings on originals and rebuilds . . . with tons of picture . . . in a now non-supported early 32-bit version of InDesign that the Adobe Website will not authorize to be moved to a newer version of Windows.  For lack of needed numbers to cover printer's cost of potential purchasers, i.e. only 200 or so, it has not been published.  "Battleship Gons" turns out to be a railfan terminology.  The railroad press did talk about "Battleships" when early all-steel hopper cars came on the scene.  Some yard workers riding the "hump" called them "Holy Rollers" . . . if the manually selective Loaded/Unloaded air brakes were improperly set coming into the yard from the mines.  The Russell Yard had Bibles in rider's waiting room.

THIS PHOTO IS REMARKABLE!  STILL ALIVE AND WORKING IN A YARD AT THIS LATE DATE!

Al  Kresse


From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:19:17 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles

 


Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]"
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 

I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 





FW: DECAL UPDATE - ALL SCALES

Aley, Jeff A
 

From: TICHY TRAIN GROUP INC [mailto:don@tichytraingroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 1:02 PM
To: Aley, Jeff A <jeff.a.aley@intel.com>
Subject: DECAL UPDATE - ALL SCALES





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Re: Battleship Gon After Many Battles

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 


From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC"
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:19:17 PM
Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles

 

Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]"
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I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 



Re: Battleship Gon After Many Battles

Charles Hladik
 

    You might try the N&W archives as they too had these cars. (I think)
Chuck Hladik
 

In a message dated 6/21/2016 3:19:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]"
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 

I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 
On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 


Re: Battleship Gon After Many Battles

vapeurchapelon
 

Those huge Battleship gons are really impressive. Thanks for the photo link to the abused car. And I suppose none of these has been preserved, correct? I have 46 of the old brass NPP models (which I am upgrading, of course) and the matching CB 2-10-10-2 class AE (which also needs upgrades and detail corrections).
The cars need completely new trucks and brake detailing, which I intend to use 3D prints for.
 
Unfortunately I can't find much of these cars online. Does anyone know a good source of pics and other information, either online or printed?
 
Thanks and Regards
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 um 05:31 Uhr
Von: "Mike Bauers mwbauers55@... [STMFC]"
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Battleship Gon After Many Battles
 

I think just a few years later, the place that I work for, P&H Mining Equipment, made regular use of the same class of cars. They certainly were recognizable as the same battleship gons,

 
We would fill it up over several days with metal chips and turning scraps from the machine shop. Then it would travel from the 4300 block of West National Avenue to about 1500 East where the big pig-iron and scrap yard was on Jones Island. That was on the south end of the same general yard used by the B&O RR car ferry dock at the north end of the yards.
 
These cars were used for many years like that. They looked to be in much better condition than the one in the link.
 
And yet….. they would be filled to over-flowing before they were were finally collected and moved to the steel scrap collection site.
 
One day I was sight-seeing on Jones Island on the weekend and I got to see what was the end of one of the loaded cars.
 
It almost made it all the way into the scrap collection company…… Almost …..
 
When I saw it, it was several hundred feet away from that place with the middle of the car bent down and resting on the rails. The car had broken its back with the steel scrap load piled about the middle outside of the car, where it had sort of flowed out of the now ‘V’ shaped and bowed out car sides. 
 
I had a camera with me and took some pictures, not that I know where those are today.
 
It was different to see and considering that I had read somewhere that the battleship gons were built to haul coal, I instantly understood how the repeated loads of much heavier steel chips finally did it in.
 
Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi
 

On Jun 18, 2016, at 9:30 PM, thecitrusbelt wrote:
 
Photo Caption: " Caption: “This car used by Northwestern Steel & Wire to haul scrap around their sprawling mill complex started life on the Virginian Railway. Nicknamed "battleship gons” Virginian had over 2000 of these cars that rode on six-wheeled trucks. This was taken sometime in 1980.“
 

 

 
Photo by John Leopard
 

 

 

 


MILW gondolas in 1930 - need paint and lettering help

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,

I'm making an attempt to model a MILW 50-foot composite gon as shown in the builders photo linked below...

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7411/27206420754_687cdddd5a_h.jpg

You can see my in-progress kitbash attempt here...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7287/27207252153_1a1878590b_h.jpg

If I wrote everything I know about MILW rolling stock down it would fit on the back of a postage stamp. So naturally I have questions on this.

(1) Any suggestions for paint color for the 1930 as-built configuration?

(2) Any suggestions for the CMStP&P lettering - in N scale (a long shot, I know)

Thanks in advance.

Claus Schlund


Re: Source for Brass Structural Shapes for Scratch Building

Jack Burgess
 

I’ve been buying brass shapes from Special Shapes for a couple of years now:



http://www.specialshapes.com/17.html



You can’t order online but just call them…fast service, etc.



Jack Burgess



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:18 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Source for Brass Structural Shapes for Scratch Building








Does anyone have a source for brass structural shapes other than K&S or MicroMark? K&S seems to be reducing the range of shapes and sizes available in the past few years and the range from MicroMark is limited.



Thanks.



Bill Botkin

Centennial, CO










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Re: Source for Brass Structural Shapes for Scratch Building

Charles Hladik
 

Bill,
 
    I've had good luck at my local (rather large) True Value Hardware store. No discount but what I need.
 
Chuck Hladik
Rutland Railroad
Virginia Division
 
Rustburg, Virginia, just outside of Lynchburg where the store is
 

In a message dated 6/21/2016 11:17:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Does anyone have a source for brass structural shapes other than K&S or MicroMark?  K&S seems to be reducing the range of shapes and sizes available in the past few years and the range from MicroMark is limited.


Thanks.


Bill Botkin

Centennial, CO


Source for Brass Structural Shapes for Scratch Building

webotkin
 

Does anyone have a source for brass structural shapes other than K&S or MicroMark?  K&S seems to be reducing the range of shapes and sizes available in the past few years and the range from MicroMark is limited.


Thanks.


Bill Botkin

Centennial, CO


Re: An Easy kit-bash using the Accurail 8-panel SS car

Marty McGuirk
 

The Accurail model makes a decent stand-in for the Central Vermont 43000-43058 (single-door rebuilds of the original 42000 series double-door cars). Biggest difference between the Accurail model and the prototype is the panel to the left of the door - on the prototype cars it was slightly wider than the other panels. On the Accurail model the panels are all the same width.

Accurail offers the car painted for the CV if I recall correctly.


Marty McGuirk



MILW 29000 general arrangement drawing Re: Chad Boas 40 DD PS1 Re: Santa Fe Bx-26 box car kit

Paul Krueger
 

Here is the general arrangement drawing for the MILW 29000-29499 series cars that can be modeled with Chad's kit.  I believe these were built in 1959.   The drawing is from the Cascade Rail Foundation Dave Nicholas Collection.  The original mylar was split down the middle lengthwise and had been taped back together, so the quality of the scan is a bit compromised but still very useful.


Paul

Paul Krueger
Secretary
Cascade Rail Foundation
"Remembering the Milwaukee Road in Washington"
www.milwelectric.org

49441 - 49460 of 192633