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Re: HO Kits for sale update

Douglas Harding
 

Opps this was intended to be private to Brian, sorry about the interruption.

 

 

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Brian, sorry I have not gotten back to you. As I do have the HS cars (haven’t found the right box to verify) and because you had such a tremendous response I am going to release my hold on the two cars if you have another interested party.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Dave Parker
 

I don't have any problem extracting and saving individual articles (or even parts of articles) in MRH, with these caveats:

1.  I am still using Windows 8

2.  I always use the "Web Downloader" (the green button), and save the "standard" (not the embedded) PDF version to my hard drive.  Not to say it would not work with other download options, only that I have not tried them.

3.  Being a cheapskate, I refuse to pay Adobe for a program as rudimentary as Acrobat (even if it did work).  There are several free utilities that do most/many of the same things.  I use PDFill FREE PDF Tools, v. 12.0.  Works like a charm.

I then have the article saved as a stand-alone PDF, which I can later print if I feel the need.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:37 PM, "Jeff Shultz jeff@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Jack, 

 I'm not sure if this is the password you want, but in on the Staff Credits (page 2 or 3 depending on version) page, at the bottom is has the "Issue password." It's been a combination of the month and year every time I have noticed it. 


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:07 PM, 'Jack Burgess' jack@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
Sure...open the article in a pdf reader and note the start page and finish page numbers for the article in the pdf reader software. Then go to File/Print and under "Pages to Print", click on "Pages" and type in the pages you want printed...for that article it is pages 110-118. Then click on Print.

Unfortunately, I'd rather have the single article digitally saved. I tried the above technique but selected my "Adobe Printer" but passwords in the magazine prevent doing that.
Even if you have a full-blown Adobe Acrobat 9, you can't Extract or Delete pages either.

Jack

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Subject: [STMFC] MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Hi all,

First - thanks Jeff for providing the link to Richard Bale's article on hand brakes.

Question - is there no way to download/print one of the -articles- from MRH?
This particular article is an excellent example ... where I -need- the article in front of me is "at the work bench". There is just too much detailed info in this article for me to remember it all ... yes, I've read the article ...
yes, I know
how to get back to it (bookmarked!) ... but the next time I'm trying to select - and install - a brake wheel assembly I'm gonna be going from the work bench to the computer over and over again.
- Jim B.

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Re: Smaller Files

Jack Burgess
 

As I recall from one of Al’s resin kits, it is better to get rid of the flash by sanding the “inside” of the casting on a piece of fine emory paper lying on a flat surface. That way, the boards don’t get “narrower”.



Jack Burgess



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Do any of the powered toothbrushes have a reciprocating action? I'm thinking most are rotary but perhaps

there is an exception. Then make an adapter for the file shank. Ought to ease getting the flash out from

between stockcar slats. (required freightcar content to appease the sheriff).

Chuck Peck





On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:09 PM, milepost206@mchsi.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Rio Grande has 4" files and I have sourced many unusual tools from them, excellent suppplier
https://www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=micro+files

made for reciprocating handpiece but are short length diamond files
http://www.moldshoptools.com/catalog/list.php?category_id=152

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Re: Adventures in Finding Small Files—an update

Charles Peck
 

Bill, perhaps watchmakers use the terms differently but as a machinist, reamers and broaches work differently.
Both modify the size or shape of a hole but a reamer cuts with a rotary action. A broach is pushed or pulled
through a hole cutting in a linear fashion. 
At least this is true of all that I have used.  I now expect someone to come up with the exception.
Chuck Peck 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 4:15 PM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
​ 

As a bonus I have also seen some really small reamers or broaches using the term watchmakers use.


Bill Welch



Re: Adventures in Finding Small Files—an update

Jack Burgess
 

All…



I’ve purchased files from both McMaster-Carr and Otto Frei. I was easily able to look up my purchases at McMaster-Carr. I was also able to look up my past purchases at Otto Frei but they have changed the product numbers. I emailed them this morning asking for a cross reference but no one has gotten back to me yet.



Here is the email I started this morning:



I bought my everyday files from McMaster-Carr. (http://www.mcmaster.com/# ). Search for 4261A57 and you'll be looking at Swiss-made files made by Nicholson. In addition to the No. 0 file, I bought a No. 2 and a No. 4 which is the finest. I don't use the No. 2 that often. The No. 4 will give a smooth surface for working with styrene or resin but the No. 0 will cut faster. I also bought a round and half-round file from that same page of files, both No. 0 files. I haven’t used these files that much but remember that I like to buy tool.



I've also bought some Glardon-Vallorbe Swiss Escapement Files from Otto Frei (http://www.ottofrei.com/ ). These are really nice files but not as small as Bill wants. Search for



131.720 for the Equalling file 2 Medium

131.766 for the Three-Square file 2 Medium

131.715 for the Crossing File 4 Fine

131.746 for the Round file 6 Extra Fine



These product numbers are no longer valid but you might be able to find individual files with these specifications. Size-wise, the Equalling file (rectangle) is 5-1/2” long and the “file” portion of the file is 2” long. The blade is 3/16” wide and .3” thick.



Of these, I use the Equalling file (rectangle) and Round one the most.



Jack Burgess





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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:15 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Adventures in Finding Small Files—an update








Just an update, based on suggestions from a couple of you I did go to the Otto Frei website. They actually had measurements of the actual file "blade" (What should I call this, showing my ignorance?) and what I saw seemed to be about the same size of those I already have. I kept going and found something called an "escapement" file and kept going using this term. I have contacted a couple of suppliers requesting measurements and will report on the results.



As a bonus I have also seen some really small reamers or broaches using the term watchmakers use.



Bill Welch


Re: Smaller Files

Charles Peck
 

Do any of the powered toothbrushes have a reciprocating action?  I'm thinking most are rotary but perhaps
there is an exception.  Then make an adapter for the file shank.  Ought to ease getting the flash out from 
between stockcar slats. (required freightcar content to appease the sheriff).
Chuck Peck


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:09 PM, milepost206@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Rio Grande has 4" files and I have sourced many unusual tools from them, excellent suppplier
https://www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=micro+files

made for reciprocating handpiece but are short length diamond files
http://www.moldshoptools.com/catalog/list.php?category_id=152

Randy Danniel



Re: Anyone know the railroad that owns the flat car? Is it CT&SE?

John Degnan <Scaler164@...>
 

Now that I look at it again, it looks more like CM...E than the CW I suggested this morning.


John Degnan



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Subject: [STMFC] Re: Anyone know the railroad that owns the flat car? Is it CT&SE?

Odds are you are correct.
If you zoom in and look where they are standing on the right, you can
see reporting marks.  It appears to be CT....E
A check of the 1919 ORER show the CT&SE has a 40' flat series that this
car number matches.

Howard Garner

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Re: MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Jeff Shultz <jeff@...>
 

Jack, 

 I'm not sure if this is the password you want, but in on the Staff Credits (page 2 or 3 depending on version) page, at the bottom is has the "Issue password." It's been a combination of the month and year every time I have noticed it. 


On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:07 PM, 'Jack Burgess' jack@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Sure...open the article in a pdf reader and note the start page and finish page numbers for the article in the pdf reader software. Then go to File/Print and under "Pages to Print", click on "Pages" and type in the pages you want printed...for that article it is pages 110-118. Then click on Print.

Unfortunately, I'd rather have the single article digitally saved. I tried the above technique but selected my "Adobe Printer" but passwords in the magazine prevent doing that.
Even if you have a full-blown Adobe Acrobat 9, you can't Extract or Delete pages either.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Hi all,

First - thanks Jeff for providing the link to Richard Bale's article on hand brakes.

Question - is there no way to download/print one of the -articles- from MRH?
This particular article is an excellent example ... where I -need- the article in front of me is "at the work bench". There is just too much detailed info in this article for me to remember it all ... yes, I've read the article ...
yes, I know
how to get back to it (bookmarked!) ... but the next time I'm trying to select - and install - a brake wheel assembly I'm gonna be going from the work bench to the computer over and over again.
- Jim B.

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Adventures in Finding Small Files—an update

Bill Welch
 

Just an update, based on suggestions from a couple of you I did go to the Otto Frei website. They actually had measurements of the actual file "blade" (What should I call this, showing my ignorance?) and what I saw seemed to be about the same size of those I already have. I kept going and found something called an "escapement" file and kept going using this term. I have contacted a couple of suppliers requesting measurements and will report on the results.


As a bonus I have also seen some really small reamers or broaches using the term watchmakers use.


Bill Welch


Re: MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

SUVCWORR@...
 

If you are using Microsoft Windows 10  select the print icon (upper right) when the print page appears select pages  enter the number of the pages you want to copy.  Change from printer to microsoft print to pdf.  hit print locate the file where you and it and the name of the file.  Ok  you now have a pdf of only the pages you want.

Rich Orr

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Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2016 3:21 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)



Why not take screen grab photos of each page?

Bill Welch



Re: MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Douglas Harding
 

I was able to save the Hand Brake article as a pdf. I opened the issue in question, selected print, put in just the pages I wanted, 110-118, then selected the Microsoft Print to PDF printer option in my list of printers. It created a nice 9 page 4.6mb size pdf of just the article on Hand Brakes.

 

Usually I use Photoshop Elements to open pdf’s for editing, but this magazine is a secured pdf and I don’t have the password to open it.

 

 

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To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

 

 

Sure...open the article in a pdf reader and note the start page and finish page numbers for the article in the pdf reader software. Then go to File/Print and under "Pages to Print", click on "Pages" and type in the pages you want printed...for that article it is pages 110-118. Then click on Print.

Unfortunately, I'd rather have the single article digitally saved. I tried the above technique but selected my "Adobe Printer" but passwords in the magazine prevent doing that.
Even if you have a full-blown Adobe Acrobat 9, you can't Extract or Delete pages either.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:46 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Hi all,

First - thanks Jeff for providing the link to Richard Bale's article on hand brakes.

Question - is there no way to download/print one of the -articles- from MRH?
This particular article is an excellent example ... where I -need- the article in front of me is "at the work bench". There is just too much detailed info in this article for me to remember it all ... yes, I've read the article ...
yes, I know
how to get back to it (bookmarked!) ... but the next time I'm trying to select - and install - a brake wheel assembly I'm gonna be going from the work bench to the computer over and over again.
- Jim B.

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Re: MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Bill Welch
 

Why not take screen grab photos of each page?

Bill Welch


Re: MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Jack Burgess
 

Sure...open the article in a pdf reader and note the start page and finish page numbers for the article in the pdf reader software. Then go to File/Print and under "Pages to Print", click on "Pages" and type in the pages you want printed...for that article it is pages 110-118. Then click on Print.

Unfortunately, I'd rather have the single article digitally saved. I tried the above technique but selected my "Adobe Printer" but passwords in the magazine prevent doing that.
Even if you have a full-blown Adobe Acrobat 9, you can't Extract or Delete pages either.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:46 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] MRH as a Reference - No Downloads of Articles? (was Re: Hand brake nomenclature)

Hi all,

First - thanks Jeff for providing the link to Richard Bale's article on hand brakes.

Question - is there no way to download/print one of the -articles- from MRH?
This particular article is an excellent example ... where I -need- the article in front of me is "at the work bench". There is just too much detailed info in this article for me to remember it all ... yes, I've read the article ...
yes, I know
how to get back to it (bookmarked!) ... but the next time I'm trying to select - and install - a brake wheel assembly I'm gonna be going from the work bench to the computer over and over again.
- Jim B.


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Re: Smaller Files

qmp211
 

Rio Grande has 4" files and I have sourced many unusual tools from them, excellent suppplier
https://www.riogrande.com/search/go?w=micro+files

made for reciprocating handpiece but are short length diamond files
http://www.moldshoptools.com/catalog/list.php?category_id=152

Randy Danniel


Re: Smaller Files

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <mark_landgraf@...> wrote :

Gesswein caters to the jewelry manufacturer. Their pricing reflect that. However they are the only folks that I know of that have a reciprocating hand piece for filing.

======================

And mold polishing. The problem with reciprocating hand pieces, at least as far as mold polishing goes, is it needs a very short and precisely limited stroke. Mine strokes .012", IIRC. and was around $500. Adjustable stroke tools are made, and are more money. Then there's the ultrasound tools, micro stroke, macro bucks $$$.

But the diamond files work just fine by hand. Whsh I could remember where I bought the handles.

Dennis Storzek
 


Re: GATC Tank Car Advice

Tom Madden
 

Could Garth's tank be a Globe? They made one- and two-dome tank car kits back in the day. This should be right up Denny's alley.


Tom Madden


Re: GATC Tank Car Advice

Tony Thompson
 

Garth Groff wrote:

Tony,

The domes that came on my Thomas cars are not the same those used on the wine cars. They are a bit hard to measure without calipers, but in scale they are about 42" in diameter, with a height of about 18" as measured from the centerline of the car. They have a single L-shaped safety valve protruding from the side along the centerline. I have no idea of the capacity of such a dome, but I think you would agree this is inappropriate for an 8 or 10K single-compartment car, and why I replaced same. Yesterday I looked for Thomas Industries tank cars online, and after sorting out all the "Thomas the Tank Engine" stuff, did not see a single example with these domes. Perhaps my car came from an early production run (or a later one if Thomas got sloppy!).


      I too have a metal tank car with those exact domes (a three-compartment car), but don't know the origin of the car. I think it is NOT an Athearn, but don't know who. I too have searched the various Thomas stuff on line, along with the catalog sheets that came in the car kits, and none of their cars had that dome. I might suggest that your tank car is actually NOT a Thomas car.

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Re: Hand brake nomenclature

Dennis Storzek
 




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Before someone else exposes my faux pas I'll reveal it myself.  The clinic synopsis mentioned in a previous post included a table of hand brakes available at that time, mostly HO scale, from some of the model manufacturers.  The final word in the last note at the bottom of the page is "housings" referring to what I now insist should be called "hand brake."  I am so embarrassed.
================

I don't see the problem... after all, when you the buy the HO version, you don't get 1:87.1 size copies of all the gears, pawls, chain sheave, etc., you only get a model of the housing.

Dennis Storzek


Re: HO Kits for sale update

Douglas Harding
 

Brian, sorry I have not gotten back to you. As I do have the HS cars (haven’t found the right box to verify) and because you had such a tremendous response I am going to release my hold on the two cars if you have another interested party.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Smaller Files

mark_landgraf
 

Gesswein caters to the jewelry manufacturer. Their pricing reflect that. However they are the only folks that I know of that have a reciprocating hand piece for filing. 

MSC company has sucked up many industrial supply houses over the year. J&L and Enco come to mind. This makes the one on the largest. Their catalog is 3 inches thick and is printed on very thin paper. Check their Web site for swiss needle files. 
mscdirect.com

Swiss needle files range from zero (course) to #4 (very fine) to #6 (extremely fine). They are also available in sizes up to at least 8 inches. They are expensive. Manufacturers include, Grobet, & Nicholson,
MSC is very easy to deal with. With a handful of warehouses, normal shipping is 1 to 2 days‎.  

Mark


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To: STMFC@...
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Dennis (and all),

These Gesswein files say they are for a reciprocating tool!

Is there a "modeler's sized" tool of this type? Is it something
along the lines of a
Dremel tool in terms of size that accepts these files (and other
inserts?). (The
only one I found on the Gesswein site STARTED at almost $1000 dollars. I'm
not likely to buy that one.)

Just this week I was modifying the pilot of a brass loco - using a file -
and was thinking to myself "wouldn't it be nice if I have a power tool
for this?".
- Jim B.


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