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DL&W yard and distant freight cars - 1911

Schuyler Larrabee
 

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-07-16/B0798.jpg et seq.

 

This image plus the few after this one show a LARGE number of steam era freight cars in 1911, way before the transition era, but still very interesting.  Since these are glass plate negatives, the resolution is quite sharp even when zoomed way in.

 

Check out the loads in both the open topped cars and the hoppers.  Not all coal is the same, even in two cars coupled together.  All the coal you see, though, is most likely Anthracite, just in different sizes.

 

Enjoy!

 

Schuyler

 


What Are These Folks Doing?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This is a link to a photo from the Kansas State Historical Society:

 

http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/218115/page/1

 

It shows workmen engaged in some activity along a string of boxcars and racks of lumber spaced out along the cars. The caption notes that this is conditioning yard at Clovis, New Mexico.

 

My initial thoughts are that the cars are being prepared for grain doors or that car interiors are being refurbished. The lack of used, broken boards on the ground probably weights against refurbishing.

 

Can anyone make an educated guess as to what actually is the activity?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Circles in Plastic Castings

Schuyler Larrabee
 

They are caused by ejector pins. Moldings don’t automatically eject from the dies and have to be pushed out. I agree they can be a pain, especially in older dies where you can find flash standing normal to the surface, which has to be shaved off.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
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To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Circles in Plastic Castings





Just a question here. Nothing we can do about it except fill them in but, why are there small circular holes or impressions in various plastic castings? They can't be for material-flow in the casting process ???



As example, I have several Proto 2000 War Emerg. hoppers (and other kits) with these holes in the interior slope sheets, etc. Will have to file/fill them in. Just curious. What are they really for? Would be nice if they weren't there.



Thanks, Paul Hillman





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Re: Circles in Plastic Castings

Richard Brennan
 

At 09:43 AM 8/7/2016, chris_hillman@... [STMFC] wrote:
Just a question here. Nothing we can do about it except fill them in but, why are there small circular holes or impressions in various plastic castings? They can't be for material-flow in the casting process ???
Ejector pins...
without them... it would be extremely difficult to get the warm injected part out of a complex mold.

Description at: https://www.protolabs.com/resources/injection-molding-design-tips/united-states/2010-06/


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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Circles in Plastic Castings

Paul Hillman
 

Just a question here. Nothing we can do about it except fill them in but, why are there small circular holes or impressions in various plastic castings? They can't be for material-flow in the casting process ???


As example, I have several Proto 2000 War Emerg. hoppers (and other kits) with these holes in the interior slope sheets, etc. Will have to file/fill them in. Just curious. What are they really for? Would be nice if they weren't there.


Thanks, Paul Hillman


Oiling ballast

Rupert & Maureen <gamlenz@...>
 

Re. the recent discussion about oiling ballast, there is a brief history at
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101048999310;view=1up;seq=95 and a list of railroads using oil at https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101048999351;view=1up;seq=270

Both the CB&Q and B&MR sprayed ballast with oil to keep down dust. There is a photo (not the clearest) of track spraying using a tank car apparently owned by the CB&Q. I was previously advised that this was a Bettendorf tank car, although I’ve not seen any record that the Burlington had any from this company.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015010881806;view=1up;seq=551

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 


FW: More New Tichy Train Group Decals (all scales)

Aley, Jeff A
 

FYI.

From: TICHY TRAIN GROUP INC [mailto:don@...]
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To: Aley, Jeff A <jeff.a.aley@...>
Subject: More New Tichy Train Group Decals (all scales)





TICHY TRAIN GROUP INC
8/6/2016



Dear Modeler:

Here are the new decals. All decals are available in all scales and in 6 packs. Numbers below are HO, add N for N scale, S for S scale and O for O scale. Other scales, send an email request. Single decals are: HO $4, N $4, S $5, O $6. All are in stock.

10013 WESTERN ASPHALT 10000 GAL TANK
10020 CDLX 10000 GAL TANK
10031 L&N USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10032 NYC USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10033 ERIE USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10034 VIRGINIAN USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10035 P&LE USRA REBUILT BOXCAR 9kit 4028)
10036 PMK&Y USRA 46' GONDOLA
10037 NYC USRA 46' GONDOLA
10038 NYC 42' DROP BOTTOM GONDOLA
10039 CDLX 8000 GAL ASPHALT TANK
10040 TA&G 50' DOUBLE DOOR BOXCAR
10041 TA&G 40' SINGLE DOOR BOXCAR
10042 HEYDEN CHEMICAL 8000 GAL FORMALDEHYDE TANK
10043 SUNRAY 10000 GAL LPG TANK
10044 WARREN 8000 GAL GASOLINE TANK
10045 ANCHOR 10000 GAL LPG TANK
10046 ASSOCIATED 8000 GAL TANK
10047 GAS-OIL PRODUCTS 8000 GAL LPG TANK
10048 NATIONAL OIL 8000 GAL TANK
10049 PENNSYLVANIA SALT 8000 GAL CAUSTIC SODA TANK
10050 DOW CHEMICAL 10000 GAL TANK
10051 COLUMBIAN GASOLINE 8000 GAL TANK
10052 SP RR TANK CARS BLACK LETTERING
10053 SP RR TANK CARS WHITE LETTERING
10054 DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR NO LOGO
10055 DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10056 DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10057 DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10058 DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR NO LOGO
10059 DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10060 WEST INDIA FRUIT & STEAMSHIP CO 40' BOXCAR
10061 GEORGIA RR 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10062 WESTERN RY OF ALABAMA 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10063 ATLANTA & WEST POINT RR 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10064 WESTERN RY OF ALABAMA 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10065 ATLANTA & WEST POINT RR 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10066 ARMOUR 40' STEEL REFRIGERATOR

HERE ARE LINKS BY SCALE, THEN CLICK ROAD NAME OR CAR TYPE.

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Select the ROAD NAME or CAR TYPE you want.
Under HO decals, you can also search by our KIT NUMBER.

All of the new decals (10000 series) are listed under this system. We will convert the older ones over the next several weeks. In the meantime, they are still listed under just the decal tab.


Thank you for your continued support.

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Re: FLAT CAR HAND BRAKE QUESTION

Rich Yoder
 

I have progressive view photos of a Reading gondola with drop vertical brake
shaft if interested contact me off the list.
Rich Y

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 3:34 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] FLAT CAR HAND BRAKE QUESTION


Does anyone have any information on the mechanics of the drop shaft
handbrakes used on flat cars?
MY 1943 Car Builders Cyclopedia shows the front portion of his devise but I
am curious as to how the chain couples to this. Is ther a second geared
shaft behind the main shaft that is geared and wraps up the chain? The
front photos do not sem to leave much room for wrapping the chain on th
shaft.

As usual thanks in advance for any help.

b
Bill Pardie

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Yahoo Groups Links


1920s lettering

Eric Hansmann
 

A few HO scale box cars were recently lettered for service on the Wheeling Freight Terminal. Most of the models illustrate the different lettering guidelines of the 1920s. Check out the details on the DesignBuildOp blog.

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2016/08/06/decals-and-lettering/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


Re: Stars On Boxcar Door?

Charles Hladik
 

All,
 
    It also looks like there are "braces" along the side.
 
Chuck Hladik
 

In a message dated 8/6/2016 1:07:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

Tim,

I think if you look at the far right, you can discern sheathing boards. Also, the stencil on the door that is cut off on the upper edge of the photo looks to be "T&P" making it a T&P auto car, I believe built by Pressed Steel in 1929.

Cheers,
Ted Culotta


For that special breed of modeler who enjoys tank car underframes

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 

Hi List Members,

For that special breed of modeler who enjoys tank car underframes...

http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/getimage-idx?cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-000411.pic;viewid=000411PIC.TIF;x=10;y=14;width=9999;height=9600;res=0;view=image

Imgae is dated 1951

Claus Schlund


Re: Weathered box cars

Eric Hansmann
 

Chuck,

 

I use paper stock for the route cards and placards on the models. Plain newsprint is cut into narrow strips about four inches wide. Small squares are cut from the strip and these are carefully placed on a small dot of canopy glue that has been applied to the model with a toothpick. I also use Post-it note material that is a buff or yellow shade.

 

For the partial cards, place a single edge razor blade at an angle over a short section. Place the blade flat on the cutting surface and pull the narrow paper strip up to tear the paper and leave a partial piece under the blade. I’ve noticed a variety of partial cards spread across wood sheathed cars. I model 1926 and much of the box car fleet will be wood sheathed, so there will be many partial cards on my models.

 

These details were inspired by Tony Thompson’s great blog posts on these details. After reading his latest few posts, I feel I should mark some with numbers or letters before cutting them from the paper strips. Here’s his latest piece on the route cards.

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2016/07/route-cards-part-13-other-examples.html

 

These are very easy details to add to models. As Tony points out in a few of his posts, steel cars had a specific route card holder along the sill so the cards would be restricted to those placement spots.

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 2:43 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Weathered box cars

 




Great job Eric.  Could you explain what you use for route tags?  Do you just make them yourself?  Thanks

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM




Re: NKP 22000-22349 series boxcars

pennsylvania1954
 

As Tim suggested, I went to the RMJ issues he cited. Although I have the issues on the shelf, in the midst of lunch, I elected to go online to

https://www.trainlife.com/ .

What a surprise! The good guys at Exactrail have been busy, taking over ownership of the site, creating online and brick and mortar stores and maintaining the magazine database. They have lots of plans. I recommend y'all check it out.

Oh, yeah. The photos of the subject cars don't show much.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Tichy (former Jerry Glow) NEW DECALS

Andy Carlson
 

STMFC'ers-


I am offering any of these decals, which are mentioned as all being in stock, to list members.
Take 20% off of list. Modest shipping charges will be assessed.
I accept checks and money orders. for a small fee I also accept PayPal. Please contact me off-list, if interested.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
TICHY TRAIN GROUP INC
8/6/2016
Dear Retailer:

Here are the new decals. All decals are available in all scales and in 6 packs. Numbers below are HO, add N for N scale, S for S scale and O for O scale. Single decals are: HO $4, N $4, S $5, O $6. Six pack decals are: HO $20, N $20, S $25, O $30. All are in stock.

10001     EJ&E 53' GSC FLATCAR
10002     PRR H-30 HOPPER RED CAR
10003     PRR H-30 HOPPER GRAY CAR ROMAN
10004     PRR H-30 HOPPER GRAY CAR GOTHIC
10005     PRR H-30 HOPPER GRAY CAR INITIALS ONLY
10006     PRR X-26C BOXCAR
10007     GN 43' FLATCAR 69500 SERIES
10008     GN 50' FLATCAR 67000 SERIES
10009     GN 53' FLATCAR 65000 SERIES
10010     GN 52' FLATCAR 66000 SERIES
10011     PRR X-29 BOXCAR
10012     PRR X-31F BOXCAR
10013     WESTERN ASPHALT 10000 GAL TANK
10014     BARRETT TANK CAR
10015     PRR H33 COVERED HOPPER
10016     PRR H-34C COVERED HOPPER
10017     PRR H-31B HOPPER
10018     DSDX (MILW) RIB SIDE REEFER
10019     URTX (MILW) RIB SIDE REEFER
10020     CDLX 10000 GAL TANK
10021     MILW RIB SIDE HIAWATHA BOXCAR
10022     PRR H-32 COVERED HOPPER RED CAR
10023     PRR H-32 COVERED HOPPER GRAY CAR
10024     PRR H-32 COVERED HOPPER SHADOW LOGO
10025     PRR GLD USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10026     B&O N17 USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10027     WABASH USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10028     SCL STUMP CAR (KIT 4043)
10029     MP USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10030     SL-SF USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10031     L&N USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10032     NYC USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10033     ERIE USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10034     VIRGINIAN USRA HOPPER (KITS 4027 & 4029)
10035     P&LE USRA REBUILT BOXCAR 9kit 4028)
10036     PMK&Y USRA 46' GONDOLA
10037     NYC USRA 46' GONDOLA
10038     NYC 42' DROP BOTTOM GONDOLA
10039     CDLX 8000 GAL ASPHALT TANK
10040     TA&G 50' DOUBLE DOOR BOXCAR
10041     TA&G 40' SINGLE DOOR BOXCAR
10042     HEYDEN CHEMICAL 8000 GAL FORMALDEHYDE TANK
10043     SUNRAY 10000 GAL LPG TANK
10044     WARREN 8000 GAL GASOLINE TANK
10045     ANCHOR 10000 GAL LPG TANK
10046     ASSOCIATED 8000 GAL TANK
10047     GAS-OIL PRODUCTS 8000 GAL LPG TANK
10048     NATIONAL OIL 8000 GAL TANK
10049     PENNSYLVANIA SALT 8000 GAL CAUSTIC SODA TANK
10050     DOW CHEMICAL 10000 GAL TANK
10051     COLUMBIAN GASOLINE 8000 GAL TANK
10052     SP RR TANK CARS BLACK LETTERING
10053     SP RR TANK CARS WHITE LETTERING
10054     DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR NO LOGO
10055     DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10056     DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10057     DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10058     DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR NO LOGO
10059     DL&W 40' STEEL BOXCAR PHOEBE SNOW
10060     WEST INDIA FRUIT & STEAMSHIP CO 40' BOXCAR
10061     GEORGIA RR 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10062     WESTERN RY OF ALABAMA 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10063     ATLANTA & WEST POINT RR 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10064     WESTERN RY OF ALABAMA 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10065     ATLANTA & WEST POINT RR 40' STEEL BOXCAR
10066     ARMOUR 40' STEEL REFRIGERATOR
 
All decals are in stock.
 

  







Re: NKP 22000-22349 series boxcars

Kenneth Schanz
 

Per the NKPHTS Company Store the Summer 2005 issue of their magazine has an article titled ... By Any Other Name by Peter K. Shepherd; on the 22000's.  Includes 10/23/29 builders photos of 22249 and an additional view of 22341.

Ken Schanz



On Saturday, August 6, 2016 1:59 PM, "Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
>>Double-sheathed rebuilds with a fairly deep inset sill. Z-bar callout was for the roof eave. Sunshine did the 10'6" rebuilds: >>http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun64b.pdf
>>David Thompson


Nope: 22000-22349, and 22350-22499 (with end doors). All-steel boxcars built by Standard Steel in 1929. These were the first all-steel freight cars bought new by the NKP, and are vaguely similar to 1932 ARA boxcars.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
_





Re: NKP 22000-22349 series boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 


Photo references: Railmodel Journal 7/1989 p.9, 6/1993 pp.12-16

Tim O'Connor


Nope: 22000-22349, and 22350-22499 (with end doors). All-steel boxcars built by Standard Steel in 1929. These were the first all-steel freight cars bought new by the NKP, and are vaguely similar to 1932 ARA boxcars.
http://thecourier.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834ca83d669e2019b001fdfa4970c-pi

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


Re: NKP 22000-22349 series boxcars

Ray Breyer
 

>>Double-sheathed rebuilds with a fairly deep inset sill. Z-bar callout was for the roof eave. Sunshine did the 10'6" rebuilds: >>http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun64b.pdf
>>David Thompson


Nope: 22000-22349, and 22350-22499 (with end doors). All-steel boxcars built by Standard Steel in 1929. These were the first all-steel freight cars bought new by the NKP, and are vaguely similar to 1932 ARA boxcars.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL
_



Here is an interesting flat car load, dated 1918

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Re: Stars On Boxcar Door?

Ted Culotta
 

Tim,

I think if you look at the far right, you can discern sheathing boards. Also, the stencil on the door that is cut off on the upper edge of the photo looks to be "T&P" making it a T&P auto car, I believe built by Pressed Steel in 1929.

Cheers,
Ted Culotta


Re: NKP 22000-22349 series boxcars

David
 

Double-sheathed rebuilds with a fairly deep inset sill. Z-bar callout was for the roof eave. Sunshine did the 10'6" rebuilds: http://www.sunshinekits.com/sunimages/sun64b.pdf

David Thompson

49581 - 49600 of 193583