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Re: Laramie, WY test

Tom Madden
 

Um, I'm in Rawlings right now and came over Sherman Hill two hours ago. Is that close enough?

Tom Madden


Re: PFE R-40-14 & 20

Fred Jansz
 

For all interested: the brake wheel & housing of the PFE R-40-14's on page 169 of the PFE bible is Klasing model 646. Thank you very much for your help Richard Bale!
cheers Fred Jansz


Laramie, WY test

Mikebrock
 

Test


Re: Wegmann kits

gary laakso
 

I bought some Santa Fe reefers from a Long’s Drug Store company in southern California that used to advertise very heavily in Model Railroader.
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
 

Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Wegmann kits
 
 

Craftsman model railroad kits sold at a grocery store....?
 
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
 
----- Reply message -----
From: "'Hunter, James R.' jhunter@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Subject: [STMFC] Wegmann kits
Date: Tue, Sep 6, 2016 1:48 PM

 

Andy,

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me.  You see, out here, in PA, NJ or NY, Wegman's is a well-known grocery chain.

 

Jim


From: STMFC@... on behalf of Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:00 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Wegmann kits
 
 
Spelled with 2 'n's...

Terry Wegmann, a Southern California RR fan, was a tool maker. Of his many ventures, the flat kit of the PFE wood reefer classes of R-40(30)-18; -19; -21 has had the best sales. These were wooden carbody reefers, which after rebuilding, had steel ends and roofs. Terry sold 1000s of cast styrene components multiple times to Intermountain, who then sent them for assembly and painting to China. Intermountain never offered them as kits. Terry sold 100s of ! kits privately and through me. These kits were offered to STMFC readers over the last decade or so at various times.

A well known STMFC poster has purchased the tooling for the reefers from Terry's estate. I don't know if future kits will be offered, either from IM or the tool's owner.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "'Hunter, James R.' jhunter@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit
 
 
Excuse me, but what is a Wegman kit?  Are you buying IM and RC kits at Wegman's?

Jim Hunter 

From: STMFC@... on behalf of fgexbill@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:15 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit
 
 
I have built my Wegman kits as a -18 and -21 but I would not mind having another Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit to build. If you have such a kit to sell please contact off line at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com
 
Thank you,
BIll Welch



Re: Wegmann kits

"markstation01@yahoo.com <markstation01@...>
 


Re: Wegmann kits

naptownprr
 

Andy,


Thanks for clearing that up for me.  You see, out here, in PA, NJ or NY, Wegman's is a well-known grocery chain.


Jim


From: STMFC@... on behalf of Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:00 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Wegmann kits
 
 

Spelled with 2 'n's...

Terry Wegmann, a Southern California RR fan, was a tool maker. Of his many ventures, the flat kit of the PFE wood reefer classes of R-40(30)-18; -19; -21 has had the best sales. These were wooden carbody reefers, which after rebuilding, had steel ends and roofs. Terry sold 1000s of cast styrene components multiple times to Intermountain, who then sent them for assembly and painting to China. Intermountain never offered them as kits. Terry sold 100s of ! kits privately and through me. These kits were offered to STMFC readers over the last decade or so at various times.

A well known STMFC poster has purchased the tooling for the reefers from Terry's estate. I don't know if future kits will be offered, either from IM or the tool's owner.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "'Hunter, James R.' jhunter@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit

 
Excuse me, but what is a Wegman kit?  Are you buying IM and RC kits at Wegman's?

Jim Hunter 

From: STMFC@... on behalf of fgexbill@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:15 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit
 
 
I have built my Wegman kits as a -18 and -21 but I would not mind having another Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit to build. If you have such a kit to sell please contact off line at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com

Thank you,
BIll Welch



Re: Labor Day modeling follies

Greg Rich
 

If the stubborn bottle paint in question has a sticking lid due to dried paint build-up, one remedy I've used successfully is to invert the bottle on a surface and add a few drops on lacquer thinner to the inside of the ring formed by the metal cap. Let this sit for 4-5 minutes and remove the lid normally with a set of pliers. 
Ps. Try to clean the threads of the bottle/cap with thinner before reinstalling cap.

I 've rarely run across a stubborn cap that cannot be removed using this technique.

Greg Rich



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Re: Labor Day modeling follies

Peter Hall
 

All,

I have found “Soft Jaw Pliers” from Garrett-Wade work extremely well with stubborn lids on paint jars.  The large soft-jaw pipe pliers, Stock No. 94P05.01, will adapt to both Floquil-sized lids and Scalecoat-sized lids, as well as other sizes.  The pliers have soft, rubber-lined jaws which grip the metal lids without distorting them.

Combine the pliers with the hot-water-on-the-lid-only technique and I have been able to open every jar.  I also clean the top lip of the jar of paint, as well as the inside of the cap with a Q-tip, before replacing the cap.  I have found that shaking paint deposits a new film of paint on the jar and lid, so this has to be done each time I open the jar.

Thanks
Pete





On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Bill Hirt whirt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Denny,

I purchased a few years ago a paint bottle opener from Micro Mark 
<http://www.micromark.com/jar-opener-5-inch-dia-capacity,7725.html>. I 
just used again this weekend. I have never broken a jar using it and 
I've been able to even get very old and long unused paint bottles open 
with it. It works perfect for Floquil and Polly Scale bottles.

Bill Hirt

On 9/5/2016 7:34 PM, Denny Anspach danspachmd@... [STMFC] wrote:
> Perhaps from age, perhaps from being uncareful when closing bottles, but I am running into a plethora of used paint bottles -the usual ½ and 1 oz.- that i simply cannot open without some destruction. It is frustrating when a bottle half filled with just the paint that you need for the airbrush already in hand, and short of a hammer, one can simply not get it open (screw-driver prying, using a variety of bottle-lid opening tools, casting imprecations, muscle, etc.) with number landing in the waste basket unopened. How do others address this very frustrating and wasteful issue?
>
>



Wegmann kits

Andy Carlson
 

Spelled with 2 'n's...

Terry Wegmann, a Southern California RR fan, was a tool maker. Of his many ventures, the flat kit of the PFE wood reefer classes of R-40(30)-18; -19; -21 has had the best sales. These were wooden carbody reefers, which after rebuilding, had steel ends and roofs. Terry sold 1000s of cast styrene components multiple times to Intermountain, who then sent them for assembly and painting to China. Intermountain never offered them as kits. Terry sold 100s of kits privately and through me. These kits were offered to STMFC readers over the last decade or so at various times.

A well known STMFC poster has purchased the tooling for the reefers from Terry's estate. I don't know if future kits will be offered, either from IM or the tool's owner.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "'Hunter, James R.' jhunter@... [STMFC]" To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit

 
Excuse me, but what is a Wegman kit?  Are you buying IM and RC kits at Wegman's?

Jim Hunter 


From: STMFC@... on behalf of fgexbill@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:15 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit
 
 
I have built my Wegman kits as a -18 and -21 but I would not mind having another Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit to build. If you have such a kit to sell please contact off line at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com

Thank you,
BIll Welch



Re: WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit

naptownprr
 

Excuse me, but what is a Wegman kit?  Are you buying IM and RC kits at Wegman's?


Jim Hunter 


From: STMFC@... on behalf of fgexbill@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:15 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit
 
 

I have built my Wegman kits as a -18 and -21 but I would not mind having another Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit to build. If you have such a kit to sell please contact off line at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com


Thank you,

BIll Welch


WTB Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit

Bill Welch
 

I have built my Wegman kits as a -18 and -21 but I would not mind having another Undec. Red Caboose PFE 30-9 Kit to build. If you have such a kit to sell please contact off line at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com


Thank you,

BIll Welch


Re: Labor Day modeling follies

William Hirt
 

Denny,

I purchased a few years ago a paint bottle opener from Micro Mark <http://www.micromark.com/jar-opener-5-inch-dia-capacity,7725.html>. I just used again this weekend. I have never broken a jar using it and I've been able to even get very old and long unused paint bottles open with it. It works perfect for Floquil and Polly Scale bottles.

Bill Hirt

On 9/5/2016 7:34 PM, Denny Anspach danspachmd@gmail.com [STMFC] wrote:
Perhaps from age, perhaps from being uncareful when closing bottles, but I am running into a plethora of used paint bottles -the usual ½ and 1 oz.- that i simply cannot open without some destruction. It is frustrating when a bottle half filled with just the paint that you need for the airbrush already in hand, and short of a hammer, one can simply not get it open (screw-driver prying, using a variety of bottle-lid opening tools, casting imprecations, muscle, etc.) with number landing in the waste basket unopened. How do others address this very frustrating and wasteful issue?


Baby Standards' tank cars

D. Scott Chatfield
 

A couple friends who spent their careers with Chevron here in the southeast (Standard of California which bought Standard of Kentucky in 1941 if memory serves) have told me they only saw plain black UTLX tanks at their facilities.

Before adopting the brand nane Chevron, Standard of California called itself SoCal outside its home territory if memory serves while Standard of Kentucky called itself Kyso.

And one little point when talking about the Baby Standards:  each had the right to use the brand name "Standard" in their home territories, and several of them did so into the '70s, and Amoco did so into the early '90s.  The sticking point was SO-New Jersey called itself  "Esso" at home and wanted to use that name nationwide.  The other Standards wouldn't let them so Esso often used Enjay outside its home territory.  Finally Esso relented and adopted the name Exxon around 1970.


Scott Chatfield


Re: Adhesive for Gondola Clutter?

Todd Sullivan
 

I've used Hob-e-Tak by Woodland Scenics, and there are probably other similar products out there.  I dab small amounts with a toothpick on the floor and especially at the floor/side seam.  It dries very sticky, and I just sprinkle in the debris that I want, shake it around inside the gon, and shake out the excess after a few minutes.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Labor Day modeling follies

Jared Harper
 

Who's on this list, a  bunch of geezers?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


---In STMFC@..., <sarahsan@...> wrote :

Greg and Denny,

You need your own supply of these jar lid openers. :~) Seriously, I grab them up at county fairs and such, especially at booths that deal with ageing issues. My credit union also gives them away frequently. I mostly use them to hold the shafts when I set screw-on points to my wooden arrows (mandatory archery content).

Now I'm at the age where their use in the kitchen is becoming a day-to-day necessity.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 9/6/16 12:13 AM, tgregmrtn@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Denny,
 
As others have mentioned I too use hot water to expand the lid and in some cases the darn lids still wants to stick; so I wonder slowly into the kitchen and get the wife's rubber or neoprene bottle opener out of the drawer and wrap it tight and that more than not will do the job. (A wide rubber band works as well) I hate resorting to pliers of any kind if it can be helped. I also hate getting caught with the evidence in hand...    3^)
 
Greg Martin 
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
In a message dated 9/5/2016 5:41:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
Perhaps from age, perhaps from being uncareful when closing bottles, but I am running into a plethora of used paint bottles -the usual ½ and 1 oz.- that i simply cannot open without some destruction. It is frustrating when a bottle half filled with just the paint that you need for the airbrush already in hand, and short of a hammer, one can simply not get it open (screw-driver prying, using a variety of bottle-lid opening tools, casting imprecations, muscle, etc.) with number landing in the waste basket unopened. How do others address this very frustrating and wasteful issue?

Denny



Re: InterMountain doing another run of Terry Wegman's PFE reefer

Fred Jansz
 

BTW: these 18/19/21 reefers are bringing enormous prices on ebay! Followed a set of R-30-21 reefers for $44.95 each and they were gone in a day or what. This seller beats 'em all: new this R-30-18 was $ 28.97 according to the label on the box, now asking the bargain of $ 59.99 !!
Fred Jansz
InterMountain 47401-08 Reefer Southern Pacific SP PFE #61597 HO

 


Re: InterMountain doing another run of Terry Wegman's PFE reefer

Fred Jansz
 

Problem might be in the pricing. The 18/19/21 series costs $ 42.95 ! While their 'ever lasting' 23-seris costs $32.95 A reefer is a reefer, isn't it? The 25 is $ 34.95 and the 10 is 39.95 Seems to me the chinese want some more food besides that bowl of white rice. Maybe it's about time to get production back in the US of A? Another tactics might be to stop the 10, 23 & 25 series cars and focus on the 'new' 18/19/21 series. That makes them look more 'exclusive' and maybe this could trigger pre-orders? I own like 12 R-40-23 cars now, how many more 23's does one need...? BTW: I wouldn't mind a few 18/19/21 KITS!
best regards, Fred Jansz


Re: Labor Day modeling follies

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Greg and Denny,

You need your own supply of these jar lid openers. :~) Seriously, I grab them up at county fairs and such, especially at booths that deal with ageing issues. My credit union also gives them away frequently. I mostly use them to hold the shafts when I set screw-on points to my wooden arrows (mandatory archery content).

Now I'm at the age where their use in the kitchen is becoming a day-to-day necessity.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 9/6/16 12:13 AM, tgregmrtn@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Denny,
 
As others have mentioned I too use hot water to expand the lid and in some cases the darn lids still wants to stick; so I wonder slowly into the kitchen and get the wife's rubber or neoprene bottle opener out of the drawer and wrap it tight and that more than not will do the job. (A wide rubber band works as well) I hate resorting to pliers of any kind if it can be helped. I also hate getting caught with the evidence in hand...    3^)
 
Greg Martin 
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
In a message dated 9/5/2016 5:41:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:
Perhaps from age, perhaps from being uncareful when closing bottles, but I am running into a plethora of used paint bottles -the usual ½ and 1 oz.- that i simply cannot open without some destruction. It is frustrating when a bottle half filled with just the paint that you need for the airbrush already in hand, and short of a hammer, one can simply not get it open (screw-driver prying, using a variety of bottle-lid opening tools, casting imprecations, muscle, etc.) with number landing in the waste basket unopened. How do others address this very frustrating and wasteful issue?

Denny



Re: Labor Day modeling follies

rob.mclear3@...
 

Floquil caps can be difficult and I don't like using pliers for the reasons that one of the other posters mentioned, I have broken the glass jar top and cap right off the bottle, not good for the hands.  What I do now is have a piece of pliable rubber pad, the kind that has perforations in it and used in cupboards to stop things sliding around, on hand and wrap that around the cap I can usually get the caps off with this although it does take some force.   I have also used lacquer thinner in the cap upside down as well and that works ok too.

Rob McLear
Aussie.


Re: InterMountain doing another run of Terry Wegman's PFE reefer

Scott Kremer
 

I have had these on order for some time. At the national train show I was told that there are currently not enough orders to put these cars into production despite the stated delivery date. I wish Intermountain could make it clear to us the current production decisions. i do not think it is good for them or us to list delivery dates and then change them continuously. If more orders are needed tell us to help develop those orders.

Scott Kremer


On Sep 5, 2016, at 9:59 PM, fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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