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Boiler load for a flat car

Eric Hansmann
 

The HO scale Resin Car Works boiler load makes for a quick and easy addition to a flat car. Assembly tips and adding weight are just a couple points shared in the latest RCW blog post.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/resin-car-works-boiler-load/



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: Fw: Limited Shipping in Winter Months at Greenway Products

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Yes I got a pair of boxpok driving wheels of them. I ordered the latest of Teds freight books I knew I should have ordered it last week but my visa was groaning so I thought I will leave it until this week ūüė£

On Mon, 10 Oct, 2016 at 10:38, Barry Bennett barrybennetttoo@... [STMFC]
wrote:
 

They sell some interesting stuff, though not a lot of use to me apart from trucks etc. 

At the moment I am not inclined to buy anything from the US due to the exchange rate. Currently I want an all bells and whistles Cotton Belt VO-1000 from Bowser. M B Klein have discounted from $299.96 down to $224.99.

Mid June that would have been £157.33 + VAT, now it is £181.15 + VAT, £24 + VAT more expensive. And when you apply that to Intermountain FT A-B units at $440 a pop it is a whole lot more, even with discount.

And you can add shipping costs to that as well.

What is more annoying is that these are all limited edition so might never be done again.

Barry

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Paul Doggett paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 



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On Mon, 10 Oct, 2016 at 1:33, Greenway Products<greenwayproducts@ comcast.net> wrote:

To all Customers,

As usual we will close our warehouse operations in mid-November, to reopen in April.

Winter shipments will again be limited to:

- Big Sound units
- Tahoe Trucks,
- NWSL Wheelsets
- NWSL Stanton Drivers
- Kadee Trucks
- Kadee Couplers

It would be a good idea to plan ahead in case you need to stock any Greenway items that might be needed for your winter projects.

Thanks Al

Greenway Products
139 Ramsey Road
(724) 238-6268

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Re: Fw: Limited Shipping in Winter Months at Greenway Products

Barry Bennett
 

They sell some interesting stuff, though not a lot of use to me apart from trucks etc. 

At the moment I am not inclined to buy anything from the US due to the exchange rate. Currently I want an all bells and whistles Cotton Belt VO-1000 from Bowser. M B Klein have discounted from $299.96 down to $224.99.

Mid June that would have been £157.33 + VAT, now it is £181.15 + VAT, £24 + VAT more expensive. And when you apply that to Intermountain FT A-B units at $440 a pop it is a whole lot more, even with discount.

And you can add shipping costs to that as well.

What is more annoying is that these are all limited edition so might never be done again.

Barry

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Paul Doggett paul.doggett2472@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 



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On Mon, 10 Oct, 2016 at 9:50, Paul Doggett<paul.doggett2472@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

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On Mon, 10 Oct, 2016 at 1:33, Greenway Products<greenwayproducts@comcast.net> wrote:

To all Customers,

As usual we will close our warehouse operations in mid-November, to reopen in April.

Winter shipments will again be limited to:

- Big Sound units
- Tahoe Trucks,
- NWSL Wheelsets
- NWSL Stanton Drivers
- Kadee Trucks
- Kadee Couplers

It would be a good idea to plan ahead in case you need to stock any Greenway items that might be needed for your winter projects.

Thanks Al

Greenway Products
139 Ramsey Road
(724) 238-6268

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Fw: Limited Shipping in Winter Months at Greenway Products

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

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On Mon, 10 Oct, 2016 at 9:50, Paul Doggett<paul.doggett2472@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Mon, 10 Oct, 2016 at 1:33, Greenway Products<greenwayproducts@comcast.net> wrote:


To all Customers,

As usual we will close our warehouse operations in mid-November, to reopen in April.

Winter shipments will again be limited to:

- Big Sound units
- Tahoe Trucks,
- NWSL Wheelsets
- NWSL Stanton Drivers
- Kadee Trucks
- Kadee Couplers

It would be a good idea to plan ahead in case you need to stock any Greenway items that might be needed for your winter projects.

Thanks Al

Greenway Products
139 Ramsey Road
(724) 238-6268

To Unsubscribe from this Newsletter click here


From the eye of the storm

Mikebrock
 

On Friday morning‚Ķat around 6AM [ the exact time eludes me ], the ‚Äúeye‚ÄĚ of hurricane Matthew reached a point about a hundred yards or so east of the Cocoa Beach Hilton [ where Prototype Rails is annually held]. Having some experience with storms such as Matthew [ I even wrote a research paper on Hurricanes while in college ] ¬†and soon after arriving at Cape Canaveral in 1964 , I was confronted with hurricane Cleo [ the first of about 5 ‚Äėcanes that year]. At first I thought it was all great fun‚Ķthe rather young population at the Cape eagerly generated what became known as ‚Äúhurricane parties‚ÄĚ. Eventually, however, such activities became rather boring. I mean why incase one‚Äôs self in a small bar and get stoned when the weather had little to do with the urge to get stoned. And then, of course, there is a big difference between a 20+ yr old consuming quantities of beer and a 30 yr old wondering if his new house would survive the visit from the latest ‚Äúcane. Rocky Top [ I grew up im Oak Ridge, Tennessee ] was never like this.

 

At any rate, having spent more than one night without power [ and, thus, no AC ] due to named storms, we decided long ago to follow the commands of local law enforcement and evacuate [ we live in a house sitting at 8 feet elevation]. In fact, I believe the last ‚Äėcane we welcomed personally was Erin with its 100 mph wind speeds as it came ashore near Vero Beach [ no doubt looking for us ]. The effect of it all was that we determined that listening to objects striking the roof during the night [ and hoping the part of the roof under attack was not the train room ], was not fun. Then, in a moment of inspiration we decided that camping out in a large hotel in Orlando was not a bad idea. This yr, however, we decided to take up residence in the Hilton in Melbourne, much closer‚Ķcomfortably at an elevation considerably above 8 feet. Interestingly, this hotel allows dogs along with their owners when the owners are refugees like us so we had a nice dog show. You might ask, why not the Hilton on Cocoa Beach? Simple, the state issued a mandatory evacuation order for the beaches and I could see it coming.

 

So, you might also ask, what does this have to do with frt cars? Not much. ¬†But, I have numerous resin frt cars wandering about in the train room. These cars were built in an environment of about 1013 millibars of air pressure. Friday morning the air pressure in the ‚Äúeye‚ÄĚ was at 937 mb. Believe it or not, my ears could detect the change. So, will the resin cars, with air inside at 1013 mg ¬†‚Äúpop‚ÄĚ their sides? All I have to do is look I suppose but‚Ķ

 

Another observation I made is that the sound of objects striking the roof of the Hilton are quite similar to that of tree limbs hitting our house’s roof…although perhaps louder. We had a room on the 8th floor [ top level ].

 

BTW, if anyone needs any slightly used pine tree branches don’t hesitate to let me know. There’s no rush, I have a huge pile at curb side and it will likely be there during Prototype Rails.

 

For those curious, our Cocoa Beach Hilton was closed on Saturday.  I understand that the new owners applied hurricane protection devices [ we did too..no glass in our home. ]. I plan to visit with the hotel this coming week for a first hand look.

 

Last, let me tell you of a wonderful sound. That produced by a garage door opener. IOW, we got power!

 

Please excuse the out of scope parts of this message. The elation of sending Matthew packing is hard to describe….or control.

 

Mike Brock

 


Re: ex-D&RGW box car?

Tim O'Connor
 


 Do you have any other information on it?
 Scott McDonald


Scott and Eric

Here is information I received. The GWR box car is ex D&RGW 61720-61799 series, rebuilt
with new steel sheathing and doors and roof raised 1941-42, from the original wood [double?] sheathed
series 61400-61699 built by Mt Vernon Car 6=7-1927

The rebuilt cars had 15'6" door openings.

Tim O'Connor


Re: ex-D&RGW box car?

Tim O'Connor
 


photos, and signed affidavits, of course



"I have confirmed that it is an ex-D&RGW rebuild"
How did you confirm it, Tim?


I have confirmed that it is an ex-D&RGW rebuild.

>It could be Rio Grande. I looked through the ATSF Furniture and automobile book and there was nothing like it there. The double sheathed is a tell that it probably wasn't an ATSF car.
>
>Scott McDonald

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL
rericlombard at gmail.com
elombard at uchicago.edu


Re: Odd Tank Car

Bruce Smith
 

‚ÄčEd,


First, given that there are THREE tank cars in the photo, which one are you interested in?


Second, all three (or at the very least 1 and 3) are insulated tank cars and may well be built after the period of the list, but the designs are similar to those of the period for the the list.  The 1st and 3rd appear to have the largest capacity, while #2 is a significantly smaller.


Third, the photo lacks the details necessary for me to be able to identify owner, lessor or builder.


Regards

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... on behalf of lehighman@... [STMFC]
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 2:55 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Odd Tank Car
 


I found a picture of a tank car I have not previously seen in the book "The Lehigh Valley Railroad, A Photo Album" by Ken Kraemer.  I have placed the photo in the files section.  It was taken at Sayre PA..  The picture likely post-dates the period covered by this group but the car looks like it has been around awhile. Can anyone identify this type of car?

Ed Robinson





Re: Rr-20 Not SEVEN door dry ice reefer

John Barry
 

Well the crow I'm eating is a little dry and stringy.  I should know better than to post something as I rush to get out the door.  If I had taken a closer look I would have confirmed that the three and four door sides of the Rr-20 in FoFC 6 actually have two different numbers and represent a change of design from three to four compartments.  Please disregard all of the speculation about longitudinal or single sided partitions in the original message.  The four compartment car is 6008 and joins 6011 listed in the Refrigerator Car book as a second photo documented four door car.

 And my thanks to all of you who politely bit your tongues and refrained from flaming me for my egregious error.

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



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To: STMFC ; SANTAFE Discussion List ; AT&SF ; Yahoo! Inc. ; Keith Jordan ; John Moore
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 12:20 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Rr-20 SEVEN door dry ice reefer

 
Thanks to Ted Culotta and FoFC 6 it looks like the Rr-20 class of dry ice reefers actually has seven doors, four on the R side and three on the L.  I am not sure if there was a longitudinal partition in the center of the car or if there were small three transverse compartments accessible from only one side of the car.  On page 121 of the Santa Fe Rolling Stock Reference series Vol 2, Refrigerator Cars is a photo of the four door side of SFRD 6011, which at the time of publication was the only known photo of a "four door" car.  

With this new publication of both sides of SFRD 6004, it is evidence of at least two of that class with four doors on at least one side.  While unusual it wasn't the first instance of asymmetrical construction.  It gives credence to the possibility that there were seven doors on the bulk of that series of dry ice reefers 6004-11.


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



Re: ex-D&RGW box car?

Scott
 

Do you have any other information on it?

Scott McDonald


Re: ex-D&RGW box car?

Eric Lombard
 

"I have confirmed that it is an ex-D&RGW rebuild"
How did you confirm it, Tim?


On Sunday, October 9, 2016, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 


I have confirmed that it is an ex-D&RGW rebuild.

>It could be Rio Grande. I looked through the ATSF Furniture and automobile book and there was nothing like it there. The double sheathed is a tell that it probably wasn't an ATSF car.
>
>Scott McDonald




Re: searching for JLSX (Jones & Laughlin) tank car photos

Tim O'Connor
 


Hi Jim - yes, I agree. I firmly believe that the famous builder photo of the
one tank car - which I think is WHITE, not ALUMINUM - is just an example of a
typical builder "white wash" of the car. I've seen many such builder photos
of box cars, gondolas, etc. Some even have white washed wheels.

CHAMP unfortunately took the photo literally and printed BLACK decals, which should
have been done in white!

I have one in-service photo of a car in a train wreck at Montour Junction. I think
the cars were used for inter-plant moves, and not just intra-plant moves. But they
were obviously in restricted service, and very rarely, photographed.

I was hoping to find a good 3/4 photo of a black car with lettering. I am painting
cars for a client and I have about 6 or 7 to paint for him. :-|

Thanks!

Tim O'

==============================

Jim Mischke wrote

Several thoughts, Tim.   I refer to the classic three dome tank car from Lambert in brass, F&C in resin.

-  Ghost Railroads X, by Wayne Cole, a book about the Aliquippa Works and the A&S, has a photo of a three dome tank car in intraplant service.  The reporting marks are not JSLX but maybe a corporate abbreviation, mounted on a plaque slightly above the walkway on the righthand side.  No other lettering visible.  Tank car may be bolted onto other infrastructure in stationary service.

book link:  http://www.abebooks.com/Ghost-Rails-Iron-Phantoms-Aliquippa-Southern/14076628225/bd .

-  An acquaintance was a J&L South Works coke plant employee for many years from the 1960's and said they were used in his day for intraplant tasks only, they were black, extremely dirty, and he never saw any legible lettering on them.

-  I seem to remember that in their prime, these tank cars were used to transfer coal car products between Aliquippa coke works and the South Works coke works for additional processing.  This would be a P&LE move between the MonCon and A&S interchanges.   This service limitation may be true in part, might be folklore.

-  Old information, the oft-published aluminum painted J&L tank car upon which Champ decals are based may well have been a sample car, not an in-service appearance.

-  Old information, the University of Pittsburgh archives has a image a three dome J&L tank car in a P&LE derailment in 1948 near Corapolis, Pa., it is only a distant end view.  Discussed on this list years ago.

-  Myself, I will be modeling a piece of J&L/MonCon trackage adjacent to B&O's Laughlin Jct.  I will have a couple Lambert tank cars with little visible lettering as wheeled scenery.   Along with a short cut of ON/CN/C&S/P&LE hoppers in ore service from Adams Lake, Ont., a prototype J&L unit train move between 1965-1974.  Not a B&O move, either.

I hope there is something in this treatment that informs or inspires you.


Re: ex-D&RGW box car?

Tim O'Connor
 

I have confirmed that it is an ex-D&RGW rebuild.

It could be Rio Grande. I looked through the ATSF Furniture and automobile book and there was nothing like it there. The double sheathed is a tell that it probably wasn't an ATSF car.

Scott McDonald


Re: searching for JLSX (Jones & Laughlin) tank car photos

Jim Mischke
 



Several thoughts, Tim.   I refer to the classic three dome tank car from Lambert in brass, F&C in resin.



-  Ghost Railroads X, by Wayne Cole, a book about the Aliquippa Works and the A&S, has a photo of a three dome tank car in intraplant service.  The reporting marks are not JSLX but maybe a corporate abbreviation, mounted on a plaque slightly above the walkway on the righthand side.  No other lettering visible.  Tank car may be bolted onto other infrastructure in stationary service.

book link:  http://www.abebooks.com/Ghost-Rails-Iron-Phantoms-Aliquippa-Southern/14076628225/bd.

-  An acquaintance was a J&L South Works coke plant employee for many years from the 1960's and said they were used in his day for intraplant tasks only, they were black, extremely dirty, and he never saw any legible lettering on them.

-  I seem to remember that in their prime, these tank cars were used to transfer coal car products between Aliquippa coke works and the South Works coke works for additional processing.  This would be a P&LE move between the MonCon and A&S interchanges.   This service limitation may be true in part, might be folklore.

-  Old information, the oft-published aluminum painted J&L tank car upon which Champ decals are based may well have been a sample car, not an in-service appearance.

-  Old information, the University of Pittsburgh archives has a image a three dome J&L tank car in a P&LE derailment in 1948 near Corapolis, Pa., it is only a distant end view.  Discussed on this list years ago.

-  Myself, I will be modeling a piece of J&L/MonCon trackage adjacent to B&O's Laughlin Jct.  I will have a couple Lambert tank cars with little visible lettering as wheeled scenery.   Along with a short cut of ON/CN/C&S/P&LE hoppers in ore service from Adams Lake, Ont., a prototype J&L unit train move between 1965-1974.  Not a B&O move, either.



I hope there is something in this treatment that informs or inspires you.


Re: ex-D&RGW box car?

Scott
 

It could be Rio Grande. I looked through the ATSF Furniture and automobile book and there was nothing like it there. The double sheathed is a tell that it probably wasn't an ATSF car.

Scott McDonald


Paint/ lettering schemes suitable for late 1940s - beginning 1950s?

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello friends,

I have one each of these cars:


Accurail HO #2807 (55 Ton Pnl/side Twin Hopper) GTW


7016 Kadee HO CIL Monon 50 Ton 2 Bay Open Hopper NIB


The Accurail car is lettered NEW 7-34 and I wonder if this scheme could still be seen after WWII.

The Kadee car is lettered NEW 5-54 and I wonder if this scheme maybe did appear e few years earlier so I only would heve to change the date.


Many thanks for your help.


Johannes



Odd Tank Car

Ed
 

I found a picture of a tank car I have not previously seen in the book "The Lehigh Valley Railroad, A Photo Album" by Ken Kraemer.  I have placed the photo in the files section.  It was taken at Sayre PA..  The picture likely post-dates the period covered by this group but the car looks like it has been around awhile. Can anyone identify this type of car?

Ed Robinson



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Re: Railroad true stories?

ron christensen
 

I have found a Nov 1939
 
Ron



From: "grangerroads@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, October 7, 2016 12:40 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Railroad true stories?

 
Ron,

I'm interested in late 1930s Railroad magazines. If you wish, please contact me at:

grangerroads@...

(Thought I could send you a private email but the method here eludes me.)

Brian Chapman
Cedar Rapids, Iowa



Rr-20 SEVEN door dry ice reefer

John Barry
 

Thanks to Ted Culotta and FoFC 6 it looks like the Rr-20 class of dry ice reefers actually has seven doors, four on the R side and three on the L.  I am not sure if there was a longitudinal partition in the center of the car or if there were small three transverse compartments accessible from only one side of the car.  On page 121 of the Santa Fe Rolling Stock Reference series Vol 2, Refrigerator Cars is a photo of the four door side of SFRD 6011, which at the time of publication was the only known photo of a "four door" car.  

With this new publication of both sides of SFRD 6004, it is evidence of at least two of that class with four doors on at least one side.  While unusual it wasn't the first instance of asymmetrical construction.  It gives credence to the possibility that there were seven doors on the bulk of that series of dry ice reefers 6004-11.


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736

47401 - 47420 of 192618