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Re: Tank Cars On The Susquehanna

Douglas Harding
 

Bob according the caption accompanying the photo on the website:

WW #43 is the last of the Robert Richardson S&NY photos from the Denver Public Library’s Western History Collection. In this image, #119 is seen departing the Lehigh Valley’s Towanda station with an interesting mixed train in tow. Ancient combine #102 carries the rear markers behind an almost equally ancient Milwaukee Road wooden-sheathed boxcar, and two tank cars. I cannot make out the ownership of the second tank car, but the first has GATX reporting marks, and is leased to Penick and Ford Ltd. Inc. P&F were makers of corn and sugar food products whose brand names included Brer Rabbit molasses, Brer Rabbit Syrup, Penick salad oil, and Douglas feed. They were also major suppliers of starch to the paper industry. Sunshine once offered an HO kit of this car with P&F decals.Sunshine GATX Type 30 8k tank cars (See page 2 of the Sunshine data sheet)

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Detroit and Mackinac boxcar photos found

gtws00
 

I wanted to share these 3 photos of a Detroit and Mackinac boxcar with the group. I took these in 1971 at the Burlington Diesel House in Cicero Illinois. It looks like the build date is 10-37. Also one photo of a CB&Q outside braced boxcar.

George Toman


Re: Tank Cars On The Susquehanna

Tangent Scale Models
 

Tim is correct that the first tank in this photo is a "type 30" GATC build, 8,000 gallons.  The second tank is a 1917-design GATC build with its distinctive cast knee bolster, insulated 8,000 gallons.

Best wishes,

David Lehlbach


Chicagoland Attendance

Nelson Moyer
 

Re attendance, I heard Mike say something over 250. Final numbers from Saturday had not been counted at that point. That is a significant increase over last year’s count. The vibes were also improved, as were the number of models displayed compared to last year. Vendors were down, probably due to the dwindling turnout over the last few years. Hopefully, this year’s success will bring them back.

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Additional Naperville Note

Tom Madden
 

Are there any serious prototype modelers who aren't, in some way, historians? We aren't all playing follow the leader here.

If you're asking what percentage of the attendees was (were?) modelers, 90 percent would be my WAG.

Tom Madden, on the CZ in southern Iowa


Re: Additional Naperville Note

water.kresse@...
 

What percent historians versus modelers?




From: "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 3:32:35 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Additional Naperville Note

 

Bill, do you know what the attendance was or what it was compared to last year?
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 3:18 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Additional Naperville Note
 
 

 
Many familiar faces were missing this year.  I hope they will see the comments and return next year.
 
Bill Pardie
 
 
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Re: Additional Naperville Note

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Sorry Gary.  I'm not privy to that information

Bill Pardie



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From: "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
Date: 10/23/16 2:32 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Additional Naperville Note

 

Bill, do you know what the attendance was or what it was compared to last year?
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 3:18 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Additional Naperville Note
 
 

 
Many familiar faces were missing this year.  I hope they will see the comments and return next year.
 
Bill Pardie
 
 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


Re: Additional Naperville Note

gary laakso
 

Bill, do you know what the attendance was or what it was compared to last year?
 
gary laakso
south of Mike Brock
 

Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 3:18 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Additional Naperville Note
 
 

 
Many familiar faces were missing this year.  I hope they will see the comments and return next year.
 
Bill Pardie
 
 
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Additional Naperville Note

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Many familiar faces were missing this year.  I hope they will see the comments and return next year.

Bill Pardie


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Re: Naperville 16

np328
 

     Yes, I would also like to thank Mike and his support crew for an excellent couple of days. Relaxed start and yes, the brochures and the kit for the early sign ups were a wonderful touch.
     Everything went smoothly and having put on some smaller events and small get-togethers over the years, that is evidence of a lot of behind the scenes prior work done here. Mike always appeared to be relaxed and smiling and accessible, also evidence of planning done well.    
     In addition, a shout out to Tony Thompson and Steve Hile for the FOTFC event. Nicely Done.
                                                                                                                  Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN 


Re: Tank Cars On The Susquehanna (Milwaukee Road double sheathed box car)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Darn...I just saw another boxcar from another road that looked the same earlier today and I did not make a note of it.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: ACL stock car

William Dale
 

The Boston & Maine converted a few box cars having this design in 27500 series, F&C does this kit in resin.

Bill Dale


Re: Naperville 16

Tony Thompson
 

Total agreement, Mike Skibbe did a great job. Looking forward to next year.
Tony Thompson


On Oct 23, 2016, at 11:03 AM, cepropst@q.com [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Call it what you wish, hat’s off to Mike and his crew for a very fine event! If you’ve stayed away recently for whatever reason, no reason to any longer. Please mark this event on next years calendar.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Tank Cars On The Susquehanna

Tim O'Connor
 


The Penick & Ford tank car is a GATC Type 30, built 5-28. There is an excellent broadside
photo of GATX 12503. The one in your photo is GATX 12500. So there were at least 4 cars. :-)

The other tank car appears to be American Maize Products and I can't make out the frame
details, but it's definitely an insulated tank car.

So, two loads of corn syrup. And a Milwaukee Road double sheathed box car?? I've never seen
one like that before.

Tim O'Connor






This photo link is from a website on the Susquehanna & New York Railroad at
http://snyrr.com/ .
On the link is a photo of two tank cars:
http://snyrr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/119-Towanda-DPL-1.jpg
Click on the photo to enlarge it a bit more. Unfortunately the angle of the photo is not ideal for capturing a great amount of detail.
Can anyone comment on these cars?
Thanks.

By the way, there are a lot of steam era photos on this website.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: ACL stock car

ed_mines
 

Thanks Doug, good eye.


The SAL cars are close to the kit - kit has 1,5,5,5 murphy ends, actual cars had 7,8 ends and cars in this series are listed in the '43 NMRA ORER. Cars are stock car versions of class B3 box cars.


The sides and door are different, but easy to fix.


The Ulrich die cast frame (metal braces) is an exact fit to a train miniature X29 box car - a 1990s version of the classic pratt truss Seaboard box car.


I bought the Ulrich stock car kit and an Ulrich hopper kit (both with trucks) for under $16 on e bay.


Ed Mines


Re: Naperville 16

Joseph
 

I agree completely with Clark.  
I promise to bring models next year, might even put a seminar together....

Joe Binish


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From: "cepropst@q.com [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
Date: 10/23/16 11:03 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Naperville 16

Call it what you wish, hat’s off to Mike and his crew for a very fine event! If you’ve stayed away recently for whatever reason, no reason to any longer. Please mark this event on next years calendar.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Naperville 2016

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


A strong second to Clark's comments.  From the convention kit to the professionally printed program guide, great seminars and twice the number of display models from last year it was definitely a class event.  Great to see this on the upswing.

Bill Pardie.


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Naperville 16

Clark Propst
 

Call it what you wish, hat’s off to Mike and his crew for a very fine event! If you’ve stayed away recently for whatever reason, no reason to any longer. Please mark this event on next years calendar.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Tank Cars On The Susquehanna

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This photo link is from a website on the Susquehanna & New York Railroad at

http://snyrr.com/ .

 

On the link is a photo of two tank cars:

 

http://snyrr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/119-Towanda-DPL-1.jpg

 

Click on the photo to enlarge it a bit more. Unfortunately the angle of the photo is not ideal for capturing a great amount of detail.

 

Can anyone comment on these cars?

 

Thanks.


By the way, there are a lot of steam era photos on this website.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NKP box car with unusual ends

Scott H. Haycock
 

Tim,

These cars are covered in RPC 26. These were the 1st cars to receive this end. the cars only had a 10'-0" IH, so that is probably why they have a 3-4  corrugation pattern.

250 cars, built for the W&LE, #s 23500-23749. When the NKP leased the W&LE in 1949, they started putting NKP markings on the cars. In 1951. 3 cars were marked NKP. By 1957, 123 cars were so marked. The article makes no mention of any rebuilding, other than 4 cars getting roof hatches between 1962 and 1963.

Scott Haycock 


 


I can't recall ever seeing ends exactly like this before. Is this car
a rebuild from something else?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122116618238

Tim O'Connor


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