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Al Gest
 

 

 

From: on behalf of "Dick Harley dick.harley4up@... [STMFC]"
Reply-To:
Date: Monday, October 24, 2016 at 4:56 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] Traveling with models (was Re: Additional Naperville Note)

 

 


Both Dave Hussey and I flew to Chicago from SoCal for the RPM Chicagoland meet, and we both took several models. I suppose your experience depends on the TSA folks you meet, but my perception is that they are getting much better and friendlier. I do make a point of saying that my carry-on bag has model trains in it before it gets to the x-ray machine. I once had a TSA guy say, "Is that a 4-6-6-4?", and he was right. Last summer a TSA guy in Sacramento who didn't hear my warning said, "What's in this blue duffel?" After I said, "Model trains.", he said, "Oh, that's what those are!" This year going to Chicago the x-ray guy asked, "So where are the cars and planes?" Freight cars are really easy, because they don't have any electrical wires.

I now carry models in Plano model 23630 (now 2363001) polyethylene boxes, which hold three HO cars up to 60-ft. long. Just cradle in a layer or two of small bubble wrap and slide in up-side-down. The utility boxes protect the models completely, and you can put several boxes in a small duffel or similar bag as an airplane carry-on.
See: http://www.planomolding.com/fishing/stowaway-utility-boxes/prolatch-stowaway-utility-boxes
Their model 2373005 (was 3730) holds four longer HO cars or locos.

Maybe TSA Pre-check helps, but I have been carrying models this way long before that started. The bubble wrap cradle easily allows models to be slipped in and out of the clear boxes, if someone wants a closer look. But I have never had that happen in a decade of using this method.

So restrain your previous fears of carrying models on airplanes and take some with you to the next meet. TSA and the airlines are much more worried about Samsung 7 cellphones.

My congratulations too to Mike Skibbie and his crew for a great meet.
The pylons around the hotel made it mostly unnecessary to carry a schedule. And I agree with Dave that the open display / vendor room was really enjoyable.

Cheers,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA


Re: UTLX 530 Model: Steve Hile please tell. . .

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <fgexbill@...> wrote :

more about this very striking model. Thank you!

Bill Welch

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Now come on, Bill, you KNOW this is the experimental car UTLX built to transport casting resin for model RR kit production... designed for materials with a 2:1 mix ratio. The experiment came to an abrupt end when the car developed a leak in the bulkheads between the compartments, and the entire load went solid while in transit.


Dennis (warming up for April 1st) Storzek


Re: [EXTERNAL] 2016 RPM Chicagoland gallery

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Great!

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [STMFC] 2016 RPM Chicagoland gallery



I have uploaded a passel of images from the recent RPM Chicagoland meet. These were all taken with my iPhone and are not sterling quality. Most were tweaked in Photoshop so you can see things better. I apologize for any harsh color shifts or lighting on some images. I was intending these to be for personal use but thought many of you would enjoy them. Here's the link.



http://www.pbase.com/ehansmann/2016_rpm_chicagoland



I was unable to tag one image with the modelers' name. It is the only image beginning with IMG. If anyone can pass that info along, I'd be happy to update the details on the file.



Thanks again to Mike Skibbe and his crew for a solid event!





Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


Re: Faded Logo Paint?

 

I have a builder’s photo of 40506, a 50’ DD box. The “N” is also hard to discern. I blame the lack of (or wrong) filter.





Thanks!
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Brian Ehni



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Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 6:25 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] Faded Logo Paint?





Notice the logo on this New Haven boxcar. The "N" appears to be very badly faded. Was this a common problem when black paint was used for the "N" on New Haven equipment?



http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/9/2/926606/38ed9532-4956-4963-b37e-947a3a06b1fd-A28860.jpg



Bob Chaparro

Hemet, VA


UTLX 530 Model: Steve Hile please tell. . .

Bill Welch
 

more about this very striking model. Thank you!

Bill Welch



Re: Additional Naperville Note

Fred Jansz
 

Hi Dick,

hate to interfere & correct, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to my recent experiences Red Caboose made a low R-30-12-9 (28mm high) and a high R-30-9 (30mm high).
I know this because I'm into this discussion with Intermountain at the moment.
They sell (sold) two bodies of which I need 5 of the the higher ones (I model 1950) and they've sent me the short ones unfortuantely.
The higher ones being not in stock at the moment.
So I have 5 of the short bodies plus matching ends for sale.
These are with holes for grabs, while the taller R-30-9 ones are without holes for ladders,

cheers
Fred Jansz


Re: Additional Naperville Note

Dick Harley
 


Bill Pardie asked, which kit to use as a starting point for the R-30-12 PFE reefers.


Hi Bill,

Stuart Forsyth prodded and later showed me how to make PowerPoint slides into JPG files so I could put my clinics up on my SmugMug site:

So I have done my clinic from RPM Chicagoland, and it is in the PFE Models folder on the SmugMug site.  Of course, you have to go to the meet and attend the clinic to get the narration that goes with it, but you did that.

The quick answer to your question about modeling a PFE R-30-12 in HO scale is that Red Caboose made two similar cars: the R-30-12 and the taller R-30-12-9.  So you want the shorter car body.  Be aware that the R-30-12 class was essentially gone (rebuilt into newer classes) by 1950.  You can check the "Top Ten" class data for various years on my SmugMug site too.

I'll be putting more of my clinics and other data on that SmugMug site in the coming weeks.  So check in once in a while to see what's new.


Good to see you last week too,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA



Re: FW: Request to join STMFC denied

 

David Engle tried to join, but his application was denied by Yahoo after sitting for 2 weeks awaiting attention. 

He has reapplied, and would be a good fit for this group, in my opinion. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
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On Oct 25, 2016, at 7:37 PM, 'Mike Brock' brockm@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Tim,

 

Your message is interesting…although a bit curious. What message do you refer to? I know of no rejection of membership by the STMFC except possibly when and if a potential member does not reply to the “rules” message sent to him. In this case if the potential member does not reply, their request will time out and will be removed by Yahoo.

 

BTW, such messages about the operation of the group are not permitted on the STMFC.

 

Mike Brock


Subject: Re: [STMFC] FW: Request to join STMFC denied

 

 




Re: FW: Request to join STMFC denied

Mikebrock
 

Tim,

 

Your message is interesting…although a bit curious. What message do you refer to? I know of no rejection of membership by the STMFC except possibly when and if a potential member does not reply to the “rules” message sent to him. In this case if the potential member does not reply, their request will time out and will be removed by Yahoo.

 

BTW, such messages about the operation of the group are not permitted on the STMFC.

 

Mike Brock


Subject: Re: [STMFC] FW: Request to join STMFC denied

 

 




Re: PRR X30 was Re: Re: Slightly Off-Topic

Jack Mullen
 

This photo shows an aerial ladder truck built by Peter Pirsch of Kenosha Wis being unloaded in Baltimore.
http://yngfire.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11409.0;attach=64859;image

 


I don't suppose anyone can identify the car from what's visible in the photo, but AFAIK the X30 was the only end-door car long enough for this load in the '50s. Anyone know of another?

If it is indeed the X30, this would be evidence of use for shipments not originating on PRR. 

Jack Mullen


 


Faded Logo Paint?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Notice the logo on this New Haven boxcar. The "N" appears to be very badly faded. Was this a common problem when black paint was used for the "N" on New Haven equipment?

 

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/9/2/926606/38ed9532-4956-4963-b37e-947a3a06b1fd-A28860.jpg

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, VA

 


PRR X30 was Re: Re: Slightly Off-Topic

SUVCWORR@...
 

The PRR X30 was built as an experimental boxcar and assigned to the LaFrance factory in Elmira, NY.  It was capable of carrying on aerial extension ladder truck.  There was only one of these built.

Somewhere I have a photo of the X30 being unloaded with an extension aerial ladder truck in Island Avenue Yard, Pittsburgh, PA.

Rich Orr


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Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2016 2:14 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Slightly Off-Topic


The PRR X30 must have been for ladder trucks or something special. Many
railroads had end door 40 foot and 50 foot box cars for long loads such as
fire trucks, buses, or whatever. I have a scan of a wrecked end door CV box
(it appears to be a single sheathed car) with a fire truck inside.

Tim O'Connor



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Re: 2016 RPM Chicagoland gallery

Peter Hall
 

Those are good photos Eric, I’m really glad someone documented all the fine models that were there.

Thanks
Pete





On Oct 25, 2016, at 2:42 PM, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


I have uploaded a passel of images from the recent RPM Chicagoland meet. These were all taken with my iPhone and are not sterling quality. Most were tweaked in Photoshop so you can see things better. I apologize for any harsh color shifts or lighting on some images. I was intending these to be for personal use but thought many of you would enjoy them. Here’s the link.

 

http://www.pbase.com/ehansmann/2016_rpm_chicagoland

 

I was unable to tag one image with the modelers’ name. It is the only image beginning with IMG. If anyone can pass that info along, I’d be happy to update the details on the file. 

 

Thanks again to Mike Skibbe and his crew for a solid event!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX




Re: Models at Naperville

Tim O'Connor
 


Jack Spencer was at St Louis - he had a bunch of his typically gorgeous
models, but without the wonderful accompanying photo albums that he often
brought to Naperville. Dan Holbrook was also at St Louis and had about 20
or more models. Dan used to display lots of models at Naperville but I think
many post-STMFC era modelers eventually decided that the Naperville crowd was
too narrowly focused on the STMFC era. I'd say the majority of models in
St Louis were post-STMFC era, but there was good representation from all eras.

The clinics at St Louis even included a seminar on software implementation of
crossing gates using an Arduino PC. These fully functional PC's can be bought
for as little as $5 (!!!) and almost anyone who can use email can learn to use
them. For many younger modelers computers are just a fact of life now and many
great modeling projects are possible with electronics and software (JMRI etc)

Tim O'Connor








I personally felt that there were more models this year than last.  Last year seemed to be very sparce in this area.

The absence of some very prolithic modelers no doubt was a factor.  John Spencer who put the extreme in "Extreme Modelers" has not been there for several years.  He contributed models, documentation and excellemt clinics. John Johnson who has won numerous NMRA contests and has always bought numerous new models each year was not in attendance. There were other notables who were MIA.

I know that eveyone had solid reasons for not attending.  My intention is to let them know that they wdre missed.

Bill Pardie


2016 RPM Chicagoland gallery

Eric Hansmann
 

I have uploaded a passel of images from the recent RPM Chicagoland meet. These were all taken with my iPhone and are not sterling quality. Most were tweaked in Photoshop so you can see things better. I apologize for any harsh color shifts or lighting on some images. I was intending these to be for personal use but thought many of you would enjoy them. Here’s the link.

 

http://www.pbase.com/ehansmann/2016_rpm_chicagoland

 

I was unable to tag one image with the modelers’ name. It is the only image beginning with IMG. If anyone can pass that info along, I’d be happy to update the details on the file.

 

Thanks again to Mike Skibbe and his crew for a solid event!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


Re: FW: Request to join STMFC denied

Tim O'Connor
 


With EVERY Yahoo group, if you want to contact the OWNER of the group
directly, send an email to

   -OWNER@...

Anyone can do this, you don't have to belong to the group. If the owner
has turned off "pending event" emails, they may be completely unaware that
someone wants to join the group!

As the Sheriff has said, his jail is not a place you want to be... Nor,
evidently, is the office waiting room.

Tim O'


Re: Aberdeen TH&B Decals

Chet
 

Bill,


I purchased two THB 8703 sets, and was satisfied with them.  They were for the

paint and lettering scheme that was used just prior to the yellow and black scheme.


Chet French

Dixon, IL


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Mansell Peter Hambly
 




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Models at Naperville

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


I personally felt that there were more models this year than last.  Last year seemed to be very sparce in this area.

The absence of some very prolithic modelers no doubt was a factor.  John Spencer who put the extreme in "Extreme Modelers" has not been there for several years.  He contributed models, documentation and excellemt clinics.
John Johnson who has won numerous NMRA
contests and has always bought numerous new models each year was not in attendance.
There were other notables who were MIA.

I know that eveyone had solid reasons for not attending.  My intention is to let them know that they wdre missed.

Bill Pardie



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Re: Additional Naperville Note

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Morning Dick:

It's always good to see you at one of the meets.  You bring a,wealth of informatoon to the table.

In reviewing my notes I seem to have missed your recommendation on which kit to use as a starting point for the R-30-12 PFE refers.
I recently csme actoss some great photos and although I never considered doing this car it would be a nice addition.

Thanks again for all of your contributions to the hobby.

Bill


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Dick Harley dick.harley4up@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
Date: 10/24/16 2:03 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Additional Naperville Note

 

Nelson Moyer wished for more light on the models.

Maybe we need to start carrying a small LED flashlight - now cheap, small and light weight.
And, of course, many cell phones can be used as a flash light.

The white table clothes helped a lot compared to the black ones.

Just a thought,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach, CA

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