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Making Decals

Paul Hillman
 

I believe I've seen on this list before talk about making our own decals. I've seen decal paper from Testors, Micro-Mark & others.

I have a Kodak "Office Hero 6.1" Ink-Jet printer. What are your suggestions for making our own decals. (Not White)


Thanks, Paul Hillman



Re: Please identify truck?

brianleppert@att.net
 

I'll agree with everything Dennis Storzek has written about this truck.  For built dates, I can add some cabooses shown in Morning Sun's L&N Color Guide, vol. 2, are said to be built in 1921 and 1924 with these trucks.  Could this caboose truck be unique to L&N?

There was also a freight version of this later T-section side frame truck.  Pere Marquette had house cars with them built in 1917, 1922, 1923 and 1926.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Re: Atlas 52' gondolas in H0 scale?

Tim O'Connor
 


It's true but the Athearn model does represent a fixed end gondola, while
model manufacturers seem to be obsessed with drop end mill gondolas. So anyway
I had this old Bev-Bel decorated blue box kit and decided to do a one evening
project instead of tossing it out...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/30041891514/

Tim O'Connor





No prototype for the Athearn gondolas, also their Atlas and Cox versions.   Model gondola is nominal 50 feet long, an uncommon or nonexistent prototype length; in order to have common parts with their 50' flat car, another model suffering from prototype deprivation.

The side stakes over the trucks do not line up with the span bolster, a visual offence to all those who know these structural parts should line up.

I have banished my few Athearn gondola survivors to unlettered dirty dented steel mill intraplant service.

Had to make a value judgment years ago, I chose to have a few expensive accurate gondolas such as Proto2000 or Tangent, than a fat larger fleet of Athearn gondolas for US$5 each from local swap meets.



Crew needed for Alma branch trains 95/96 on Sunday, November 6th

Jared Harper
 

Needed:  one person to fill out the crew on Santa Fe's Alma branch trains 95/96 on Sunday, November 6th.  The op session begins at noon for lunch.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606
706-543-8821


Re: Atlas 52' gondolas in H0 scale?

Jim Mischke
 



To further address your question, Tom ....


No prototype for the Athearn gondolas, also their Atlas and Cox versions.   Model gondola is nominal 50 feet long, an uncommon or nonexistent prototype length; in order to have common parts with their 50' flat car, another model suffering from prototype deprivation.


The side stakes over the trucks do not line up with the span bolster, a visual offence to all those who know these structural parts should line up.


I have banished my few Athearn gondola survivors to unlettered dirty dented steel mill intraplant service.


Had to make a value judgment years ago, I chose to have a few expensive accurate gondolas such as Proto2000 or Tangent, than a fat larger fleet of Athearn gondolas for US$5 each from local swap meets.



Re: Gondolas in Scrap tin service

Jim Mischke
 


B&O had several in the 1930's and 1940's, for service on the far east end of the system.  American Can might have been the shipper.   Cars known to exist by description, not photos, these cars did not roam nor inhabit other lines..



Re: Atlas 52' gondolas in H0 scale?

Ernest G Sanchez
 

I believe that the atlas gondola is
An athearn gondola that was assembled
And repackaged under the
Atlas name for use in train sets.
The Cox company did this with 
Some of their cars as well. 


On Oct 30, 2016, at 9:34 AM, BROTVL@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I've tried to search the "archive" for information on these cars to no avail, so please bear with me for asking.

Is there a prototype for the model and if so, who was using these?

When were they made?


Is there a prototype for this vehicle and if so, who did this?
When were they made?
Kind regardsTom LarsenHolte, Denmark


Re: Wood Pulp

Eric Hansmann
 

Bob,

Would this be the specialty paper mill in Chagrin Falls? If so, it did not have direct rail service. A truck was used to transport material to and from the small W&LE terminal a few blocks away. 

I have a few images and other details to send off line if this is the operation of your interest.


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


On October 30, 2016 at 8:01 AM "oandle@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

Hi Guys!

  I've been researching a paper mill that operated in Northeast Ohio from 1900's to the mid 80s. The mill originally used rags and wood for their pulp but in the 20's started using wood pulp imported from Scandinavia.  Any ideas how this pulp was shipped from the port to the mill? Was it dry and in bags or in a slurry and shipped via tank cars? TIA for any info.

Bob Weston


Atlas 52' gondolas in H0 scale?

Tom Larsen
 

I've tried to search the "archive" for information on these cars to no avail, so please bear with me for asking.

Is there a prototype for the model and if so, who was using these?

When were they made?


Is there a prototype for this vehicle and if so, who did this?
When were they made?
Kind regardsTom LarsenHolte, Denmark


Wood Pulp

Bob Weston
 

Hi Guys!

  I've been researching a paper mill that operated in Northeast Ohio from 1900's to the mid 80s. The mill originally used rags and wood for their pulp but in the 20's started using wood pulp imported from Scandinavia.  Any ideas how this pulp was shipped from the port to the mill? Was it dry and in bags or in a slurry and shipped via tank cars? TIA for any info.

Bob Weston


Re: Front Range 40' Double door

William Dale
 

Dave,
      I don't know if your Front Range kits are welded or riveted, but way back in the day in Railmodel Journal 6/92 had an article on an ACF prototype.  They used a C&BT riveted car body for the project, 4/4 interim improved Dreadnaught ends, Murphy rectangular panel roof, 14' double doors, 10'6" IH,  and with added details yielded a car for the GM&O, L&N, and UP.

Bill Dale


Re: HO kits for sale- updated list

Greg Martin
 

Brian,

I am looking for a couple of Red Caboose 40-foot double door boxcars, would you hve a couple unbuilt any road name.

Thanks,

Greg Martin

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail




On Saturday, October 29, 2016 'Brian Carlson' prrk41361 <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

As I mentioned a few months ago I am helping to liquidate a deceased friend’s collection. I have more “Craftsman” (IM, Red Caboose, Proto etc,) kits that may be of interest kits along with a many RTR models. There are a ton of shake the box kits (Athearn/MDC/Accurail etc) but I don’t have a list of those, it would take until Christmas.  If you’d like the list email me OFF LIST at prrk41361 at Yahoo.com. Kits are no more than $8, and RTR are $10. USPS Priority Mail Shipping will be added. Now that everything has been sorted, I can say there is no resin.  There is a stash of Des Plaines kits both Viking roof and a few others they offered back in the day.

 

Here’s the kicker we are having a train show on Saturday November 5th here in Buffalo where we will be selling all of my friend’s stuff, It is open to the public so if you are in the area I can give you more information off list. The reason I am mentioning this is I need to know of any interest in the models by 12 noon on Friday November 4th so I can pull the models from the stuff going to the show.

 

I also have a ton of vintage HO models, Varney, etc that will probably never sell. Many are still new in the box. I know some of you (Dr. Denny comes to mind) enjoy assembling old models so again contact me off list and we can discuss.

 

Since these are not my models some ground rules here in the main message.  While I use PayPal extensively we don&# 8217;t have an account set up for the Trust and to keep things simple Payment must be made by good check, money order or cash.  (If you are interested in many models and must use paypal contact me to discuss) All models are sold as-is with no warranties expressed or implied.  All models are sold on a first come first served basis.  Checks and money orders must be made payable to B&E Irrevocable Trust.

 

Remember off list since I don’t want to eat the jail food.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

Prrk41361 “at” yahoo.com

 


HO kits for sale- updated list

Brian Carlson
 

As I mentioned a few months ago I am helping to liquidate a deceased friend’s collection. I have more “Craftsman” (IM, Red Caboose, Proto etc,) kits that may be of interest kits along with a many RTR models. There are a ton of shake the box kits (Athearn/MDC/Accurail etc) but I don’t have a list of those, it would take until Christmas.  If you’d like the list email me OFF LIST at prrk41361 at Yahoo.com. Kits are no more than $8, and RTR are $10. USPS Priority Mail Shipping will be added. Now that everything has been sorted, I can say there is no resin.  There is a stash of Des Plaines kits both Viking roof and a few others they offered back in the day.

 

Here’s the kicker we are having a train show on Saturday November 5th here in Buffalo where we will be selling all of my friend’s stuff, It is open to the public so if you are in the area I can give you more information off list. The reason I am mentioning this is I need to know of any interest in the models by 12 noon on Friday November 4th so I can pull the models from the stuff going to the show.

 

I also have a ton of vintage HO models, Varney, etc that will probably never sell. Many are still new in the box. I know some of you (Dr. Denny comes to mind) enjoy assembling old models so again contact me off list and we can discuss.

 

Since these are not my models some ground rules here in the main message.  While I use PayPal extensively we don’t have an account set up for the Trust and to keep things simple Payment must be made by good check, money order or cash.  (If you are interested in many models and must use paypal contact me to discuss) All models are sold as-is with no warranties expressed or implied.  All models are sold on a first come first served basis.  Checks and money orders must be made payable to B&E Irrevocable Trust.

 

Remember off list since I don’t want to eat the jail food.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY

Prrk41361 “at” yahoo.com

 


Re: Please identify truck?

destorzek@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <Rhbale@...> wrote :

You are looking at a Bettendorf L-section 30-ton caboose truck manufactured by the Bettendorf Axle Company of Bettendorf, Iowa. The L-section is a clue that it was likely made between 1903 and 1908. After that date most Bettendorf trucks were cast with T-section frames. By 1920 almost all had U-section frames which is still used today.
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I completely disagree. Both the 1909 and 1916 CBC show drawings of the Bettendorf swing motion caboose truck of the time, and they have T section sideframes. Furthermore, they have structural steel (channel section) transoms riveted to the side frames. The unitized floating bolster package, which the truck Chuck is showing us has, was a later development. The truck in Chuck's pix is likely one of the last iterations before they went to a U section sideframe, and likely dates to the late teens. The U section sideframe is first shown in the 1922 CBC, IIRC.

Dennis Storzek


Gondolas in Scrap tin service

Brad Andonian
 

Fellas
 
I am seeking info on what other eastern roads had scrap tin gondolas with side extensions.     I have heard that W&LE may have, but would appreciate clarification and confirmation with car data if possible.   I have images of such car for the SP out west....
 
Thank you,
Brad Andonian


Re: new Accurail box car

destorzek@...
 


Should have test shots of the floor / underframe next week... Finally. Shouldn't be too much longer after that.

Dennis Storzek

---In STMFC@..., <ed_mines@...> wrote :

Anyone know when this is now scheduled to arrive?


ed mines


Re: Paperwork for Sunshine SFRD Rr-18 #89 series of kits

Bill Welch
 

Help Received on This

Bill Welch


new Accurail box car

ed_mines
 

Anyone know when this is now scheduled to arrive?


ed mines


Paperwork for Sunshine SFRD Rr-18 #89 series of kits

Bill Welch
 

I am enjoying reading Speedwitch's Vol. 6 "Focus on Freight Cars" that includes several good photos of the SFRD's Rr-18 class. I had forgotten about this interesting wood-sheathed version of the SFRD's rebuilding of their USRA based reefers and was pleased that I had one of Sunshine's 89.1-.7 kits in my stash. Of course I had to look at the castings that are based on pattern's done by Charlie Slater. I had to wonder about the paperwork however as the only instructions are for Sunshine's steel rebuilds and there is no Prototype History or PDS in the box. I may have lost them.


If anyone can provide me with info about what I should have and perhaps scan them and send them to me. please contact me offline at fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com


Thank you,

Bill Welch


Re: Please identify truck?

destorzek@...
 

There was a LOT of variation in Bettendorf sideframe design. Since they were developing new technology (cast sideframes) every time a problem surfaced they would make a design change to deal with it. The original Bettendorf side frame design was almost a true diamond shape with the journal boxes appended to the ends, outside the intersection of the top and bottom chords. This was prone to cracking, and was then modified with additional ribs that extended out over the tops of the boxes, which the Kadee truck models. The trucks Chuck is asking about must be a later design yet, as the boxes have been more fully integrated into the sideframe truss.

Overland Models has made a lot of different caboose trucks in brass. The ones used under their DSS&A caboose have the rounded bottom chord, but still have the extra ribs over the boxes, as that is what was on that prototype:
BRASSTRAINS.COM - HO Brass Model Train - OMI 3949.1 DSS&A South Shore Shorty Wood Sheath Caboose #584

There were also these, which appear to have the more tightly integrated journal boxes, but lack the curved bottom chord:

http://www.overlandmodels.com/images/trains/AB-1102_main_large.jpg

 

There may have been others. The problem with Overland trucks is finding them separate from the caboose.


Good Luck.


Dennis Storzek

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