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Prototype Rails 2017 at Cocoa Beach

Mikebrock
 

With the coming of winter [ in areas north of Florida ] it is time to
celebrate that famous day in history.the start of another Prototype
Rails.the RPM meet in Cocoa Beach, FL. This will be our 17TH year.all done
at the same Hilton Ocean Front Hotel. We now have the first list of
clinicians which is included on the attached flyer. I expect some additions
as we proceed.



Mike Brock


PRR Depressed Center Flat Cars

thecitrusbelt@...
 

The links below are to photos from the Huntington Library's Digital Archives (http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/). They show a rough drawing and a partial image of a PRR depressed center flat car, plus another image of an unidentified depressed center flat car. The two photos were taken on 1/7/1928.

 

PRR F-29 Rough Drawing

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/24199/rec/3

 

PRR 435491 F-28

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/24191/rec/1180

 

Unknown Depressed Center Flatcar

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/24190/rec/1178

 

Use the slider above the images to enlarge them.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: Los Angeles Produce District Scene

Paul Koehler
 

Bob:

 

If you enlarge the photo you will see the overhead wires.  This area was switched by the Pacific Electric.

 

Paul C. Koehler

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 10:26 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Los Angeles Produce District Scene

 

 

The link below is to a photo from the Huntington Library's Digital Archives (http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/). It shows a very busy produce terminal (not for the claustrophobic) in the 1940s with trucks, reefers and boxcars all crowded together.

 

I'm going to guess that the cars were switched at night.

 

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15150coll2/id/17577/rec/974

 

Use the slider above the image to enlarge the photo.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Los Angeles Produce District Scene

thecitrusbelt@...
 

The link below is to a photo from the Huntington Library's Digital Archives (http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/). It shows a very busy produce terminal (not for the claustrophobic) in the 1940s with trucks, reefers and boxcars all crowded together.

 

I'm going to guess that the cars were switched at night.

 

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15150coll2/id/17577/rec/974

 

Use the slider above the image to enlarge the photo.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: WABASH Photos: Helium car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Steve and List Members,
 
Thanks Steve for the good summary.
 
I will add that a builders photo of USQX 201 can be found in Mainline Modeler Dec1986 pg39. I believe one of the TSC books I own also has the same builders photo as well.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 8:02 AM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] WABASH Photos: Helium car

USQX 202 was built by Bethlehem Steel, 1927, and was one of 2 cars that were the first Army Helium 3-tube cars (201, 202) The Navy (USNX 1001) had one 3 tube car built by Bethlehem in 1926. These were poorly modeled by Lionel, complete with a dumper to dump the tanks like a bunch of logs.

 

The more traditional looking helium cars began with GATC 28 tube cars in 1930, USNX 1002-1006. I have an early wood kit for this one. It was offerred under several names. Mine comes from Universal Models.

 

There were 7-8 versions of the 30 tube cars modeled by AHM, Ambroid, NWSL, and Pecos River. These came from GATC, ACF, Darby, and Magor over a period of 30 years.

 

 

__________________________________________________

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 1:25 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] WABASH Photos some are freight cars

 

 

     The photo does look like the earliest helium cars, but Pintsch gas tanks in that era looked similar.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com

(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...

Publishers of books on railroad history

 

 

 

 


Re: WABASH Photos: Helium car

Steve SANDIFER
 

USQX 202 was built by Bethlehem Steel, 1927, and was one of 2 cars that were the first Army Helium 3-tube cars (201, 202) The Navy (USNX 1001) had one 3 tube car built by Bethlehem in 1926. These were poorly modeled by Lionel, complete with a dumper to dump the tanks like a bunch of logs.

 

The more traditional looking helium cars began with GATC 28 tube cars in 1930, USNX 1002-1006. I have an early wood kit for this one. It was offerred under several names. Mine comes from Universal Models.

 

There were 7-8 versions of the 30 tube cars modeled by AHM, Ambroid, NWSL, and Pecos River. These came from GATC, ACF, Darby, and Magor over a period of 30 years.

 

 

__________________________________________________

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 1:25 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] WABASH Photos some are freight cars

 

 

     The photo does look like the earliest helium cars, but Pintsch gas tanks in that era looked similar.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com

(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...

Publishers of books on railroad history

 

 

 

 


Re: CofG 10701 progress

Justin May
 

The provided K brakes included with the kit.

Justin May

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Todd Horton toddchorton@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Justin, what brake system did you use on this car?
 
Todd Horton



From: "Justin May westpointroute@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: CofG Modeler's List <cofgmodeler@...>; STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:02 PM
Subject: [STMFC] CofG 10701 progress

 
List,
For those interested in following my progress on the Central of Georgia flat car based on the Tichy model, I've recently completed some more progress.
The model should be completed tomorrow with better photos of the model on rails.
Justin May






Re: CofG 10701 progress

Todd Horton
 

Justin, what brake system did you use on this car?
 
Todd Horton



From: "Justin May westpointroute@... [STMFC]"
To: CofG Modeler's List ; STMFC
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:02 PM
Subject: [STMFC] CofG 10701 progress

 
List,
For those interested in following my progress on the Central of Georgia flat car based on the Tichy model, I've recently completed some more progress.
The model should be completed tomorrow with better photos of the model on rails.
Justin May



Re: CofG 10701 progress

O Fenton Wells
 

Looks very nice, thanks for sharing
Fenton Wells

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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRR X29D

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Jeff;

Yes, aside from brake gear, there were X29D that had: a) all high tackboards; b) a mix of high tack boards on ends and low ones on the doors, and c) all low tack boards. The latter two were during the period where they were changing over from high to low, and some got a mix. There were also X29D in dedicated service that had racks, and rivets through the side sheets where they were attached. I have never seen any evidence of any other detail differences, but you never know. This was the Pennsy!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
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Mike and Rich, thank you for your answers. I did not know they had physical differences in the ends. Are there any other physical differences?




Jeff Drennan


Re: PRR X29D

jdcellarmod@...
 

Mike and Rich, thank you for your answers. I did not know they had physical differences in the ends. Are there any other physical differences?


Jeff Drennan


Re: Late 1950s MILW auto box cars

Dave Sarther
 

George did an awesome job on this ubiquitous style of combination door cars. The CB&Q, GN,NP and CNW also had 40'combination door cars. For more information on the NP cars review the 2012 Summer Issue of the Mainstreeter, the NP Historical Society quarterly. For more in depth information about the GN cars review the 2012 Summer Issue of GNRHS Modelers' Pages.
While the NP had two versions of the 40' Combo Door cars built by PS and their own shops, the GN had three versions of these cars built by the GN Shops and AC&F and the CB&Q had only one version all built in their Havelock Shops. The CB&Q cars have the same offset grabs on the plug door side ends as the Milw Rd cars that George built. Chad Boas also has the parts necessary to build any of the CB&Q, NP or GN 40' Combo Door Cars. The CB&Q, NP and GN cars lasted from their building in the late 1950's into the BN merger days and beyond in many cases.


George and Eric thanks for bringing these unique but ubiquitous cars used for hauling grain and lumber forward for the modelers on this forum to see.


Later, Dave Sarther Tucson, AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...>
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Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2016 6:25 am
Subject: [STMFC] Late 1950s MILW auto box cars







George Toman has shared techniques he used to transform a couple of plastic box car kits to reflect specific prototypes. Check out the latest from George on the Resin Car Works blog.
http://blog.resincarworks.com/a-milwaukee-road-automobile-box-car-with-chad-boas-resin-parts/





Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


CofG 10701 progress

Justin May
 

List,

For those interested in following my progress on the Central of Georgia flat car based on the Tichy model, I've recently completed some more progress.

http://georgiarailroad.blogspot.com/2016/11/cofg-10701-progress.html

The model should be completed tomorrow with better photos of the model on rails.

Justin May


SEABOARD General Arrangement drawings

rwitt_2000
 

Seaboard auto box cars rebuilt from gondolas.

1930s Seaboard Airline Railroad Bluepri...

Bid: $49.99

This eBay seller has two others available: 70-Ton cement hopper and a low-side gondola.

Bob Witt



Re: WABASH Photos some are freight cars

Tony Thompson
 

     The photo does look like the earliest helium cars, but Pintsch gas tanks in that era looked similar.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: Ventilator Hoods On Refrigerator Cars

Tony Thompson
 

     In my interview with Earl Hopkins, retired CMO for PFE, he said that in the 1930s, any remaining hoods were being removed and scrapped. He said the relatively light steel sheet used to build them did not hold up well, and they became increasingly bent and distorted during their lives, a headache for maintenance and operation alike.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: WABASH Photos some are freight cars

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Earl,

The Navy was still flying blimps until about 1960. Both the Navy and the Air Force used helium to list weather balloons.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 11/7/16 8:02 AM, 'Earl Tuson' etuson@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Tim asks,

> Bob is there any chance those could be HYDROGEN gas tanks? The 1931 date
> of the photo is years before the Hindenburg disaster in New Jersey.

The US Navy swore off Hydrogen after the Roma went down in 1922. They had started using helium with the C-7 in 1921
(the Shenandoah came shortly after.) All info from Wikipedia...

If a complete list of where the Army & Navy airships were stationed were available, I suppose additional helium car models
could be justified by 1920's & 1930's era modelers.

Earl Tuson



Re: WABASH Photos some are freight cars

Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thanks Bob for bringing our attention to this site. It has some great images, although I will say the site sometimes taxes my patience and also taxes my ancient computer's abilities.
 
One of my favorite images is linked below, a great yard shot:
 
 
 
A better, higher resolution image can be seen at the link below:
 
 
 
 
So much to see in this image!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 8:19 PM
Subject: [STMFC] WABASH Photos some are freight cars

Found this web site and I don't recall any prior references to it. The images are from the photo files of the Herald & Review newspaper of Decatur, Illinois.

http://herald-review.com/search/?q=Wabash+Railroad&sd=desc&l=10&t=image&nsa=eedition

Bob Witt

Specific Freight Car images:

Wabash cars 1960.jpg

 

Wabash piggyback 1956.jpg

 

Wabash rail 1933.jpg

 

Wabash car 4100 1944.jpg

 




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Red Cab RC 8015-5 NKP 17603 40' boxcar assembled

Red Cab RC 8059 W&LE 23284 40' boxcar assembled

Des Plaines(IMWX) #113 NKP 15153 40' Viking roof boxcar assembled


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PRR 220838

destorzek@...
 

I know this isn't a collector's site, but this may be of interest to some...

Railway Preservation News • View topic - Re: PRR H31 Saved, 2-Bay Hopper - Restored

 

Dennis Storzek

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