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Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail

Douglas Harding
 

Don is correct on the location. There is actually 9 photos of Christmas trees being unloaded at displayed at Charlestown Mass, available from https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/

Just search for Christmas Trees.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Searching for photos D&RGW 30050-30099

Mark Hemphill
 

Check your email, Tim.

Speaking of D&RGW gons, I am looking for photos of these:

D&RGW 55250-55449, GB, 53'6 70-ton, 13-rib riveted, 3 PS ends, PS 1949

Mark Hemphill


Re: Pacific Creosoting Company In down town, Creosote, CA

Paul Krueger
 

Yes, I was able to confirm the rail barge landing at Port Gamble.  I found a photo of it from the future (1977).

Paul

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA
 
https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/shorephotos/yr1970/Kitsap/hi_res/KIT0677_322.jpg

 


Resin kits for sale

Jim Hayes
 

I have 18 more resin kits to sell. Some new, some not. Sunshine, Speedwitch, Smoky Mountain/SRHA, West Shore Line, Wright Track, Sylvan, Rail Shop, NEB&W, and one F&C.


Jim


WESTERFIELD MODELS Newsletter, Vol 5, No 4, November/December, 2016

dahminator68
 

Hello Steam Era Modeler:
 
We are pleased to announce that Westerfield Models is releasing a NEW KIT Series:  12500, S-40-1 Pressed Steel Underframe Stock Car.

Kit #12500 Series Available Nov 30, 2016.

Our newest HO scale Kit release is the S-40-1 Stock car for Union Pacific and UP subsidiaries Los Angeles & Salt Lake 9LA&SL) and Oregon Short Line (OSL).  These 36' 6" fishbelly side frame stock cars, sometimes referred to as Harriman Standard design cars, were built in 1905.  They were delivered with archbar trucks and lettering for UP subsidiaries, with SPLA&SL (Later just LA&SL) receiving 193 single deck cars and OSL receiving 300 double deck cars.  These cars had four distinct periods of existence, all of which are covered by our Kit versions.   We make the Original version (1905 to around 1913), Safety Appliance Version (about 1913 to around 1925), the Rebuilt version (about 1925 to 1939) and the modern version (1939 to 1951).  Many of the cars were rebuilt or changed before our dates, so there are many periods where cars of different versions could be operated at the same time.  The S-40-2 and S-40-3 Versions will be released soon.  Our versions come with many details, some specific to each Kit version:

Cast Urethane Resin stock car body parts with fine details.
Side castings without tow staples/jacking pads (S-40-2/3 Kits will have these)
Integral One-Piece Roof casting with board-by-board wood roof detail.
Urethane castings of detail parts, including car specific parts such as 7 vertical slat side doors, large side fascias.
Side and End Fascia boards and lettering placards for different versions and eras.
Yarmouth Etched Bronze Carmer Cut Levers and Etched Bronze Side Steps.
Rebuilt/Modern Versions can be modeled without end doors on A, B or both ends.
Car can be modeled with Side Doors open or closed.
UP Railroad Roman Proprietary Decals covering the Original, Safety Appliance and Rebuilt versions.
UP Gothic Proprietary Decals covering the Modern 1939 version.
Decals include several car numbers, car weights, dates, locations and repacked dates.
Detailed Instruction and History sheets with many step by step and finished photographs
Available with Tahoe Trucks, code 110 or 088.  (Kadee Couplers available separately).

These are available direct from Westerfield Models for $39.00 (Single Deck) and $40.00 (Double Deck) each plus shipping.   Operating Era for #12500 Series:  1905-1951

KIT #12501:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Single Deck, Original, Large Side/End Fascia, End Placards, SPLA&SL, Op Era 1905-1913,  $39.00
KIT #12502:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Double Deck, Original, Large Side/End Fascia, End Placards, OSL, Op Era 1905-1913,        $40.00
KIT #12521:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Single Deck, Safety Appliances, Large Side/End Fascia, LA&SL, Op Era 1913-1925, $39.00
KIT #12522:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Double Deck, Safety Appliances, Large Side/End Fascia, OSL, Op Era 1913-1925,   $40.00
KIT #12551:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Single Deck, Rebuilt, Small Side Fascia/No End Fascia, LA&SL (UP), Op Era 1925-1939, $39.00
KIT #12552:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Double Deck, Rebuilt, Small Side Fascia/No End Fascia, OSL (UP), Op Era 1925-1939,   $40.00
KIT #12561:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Single Deck, Modern, No Fascia, No End Doors/A End Door Only, UP (LA&SL), Op Era 1939-1951, $39.00
KIT #12562:  S-40-1 Stock Car, Pressed Stl U/F, Double Deck, Modern, No Fascia, No End Doors/A End Door Only, UP (OSL), Op Era 1939-1951,   $40.00
KIT #12581:  S-40-1 Stock Car with Tahoe Model Works TMW-103 AC&F Archbar Trucks and Intermountain Code 110 Wheels, Choose Version, $45.00
KIT #12582:  S-40-1 Stock Car with Tahoe Model Works TMW-203 AC&F Archbar Trucks and Intermountain Code 088 Wheels, Choose Version, $46.00.

All of our New Kits will be available on our Website Secure Model Store, New Kit Releases category:  https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/index.php?cPath=262

Please also note that our #5200/5300/5400 Series S-40-4/5/6/8/9/10 Stock cars are also available:  https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/index.php?cPath=130

Our new Integral One-Piece Roof for our S-40-1 Rebuilt/Modern Kits will also fit the 5200/5300/5400 Kits.
This new roof is #12541 and is $5.00 ea and is available separately under the One-Piece Roof Frame category on our Secure Model Store.
We also have a new One-Piece Roof Frame for #6800/6900 Series Kits:  #6840,  $4.00 ea.

We have also made some short videos of each of the #12500 Series Kits available on our YouTube Page.
Please use the following link to view them:    https://www.youtube.com/my_videos?o=U

All of our Kits are available at our secure website:   westerfieldmodels.com

Westerfield Models is also having a 20% Off sale on our Ready to Ship Kits from Dec 10 TO Dec 31, 2016, OR until the Kits run out.  See our website, main page "Ready To Ship Kits" for the Kits available.
These Kits must be ordered separately and this sale only applies to Kits listed on the Ready to Ship list.  Use Coupon Code:  READYKITSALE.  Please note that this sale ends 12-31-2016 or when the Kits run out.

Westerfield Kits include new HO scale unpainted urethane castings, and are complete with quality details, detailed instruction/history sheets 
and proprietary decals covering all versions of the prototype car.   Trucks and couplers are not included but are available separately.  Please see below

Westerfield Models is available for custom casting work.  We can make castings from your patterns, both from your custom masters or your 3D printed masters.  Please see our Website, Main Page "Custom Castings" for more information.  Link to page:  http://westerfieldmodels.com/116622.html

Westerfield Models now has a Facebook and YouTube page where we post photos and videos of our new projects and Modelers photos of completed or in process Westerfield Model Freight cars.
Please send us your photos and videos of your completed or in process Westerfield Model Kits, along with a description of your work, details used, painting methods, etc.
Please send to our email:  westerfieldmodels@....
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Thank you,
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Searching for photos D&RGW 30050-30099

Tim O'Connor
 

These 65 foot AAR gondolas built by Pressed Steel in 1944 were
on the roster until the mid 1970's when they were sold to the Alaska
Railroad. I've seen photos of the Alaska cars, but I've never seen a
photo of one of the cars in Rio Grande paint.

Thanks for any help! :-)

Tim O'Connor


Re: KCS post-war rebuild

 

Jeff, They had the 1/3/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends, Rolling Pin Taper

Rich Christie


On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:47 AM, "jdcellarmod@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Hi all,

This is for series 15500-15599. I have the three modeling articles (RMC 3/09 & 4/09 & Mainline 4/92). Also have RP CYC #24. What I do not have is a picture of the ends. In the RPC photo you can see the bracket for the cut lever does drop below the side sill. In the model photos and drawing all you see is a flat end on the sill and an eyelet for the lever. Does anyone have additional information on the ends? Any and all info would be appreciated. Thank You

Jeff Drennan



Re: REA Green

John Sykes III
 

Thanks Greg.

-- John


Re: Pacific Creosoting Company In down town, Creosote, CA

Chuck Soule
 

I distinctly remember a barge landing and railcars at  Port Gamble.  I could probably did up a photo somewhere.  Not sure if it was maintained by the Mill or by a railroad.

Chuck Soule


Re: REA Green

Greg Martin
 

John,
 
Never surrender... Look in the Mr Hobby/Mr. Color paint selection.
 
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 11/23/2016 4:10:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
 

I'll give it a try!


-- John


photoetchers

ed_mines
 

thanks to those who answered my question about custom photoetchers.


ed mines


D&H Seley hopper

Eric Hansmann
 

What do you do if you need a few dozen of an iconic freight car that is not available? Why not collaborate with others to produce it? Check out the story about a D&H Seley hopper model on the DesignBuildOp blog.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2016/11/25/classic-seley-hoppers/



Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX


Re: Fox; was - Re: Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail

Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
 

Thanks Dave


This appears to be a development of earlier patents which are both referred to in the application


1892 patent was US486146A

1893 patent was US505159A covering tender trucks


Aidrian




From: STMFC@... <STMFC@...> on behalf of Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC]
Sent: Friday, 25 November 2016 2:14 p.m.
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: Fox; was - Re: [STMFC] Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail
 
 

Aidrian:

As far as I know, you can find all (or at least most) U.S. Patents at the Goggle Patents web page, and read the complete justification for the patent application (and see the mechanical drawings).  You can search by key words (e.g., "Fox truck" or "Miner draft gear") and, if you have an idea of the year, you can narrow the search by date.  If you know the patent number, you might be able to get there even faster, but syntax is important.  In this case, the correct search term is  "US1160295A".  



January ops on the Alma branch

Jared Harper
 

Tony Thompson from California who is well-known expert in steam era  freight cars has asked to participate in an operating session on the Alma branch on Sunday afternoon/evening of January 8th or some time on Monday January 9th on his way back home after Cocoa Beach.  I will need two people to commit to filling out the crew.  I will take participants on a first come, first served basis.  A meal will be provided.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606
706=543=8821


Re: Fox; was - Re: Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail

Dave Parker
 

Aidrian:

As far as I know, you can find all (or at least most) U.S. Patents at the Goggle Patents web page, and read the complete justification for the patent application (and see the mechanical drawings).  You can search by key words (e.g., "Fox truck" or "Miner draft gear") and, if you have an idea of the year, you can narrow the search by date.  If you know the patent number, you might be able to get there even faster, but syntax is important.  In this case, the correct search term is  "US1160295A".  Here is the direct link:




Dave Parker
Riverside, CA




On Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:06 PM, "Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton smokeandsteam@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 

Fox bogies(trucks) were very common in what was then the British Empire and were widely used on passenger carriages before 1923.  A little bit of history can be found here:


Fox's Pressed Steel was one of the two firms that merged to form Pressed Steel Car Co -  I'd be interested to know what Pressed Steel Car Co were doing differently that allowed them to submit a fresh patent in 1910 

Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
www.gracesguide.co.uk
Samson Fox (1838-1903) of Leeds Forge Co was a British engineer, industrialist and philanthropist. 1838 July 11th. Born in Bowling, Bradford, to James and Sarah Fox ...




From: STMFC@... on behalf of Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC]
Sent: Friday, 25 November 2016 7:11 a.m.
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail
 
 
Earl:

From US patent 1,160,295 filed by the Pressed Steel Car Co. in 1910 (approved 11-16-1915):

"Trucks of the Fox type comprise essentially rigid side frames which, at their central portions, support the truck bolsters or transoms, or both, and which transmit the load therefrom to the car axles through the medium of yokes or U-shaped pedestals at the ends of the rigid side frames and which pedestals receive and are supported by springs mounted on the axle journal boxes, said pedestals also forming a bearing in which the journal boxes slide vertically.  Usually and preferably side frames are made by pressing steel plates, but sometimes they are built up of plates and commercial sections."  (my emphasis added)

The built-up trucks were not as common as the pressed-steel frame versions, but they were around.  The most notable example was their use on the NYNH&H fishbelly side-sill boxcars.

Whether we should call them Fox or "Fox" is open to debate, but both types were functionally  similar and were made by the same company (AFAIK).




Re: Fox; was - Re: Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Adrian and friends,

English Fox trucks still exist under some Festiniog/Welsh Highland passenger stock. They look quite different from the usual American Fox freight trucks, thought the floating pedestals are there.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 11/24/16 6:05 PM, Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton smokeandsteam@... [STMFC] wrote:
 


Fox bogies(trucks) were very common in what was then the British Empire and were widely used on passenger carriages before 1923.  A little bit of history can be found here:


Fox's Pressed Steel was one of the two firms that merged to form Pressed Steel Car Co -  I'd be interested to know what Pressed Steel Car Co were doing differently that allowed them to submit a fresh patent in 1910 

Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton


Re: Hooker Orange Tank car

Jared Harper
 

I would call it Hooters orange.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


---In STMFC@..., <pc66ot@...> wrote :

Can anyone tell me when the Hooker Chemical Co. began painting their tank cars Orange?

Thanks in advance.
 
Paul Catapano


Giving Thanks

John Sykes III
 

I was finishing up my dinner of turkey, dressing, sweet potatoes, cranberry sauce and the rest when I stopped to think about those service men and women who are far away from their homes and family this Thanksgiving.  I said a silent prayer that they would return home safe and sound to their families soon.


I was lucky for the eight plus years I was in the Army, that I was always stationed with my family and could drive home to NJ to see my parents, brothers, etc. during the holidays.  Sorry if this is off-topic, but . . .


-- John


Fox; was - Re: Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail

Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
 


Fox bogies(trucks) were very common in what was then the British Empire and were widely used on passenger carriages before 1923.  A little bit of history can be found here:


Fox's Pressed Steel was one of the two firms that merged to form Pressed Steel Car Co -  I'd be interested to know what Pressed Steel Car Co were doing differently that allowed them to submit a fresh patent in 1910 

Aidrian Bridgeman-Sutton
www.gracesguide.co.uk
Samson Fox (1838-1903) of Leeds Forge Co was a British engineer, industrialist and philanthropist. 1838 July 11th. Born in Bowling, Bradford, to James and Sarah Fox ...




From: STMFC@... on behalf of Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC]
Sent: Friday, 25 November 2016 7:11 a.m.
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Christmas Trees Arriving By Rail
 
 

Earl:

From US patent 1,160,295 filed by the Pressed Steel Car Co. in 1910 (approved 11-16-1915):

"Trucks of the Fox type comprise essentially rigid side frames which, at their central portions, support the truck bolsters or transoms, or both, and which transmit the load therefrom to the car axles through the medium of yokes or U-shaped pedestals at the ends of the rigid side frames and which pedestals receive and are supported by springs mounted on the axle journal boxes, said pedestals also forming a bearing in which the journal boxes slide vertically.  Usually and preferably side frames are made by pressing steel plates, but sometimes they are built up of plates and commercial sections."  (my emphasis added)

The built-up trucks were not as common as the pressed-steel frame versions, but they were around.  The most notable example was their use on the NYNH&H fishbelly side-sill boxcars.

Whether we should call them Fox or "Fox" is open to debate, but both types were functionally  similar and were made by the same company (AFAIK).


Re: Pacific Creosoting Company In down town, Creosote, CA

Paul Krueger
 

The MILW had a barge landing at Eagle Harbor specifically for Pacific Creosoting.  There was also one at Port Blakeley for the Port Blakely Mill Company.  I'm not sure about Port Gamble. 

Paul

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA

49421 - 49440 of 195468