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Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

thecitrusbelt@...
 

R. L. Kennedy wrote a good article on chalk markings. Here is the link to his article, "Chalk It Up":

 

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/CPR/general/chalk_it_up.htm

 

Tony Thompson had two blog post on this subject as well:

 

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/11/chalk-marks-and-route-cards.html

 

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/search?q=chalk

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I agree with Michael about using Prismacolor pencils. They give good results.

 

Here are some model examples (not mine):

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Model_Railroads_Of_Southern_California/conversations/messages/10241

 

One of Michael's cars is shown.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Todd Horton
 

There's  a major manufacturer that's going to release a car with factory applied chalk markings very soon. 
 
Todd Horton



From: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Microscale Chalk Marks

 
Microscale decals has added a sheet of Chalk Marks in three scale to their line:
Bill Welch




Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Michael Gross
 

While I am delighted to see Microscale has added chalk marks, my first impression is that too many of them lean toward chalk graffiti drawings, many of which are too large for anything but a box car and, IMHO, a little Bozo Texino goes a long way.  My favorite chalk marks are still the Clover House dry transfers, followed by the Sunshine and Speedwitch offerings.  I commonly use decals or dry transfers for fresh markings and the always useful Prismacolor pencil for older, faded chalk.

Michael Gross
Facebook.com/ActorMichaelGross


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Douglas Harding
 

Don if you click on the link Bill provided you would see that Microscale has printed with a blue backing paper. Very easy to see the decals on their website.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

riverman_vt@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <fgexbill@...> wrote :

Microscale decals has added a sheet of Chalk Marks in three scale to their line:

Microscale Decals: Boxcar Chalk Makrings

Bill Welch  


    The question I wold raise is can you see the darn things well enough to know what you want to

use from the decal sheet? We have had others offered lately that are damned near impossible to 

see owing to a lack of contrast with the backing paper. White decals on white backing paper is a 

fool's errand when a light blue backing could have been used. Thus a fine white pen may still be 

the best choice as well as the most original one.


Cordially, Don Valentine




 



Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

Ed Hawkins
 

Ed Hawkins hawk0621@... [STMFC] wrote:

In my list of railroads having narrow-roof CH-29's I listed ATSF 8250-82899.....
Oops, numbers should be 82500-82899.
Ed Hawkins


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

Ed Hawkins
 

Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

Ed

With the addition of these 550 cars and 2 owners (plus later mergers,
repaints, transfers), hopefully INTERMOUNTAIN can be persuaded to do
this version of the CH-29, as well as the version they've already announced.
So far RDG, SAL, MD&S, CGW, KCS all had this style CH-29. Do you know of
any others?

Tim O'Connor
Tim,
As is often the case, the answer is "it depends."

Like the discussion previously on the 3,500 cu. ft. CH-41 covered hoppers, ACF''s CH-29 cars had variations including a narrow and wide roof, the latter that extended over the side posts. The SAL/MD&S cars had the narrow-type roof. If the question is limited to cars with a narrow-type roof, to your list of road names add SHPX (several series ranging from 25941-26274, not inclusive), ATSF 8250-82899, DUPX 30001-30042, LNE 18201-18400, and CNJ 900-949. All of these cars were built from early 1956 to Dec. 1957. The LNE cars didn't stay there long and became UP 11900-12099 ca. 1959-1960.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

golden1014
 

TimO,

MD&S was an SAL subsidiary, so this car was probably delivered along with one of SAL's many similar 1958 cu. ft. orders.  I can check my rosters; there may also be a mention in RP Cyc.

MD&S merged into SAL in 1959 so no surprise in why the car "disappeared".  There may be a note in the ORERs about MD&S cars merged into Seaboard, or perhaps the numbers grew by a few from 1958 to 1959.

John Golden
Germany


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

Tim O'Connor
 

Ed

With the addition of these 550 cars and 2 owners (plus later mergers,
repaints, transfers), hopefully INTERMOUNTAIN can be persuaded to do
this version of the CH-29, as well as the version they've already announced.
So far RDG, SAL, MD&S, CGW, KCS all had this style CH-29. Do you know of
any others?

Tim O'Connor

=================================================

For those interested, the 50 MD&S covered hopper cars in question were
built by ACF as lot number 4948C with the builder photo of MD&S 6000
built 10-57.

They followed ACF's 2006 cu. ft. CH-29 design except with 36"-square
roof hatches & covers instead of round. The MD&S cars were piggy-backed
with 500 cars built to the same specs for Seaboard Air Line, 30000-30499,
in lot number 4948B. A builder photo of Seaboard 30058 has a 8-57 build date.
An in-service photo of SAL 30208 (Bob's Photo) has a 9-57 build date.

After the MD&S cars transferred full ownership to Seaboard they became
SAL 30500-30549. Specialties for the MD&S cars included Keystone
outlets, Champion-Peacock (National) hand brakes, Morton running boards
& brake steps, and 70-ton A-3 Ride Control trucks. When new the journal
box lids were painted yellow to designate Rolix Lubricators.

The Seaboard cars had a mix of outlets with Enterprise & Keystone 250
cars each (30058 and 30208 had Enterprise) and the same hand brakes,
running boards & brake steps, and trucks as the MD&S cars.
Regards, Ed Hawkins


Resin Car Works update

Eric Hansmann
 

For those of you who have placed a Resin Car Works order or plan to place one soon, we have posted an update on the RCW blog. We appreciate your patience as we work to fulfill the orders that have arrived in this busy holiday season.

 

http://blog.resincarworks.com/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy

 

 


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

Ed Hawkins
 

Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:

Bill, Tim and Y'all,

My 1958 ORER lists 27 cars in MD&S series 6000-6049. They are found as a sub-listing at the end of the Seaboard roster. One might expect to find 23 more cars with the same dimensions among the Seaboard listings, but they weren't there. These covered hoppers were all the cars still lettered MD&S at that time. Other MD&S cars such as their 91000-91009 gondolas had already been relettered for Seaboard.
STMFC,
For those interested, the 50 MD&S covered hopper cars in question were built by ACF as lot number 4948C with the builder photo of MD&S 6000 built 10-57.

They followed ACF's 2006 cu. ft. CH-29 design except with 36"-square roof hatches & covers instead of round. The MD&S cars were piggy-backed with 500 cars built to the same specs for Seaboard Air Line, 30000-30499, in lot number 4948B. A builder photo of Seaboard 30058 has a 8-57 build date. An in-service photo of SAL 30208 (Bob's Photo) has a 9-57 build date.

After the MD&S cars transferred full ownership to Seaboard they became SAL 30500-30549. Specialties for the MD&S cars included Keystone outlets, Champion-Peacock (National) hand brakes, Morton running boards & brake steps, and 70-ton A-3 Ride Control trucks. When new the journal box lids were painted yellow to designate Rolix Lubricators.

The Seaboard cars had a mix of outlets with Enterprise & Keystone 250 cars each (30058 and 30208 had Enterprise) and the same hand brakes, running boards & brake steps, and trucks as the MD&S cars.
Regards, Ed Hawkins


Microscale Chalk Marks

Bill Welch
 

Microscale decals has added a sheet of Chalk Marks in three scale to their line:

Microscale Decals: Boxcar Chalk Makrings

Bill Welch



Re: Early Steam Era pre-1921 operations

water.kresse@...
 

Dennis,

How ironic that I just found a floor plan sketch (Chf Engineer's x-drawings (8.5 x 11) to support AFE's) of the third pump house on the branchline.  It was being replaced with a new one with five foot high concrete walls in 1920 . . . . because the one built in the 1890's was destroyed by fire.

Al


From: "destorzek@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:19:06 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Early Steam Era pre-1921 operations

 




---In STMFC@..., wrote :

Thanks Dennis!  I assume it was more difficult to get going than starting a pot-belly stove?
==============

Add water, make fire, turn on valve when pressure shows on gauge. Occasionally add more water and coal.

Locomotive boilers are temperamental because they are fired very close to their maximum output, and their size and design are constrained by the limits of the loading gauge.

The typical stationary boiler is huge compared to the size of the engine it drives. There is no crown sheet; the boiler tubes run vertically through the entire water space, so they would have to run unattended a long time to run out of water. Even then, while the boiler could be damaged by firing with no water, it's not likely to explode. Anyway, I wouldn't doubt a lot of these had float type make-up water systems. You have to give the labors some credit. they were instructed how to operate the boiler and pump, and as long as they didn't fall asleep and did their job, it worked.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

riverman_vt@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote :


attn: Bill Welch !

Talk about rare and obscure Y'all shortlines, this one might take the cake!
Only found one ORER entry for 1955, before this car was built, and no listing
by 1959.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311749283432

Tim O'


    Something doesn't add up here, Tim. The M.D.& S. had a batch of gons about this
time as well. WrightTrak has offered resin kits for them and NERS carries them.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

hubert mask
 

Interesting.     That could be come a decal project 

Hubert Mask
MAsk Island Decals Inc. 


On Dec 1, 2016, at 11:24 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 


attn: Bill Welch !

Talk about rare and obscure Y'all shortlines, this one might take the cake!
Only found one ORER entry for 1955, before this car was built, and no listing
by 1959.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311749283432

Tim O'


New Items from Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver
 

Fellow modelers,
I've just added a number of new items on the Yarmouth Model Works website.
You can see them on the website proper or on my blog,
http://elgincarshops.blogspot.ca/2016/11/a-plethora-of-new-stuff-from-yarmouth.html

Thanks,

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
Welcome to Yarmouth Model Works - Yarmouth Model Works

 



Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

Bill Welch
 

Google can be your friend Tim: HawkinsRails.net - Macon, Dublin & Savannah

Bill Welch


Re: Macon Dublin & Savannah covered hopper

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bill, Tim and Y'all,

My 1958 ORER lists 27 cars in MD&S series 6000-6049. They are found as a sub-listing at the end of the Seaboard roster. One might expect to find 23 more cars with the same dimensions among the Seaboard listings, but they weren't there. These covered hoppers were all the cars still lettered MD&S at that time. Other MD&S cars such as their 91000-91009 gondolas had already been relettered for Seaboard.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 12/1/16 11:24 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 


attn: Bill Welch !

Talk about rare and obscure Y'all shortlines, this one might take the cake!
Only found one ORER entry for 1955, before this car was built, and no listing
by 1959.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311749283432

Tim O'



Selling more resin kits

Jim Hayes
 

My next sale is of miscellaneous resin kits plus one plastic kit. you can see this week's list at sunshinekits.com/sale5.pdf.

Next week probably Westerfield kits. I'm, slowly downsizing. 

Jim

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