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Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

riverman_vt@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <sarahsan@...> wrote :

Friends,

These ongoing graffito are interesting. While it wasn't in our period, I remember seeing a couple of cars which were inscribed by someone calling himself "Mahatma Indeedi", including "Mahatma Indeedi wishes you Indeed". Has anyone else ever seen this, and do you know any of the story behind it?

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Hi Garth,


    I like the one that Armand Premo and I spotted in white on a black tank car in a southbound D&H

freight at Rouses Point, NY back in the very early 1970's. It was the usual peace symbol within the 

circle below which was inscribed "Footprint of the American Chicken"! How long it had been on the 

car I don't know but it looked to have been there awhile. I suspect it is the best one either of us have

ever seen, before or since, and I still chuckle every time I think of it. YMMV


My best, Don Valentine




Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Tim O'Connor
 


Kinda defeats the whole idea of "graffiti" doesn't it? To each their own, I guess.

Tim O'Connor




There's  a major manufacturer that's going to release a car with factory applied chalk markings very soon.  Todd Horton
 

 
It's been done already by the NKPHS Branchline kit.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: NS 9347 hopper

David
 

The War Emergency requirements were relaxed in 1944, but thumbing through RPC #29 suggests March would be a bit early for the resumption of all-steel production.

Looking through RPC #29 and the 1/59 ORER doesn't reveal any stray WE hoppers.

David Thompson


Re: Southern Car and Foundry Tank Car Prototypes

David
 

Don't have road numbers, but Railway Age order summaries show 50 8050g tanks ordered in 1918, plus 70 10,000g and 150 8000g tanks in 1919.

David Thompson


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Clark Propst
 

There's  a major manufacturer that's going to release a car with factory applied chalk markings very soon.  Todd Horton
 
 
It’s been done already by the NKPHS Branchline kit.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Clark Propst
 

While I am delighted to see Microscale has added chalk marks, my first impression is that too many of them lean toward chalk graffiti drawings, many of which are too large for anything but a box car and, IMHO, a little Bozo Texino goes a long way. My favorite chalk marks are still the Clover House dry transfers, followed by the Sunshine and Speedwitch offerings. I commonly use decals or dry transfers for fresh markings and the always useful Prismacolor pencil for older, faded chalk.

Michael Gross

 
 
I agree, they mostly look like a novelty.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Microscale's chalk mark decals

Norm Buckhart
 

you should all know that Ted Culotta has brought out a much better HO chalk mark set than this new one by Microscale. In addition to that Protocraft Decals has produced Ted’s in O scale

norm buckhart


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

These ongoing graffito are interesting. While it wasn't in our period, I remember seeing a couple of cars which were inscribed by someone calling himself "Mahatma Indeedi", including "Mahatma Indeedi wishes you Indeed". Has anyone else ever seen this, and do you know any of the story behind it?

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 12/3/16 4:42 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 


I agree these are 'pictorial' graffiti, which was relatively rare. Also, bright white
is ok for a brand new chalk mark, but I prefer the light gray color used by Sunshine.

A good thing about Microscale is they usually do "spot" applications of overcoat so
you don't have to trim the pieces closely, and that speeds up the work.

I was interested in the Collosus of Roads but there are two identical examples on the
sheet. This guy was famous for signing each one with some clever quote or remark. There
are videos on Youtube covering the history of Bozo Texino, an interview with the guy who
did Collosus of Roads, and so on. The original Bozo Texino was an MP employee in San
Antonio who was actually profiled by the MP employee magazine. He was actively doing it
from the 1910's through the 1940's.

Tim O'Connor



Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Tim O'Connor
 


I agree these are 'pictorial' graffiti, which was relatively rare. Also, bright white
is ok for a brand new chalk mark, but I prefer the light gray color used by Sunshine.

A good thing about Microscale is they usually do "spot" applications of overcoat so
you don't have to trim the pieces closely, and that speeds up the work.

I was interested in the Collosus of Roads but there are two identical examples on the
sheet. This guy was famous for signing each one with some clever quote or remark. There
are videos on Youtube covering the history of Bozo Texino, an interview with the guy who
did Collosus of Roads, and so on. The original Bozo Texino was an MP employee in San
Antonio who was actually profiled by the MP employee magazine. He was actively doing it
from the 1910's through the 1940's.

Tim O'Connor




While I am delighted to see Microscale has added chalk marks, my first impression is that too many of them lean toward chalk graffiti drawings, many of which are too large for anything but a box car and, IMHO, a little Bozo Texino goes a long way.  My favorite chalk marks are still the Clover House dry transfers, followed by the Sunshine and Speedwitch offerings.  I commonly use decals or dry transfers for fresh markings and the always useful Prismacolor pencil for older, faded chalk.

Michael Gross
Facebook.com/ActorMichaelGross


ATSF Dry Ice Reefers

Bill J.
 

Recently discovered:  (1) I need 1 or 2 dry ice reefers; (2) Sunshine made four versions in kit form; and (3) they're very hard to find.


Anybody have a couple of built or unbuilt kits in any version they might part with?

Thanks -  Bill J with crossed fingers



Re: NS 9347 hopper

Tim O'Connor
 


Gee, and here I thought the built date of 3-44 and the shop date of 6-59
would have been sufficient to make this all obvious. I was not aware of any
standard offset side cars built during the War Emergency, but if there were
then this could also be a rebuild of one of those.

Tim O'Connor




According to a 1970 NSRy roster, these cars were built in 1944. I haven't found out by who, or what years the Norfolk Southern leased them.

Hopefully, the build date may provide some clue as to the builder.

They are not listed on the NSRy roster in the Jan. 1959 ORER, so may not have been acquired until after the cut-off date of this list.

Scott Haycock


 

Maybe. Could just as easily have started as a regular offset-side car. NS 9200-9399 were secondhand leased cars (probably from USRE, and probably rebuilt by them).

David Thompson


Re: NS 9347 hopper

Scott H. Haycock
 

According to a 1970 NSRy roster, these cars were built in 1944. I haven't found out by who, or what years the Norfolk Southern leased them.

Hopefully, the build date may provide some clue as to the builder. 

They are not listed on the NSRy roster in the Jan. 1959 ORER, so may not have been acquired until after the cut-off date of this list.

Scott Haycock


 

Maybe. Could just as easily have started as a regular offset-side car. NS 9200-9399 were secondhand leased cars (probably from USRE, and probably rebuilt by them).


David Thompson



Re: Southern Car and Foundry Tank Car Prototypes

Dave Parker
 

David:

Gulf did take a few hundred STC cars around 1920, as did RPX (Shell) and SHPX.

Do you know which car numbers Gulf used on cars purchased from Standard Tank Car?  I have quite a few photos of Standard Steel cars in Gulf livery, but have never seen a Gulf STC car.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: NS 9347 hopper

David
 

Maybe. Could just as easily have started as a regular offset-side car. NS 9200-9399 were secondhand leased cars (probably from USRE, and probably rebuilt by them).

David Thompson


Re: Southern Car and Foundry Tank Car Prototypes

David
 

North American's tank cars were mostly Pressed Steel cars built in the late 1920s. GATX did have some STC tanks from the various smaller fleets they bought up over the years, primarily the ~3000 STCX cars (STC's leasing arm), but that was a rather small part of the ~40,000 cars GATX had in 1950.

Standard (as with most tank builders) generally built a good number of small orders (10, 50,150 cars) but rarely over 200 cars for any one order. Gulf did take a few hundred STC cars around 1920, as did RPX (Shell) and SHPX.

David Thompson


Re: Creating a Suggested Dining List

Bill Welch
 

Past and Present Prototype Rails Attendees, please don't forget to send me your two favorite Cocoa Beach dining establishment suggestions as per my guidelines in my December 1 message. I have Nine suggestions so far and believe there must be more. I will post the first DRAFT December 7.

Remember please to send them to me offline at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com

Thank you!
Bill Welch
 


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

thecitrusbelt@...
 

R. L. Kennedy wrote a good article on chalk markings. Here is the link to his article, "Chalk It Up":

 

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/CPR/general/chalk_it_up.htm

 

Tony Thompson had two blog post on this subject as well:

 

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2011/11/chalk-marks-and-route-cards.html

 

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/search?q=chalk

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I agree with Michael about using Prismacolor pencils. They give good results.

 

Here are some model examples (not mine):

 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Model_Railroads_Of_Southern_California/conversations/messages/10241

 

One of Michael's cars is shown.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Todd Horton
 

There's  a major manufacturer that's going to release a car with factory applied chalk markings very soon. 
 
Todd Horton



From: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]"
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Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Microscale Chalk Marks

 
Microscale decals has added a sheet of Chalk Marks in three scale to their line:
Bill Welch




Re: Microscale Chalk Marks

Michael Gross
 

While I am delighted to see Microscale has added chalk marks, my first impression is that too many of them lean toward chalk graffiti drawings, many of which are too large for anything but a box car and, IMHO, a little Bozo Texino goes a long way.  My favorite chalk marks are still the Clover House dry transfers, followed by the Sunshine and Speedwitch offerings.  I commonly use decals or dry transfers for fresh markings and the always useful Prismacolor pencil for older, faded chalk.

Michael Gross
Facebook.com/ActorMichaelGross

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