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Re: B&O M-15K brake arrangement

Scott H. Haycock
 

Files start at the top of the list in chronological order. PDFs, also in chronological order, start further down, after the files.

Scott Haycock


 




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There was a reference to a entry in the file section of STMFC.  I have to admit that I have never referred to the Files
section of theis site.  When I pull it up the files are in order from the latest down.  

Re: Riveting and Welding with Archer

Bill Welch
 

Well Dennis those are the ends that came molded on the C&BT body I used and clearly stated. Did not have anything else available at the time I started.

Bill Welch

Re: finding Yahoo messages (was Re: B&O M-15K brake arrangement)

Tim O'Connor
 

Right.

And if you can expand the "full headers" of any Yahoo email, the message
identifier is embedded in the message itself. For example, the below message
that I received from Dennis has

   "Return-Path:    "X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 2554753-m146996"

which means it is message #146996 (the number 2554753 refers to me, so ignore that)

If you want to give someone a direct link to a message, use the PREFIX

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/stmfc/conversations/messages/

and then add the message ID as the SUFFIX

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/stmfc/conversations/messages/146996

Tim O'Connor

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There was a reference to a entry in the file section of STMFC.  I have to admit that I have never referred to the Files section of theis site.  When I pull it up the files are in order from the latest down.  I do not see a means of locating file #140587 without scrolling down through who knows how many files.  Is athere an indexing system that I am missing?
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I thought the message said that the file was discussed in MESSAGE #140587. I beleive you can still search "Conversations" by message number. Once you've found the message, hopefully there is a link to the file contained therein.

Dennis Storzek

Re: B&O M-15K brake arrangement

gtws00
 

Bill,
From the STMFC home page, select Conversations and too the right will be a box Message #. Put in 140587 and hit enter and it should take you to that file.

Thanks too all that have posted info for the B&O M-15k

George Toman

Re: B&O M-15K brake arrangement

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <PARDIEW001@...> wrote :


There was a reference to a entry in the file section of STMFC.  I have to admit that I have never referred to the Files
section of theis site.  When I pull it up the files are in order from the latest down.  I do not see a means of locating file #140587 without scrolling down through who knows how many files.  Is athere an indexing system that I am missing?
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I thought the message said that the file was discussed in MESSAGE #140587. I beleive you can still search "Conversations" by message number. Once you've found the message, hopefully there is a link to the file contained therein.

Dennis Storzek

Re: Riveting and Welding with Archer

Dennis Storzek
 

Bill,

Nice use of Archer rivets and other details, but WHERE did you get those misshapen ends? Are those the horrible ends the chicoms tooled for the Intermountain MILW ribside? Yes there were some Dreadnaught ends with flat terminations of the ribs, but they were square cornered ends from the thirties. These IDE's are just wrong.

Dennis Storzek

Re: US&S Model 1911A1 Pistols

spsalso
 

THAT is a neat find.  On so many levels. 

Thanks,


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Re: Riveting and Welding with Archer

O Fenton Wells
 

Bill don't tell me you didn't use Union Welders!

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Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
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Re: B&O M-15K brake arrangement

brianleppert@att.net
 

Bill,

That's Message # 140587.  There's a box on our home page for searching those.

Or scroll down through the files and look for a bunch of green icons on the left.  I downloaded pages from Westinghouse parts catalogs for their KD, KC and AB brake systems.  Also a brochure from AC&F for their Type 8 tank car.  The drawing you're looking for is "AB page 14".

Hope this helps.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

Re: B&O M-15K brake arrangement

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


As one of the recipients of the M-15K kit at Naperville this year I have followed this discussion with great interest.  I now need to reconsile this information to modeling.  Regretfully the photos of the M-15-K car in Focus On freight Cars 
Volume 7 Are quite dark in the afrea of the underbody.

There was a reference to a entry in the file section of STMFC.  I have to admit that I have never referred to the Files
section of theis site.  When I pull it up the files are in order from the latest down.  I do not see a means of locating file #140587 without scrolling down through who knows how many files.  Is athere an indexing system that I am missing?

Thanks for any help:

Bill P:ardie

On Dec 26, 2016, at 10:15 AM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Brian,

Thank you for the clarification.

I misinterpreted the drawing. For the hybrid AB system the emergency reservoir is new and the other illustrations show how the "auxiliary reservoirs for KC and KC system are modified to become part of the hybrid AB system.

Bob Witt


Riveting and Welding with Archer

Bill Welch
 

News Flash

Those crazy wild folks from Archer Fine Transfers are currently at the WDW Car Shops in Clearwater, Fla. doing some welding and riveting on Monon #37 (C&BT) and a C&WC DD rebuild (Chad Boas) in preparation for the “Freight Car Modeling Challenge” during “Prototype Rails” at CCB Fla. Jan. 5–7. The cars were prepped by blasting w/Arm & Hammer baking soda and then airbrushed w/Johnson’s Pledge (formerly Future) for a gloss coat. Unfortunately this was not very skillfully applied in some areas, perhaps because WDW kept their folks up too late.

Moving on, shop forces report that Archer uses a very thin film for their products that practically disappears when applied. This is sort of a “good news/bad news” thing as it made the welder’s job a challenge getting the Aircraft Panel Line decals (#AR88013) he used for his welds down in a straight line. Caffeine may have contributed to his difficulties. Riveting (#AR88030) went much easier as it was done in shorter spans.

WDW’s use of Archer does not obviate their use of Athearn’s “Harvested Rivets” as these are the easiest for special applications—one or two rivets; odd patterns or no patterns—but it does signal that the car shops may be working on more steel cars over the next year or two.

By January 5th the two cars will probably have been sprayed with Badger’s “Stynylrez” (stupid name) grey acrylic polyurethane primer making it more obvious if the welder got his weld seam straight or not. Other details added by the car shops will be more visible too.

–30–

Here is the Link to Photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dsvw9znqk1mdt53/AAAzWusHXaccI9R0VHA6kZiLa?dl=0

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Bill Welch


Re: NYC N scale decals

Benjamin Hom
 

Enzo Fortuna asked:
"My time is frozen to 1950-1955. Microscale have a modern logo on a "boxcar" sheet, not the White Logo on a Black oval.
Exactly what is on the Spookshow page?"

Paint and lettering pictured is post-August 1955, and the models represent the New York Central System's USRA-design steel boxcars as upgraded with rectangular panel roofs during the 1940s.  More details on NYCS paint and lettering here (scroll down 1/3 down the page):

Microscale 60-58 covers 1958 to the merger.


"Any idea about maybe "dry transfer" products?"

Dry transfers are your best option.  The best sets for the Broadway Limited models are C-D-S 761, and 763.  Additionally, C-D-S has 5 other sets that will letter the as-built version of these cars.  These are available from Ozark Miniatures:

Clover House also offers sets for these cars as built.


Ben Hom



Re: NYC N scale decals

William Dale
 

Enzo, have you tried Ozark Miniatures?  They always seemed to have a supply of CDS dry transfers.

Bill

High cut levers?

Jim Betz
 

Hi all,

I just saw an auction for some brass HOn3 cars ("Oriental" tag on
at least one) and they have the cut levers mounted up between
the second and third rungs of the end climbing ladders. They are
not very prototypically done in terms of size and might even be
some modelers add on to a brass car. These cars also have
what looks like Kadee #5 couplers and so they are definitely
following the norm in terms of HOn3.

I've never seen (noticed?) high cut levers like this before and
wonder if it was ever actually done that way on the prototype
narrow gauge cars (or some other cars)?
- Jim B.

Re: NYC N scale decals

Enzo Fortuna <babbo_enzo@...>
 

Hi Ben
My time is frozen to 1950-1955. Microscale have a modern logo on a "boxcar" sheet, not the White Logo on a Black oval.
Exactly what is on the Spoockshow page.
Any idea about maybe "dry transfer" products?

WWII steel vs SS box was US&S Model 1911A1 Pistols

John Barry
 

Reasonably good views of both sides and the B end of Bx-37 143854, one of 500 built in late 1941 by  Pullman with ASF spring-plankless trucks.  It clearly shows the browner shade of boxcar red the Santa Fe used prior to the late 40's/early 50's as can be seen with the contrast to the redder background under the updated re-weigh and re-pack stencils.  

That shot of the freight departing has what looks like an MKT SS car at 10:32.  Mostly SS box cars, there was a PRR X29 (28?), a ventilator box, and a NYC steel box before it faded mid train.  Even the one gondola I noted was SS.  

That snippet tells me that SS cars are significantly under-represented in my WWII box car fleet.  I also didn't see much evidence of paint failure; possibly some on two cars near the eaves, but the roofs looked pretty uniform to me.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 4:19 PM
Subject: [STMFC] US&S Model 1911A1 Pistols

 
Hello All,

Beside an interest in steam era freight cars I have an interest in World War Two history. Found this interesting video on making of a model 1911A1 .45 automatic pistol by Union Switch & Signal Co. during WW2. US&S made the 2nd smallest number of pistols at 55,000. It is interesting seeing the receiver milled out of a block of steel.

As to freight car relevance, at 9:46 crates of the pistols are loaded into a Santa Fe "El Capitan" box car and later is a shot of a freight train departing and a streetcar in the background. This movie is in color.

Richard Wilkens

 


Re: NYC N scale decals

Benjamin Hom
 

Enzo Fortuna asked:
"I've 4 of these BLI box cars undecorated. Somebody know where I can find these decals in N scale?

Browsing on Microscale site have found nothing."

What era are you modeling?


Ben Hom

NYC N scale decals

babbo_enzo@...
 

Hi all, 

I've 4 of these BLI box cars undecorated. Somebody know where I can find these decals in N scale?

Browsing on Microscale site have found nothing.

thanks in advance for your suggestions!

Enzo Fortuna


Broadway Limited Imports (China) New York Central 40' Steel Box Car


Re: SAL Class A-1 Automobile Box Car

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bob,

SAL's 96099 is shown in figure 234 on page 223 of the 1931 CAR BUILDER'S CYCLOPEDIA. You will also find it in Gregg's TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA No. 46. The car in question was class G7, a 41' 6" flat-bottom composite gondola with nine side stakes, a ribbed end with four wales, but no darts, and a slightly protruding end sill, same as the auto car conversion.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 12/26/16 1:22 PM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

This general arrangement drawing has been listed on and off on eBay for a month or so.

1930s Seaboard Airline Railroad Blueprint Gen. Arrangement 50 Ton Auto Car 89X34 | eBay

 



The drawing is for a SAL class A-1 automobile box cars SAL 9011-9035 (1936) and SAL 9036-9060 (1937).  I am intrigued by the note that these box cars were built from former gondola series 96000 built in 1926. The gondolas were in-service for about a decade and then some were used to build these box cars. Was this done under some Depression Program similar to what the B&O used to built their M-15 wagon-top box cars using M-15 fishbelly underframes? When that program ended the B&O built its wagon-tops as totally new cars (Class M-53).

I found photos of a A-1, but not of the original gondola.

Pictures of SAL 9028

  SAL 9028 (Box Car)

 




Can others supply additional information about these box cars?  It seems to be a good candidate for a resin kit especially since one of them has been preserved in a museum.

Bob Witt

for sale HO Kits

Brian Carlson
 

Spending the better part of this year helping to liquidate my friends HO collection is causing me to take a look at what I am actually going to be able to build. My appetite for freight cars is larger than my current modeling outlook so I have a few kits for sale. 3 plastic, 2 resin. Since there are only a few cars they are listed in this email.

 

USPS shipping will be added

 

Sunshine 21.1 MP ARA 1932 Boxcar $40

Speedwitch Kit 106.1 CB&Q XM-25/26 (Original release) $40

Intermountain 42199 Undec AAR Alt. Standard 2 bay hopper kit $20

Atlas 1030 11,000 Gallon Tank Car – Undec w/o platform $10

Atlas 1060 11,000 Gallon Tank Car – Undec w/ platform $10

 

Shipped from 14227. Contact me OFF LIST at prrk41361_at_yahoo.com

 

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY