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Upgrading PFE Reefer Kits Question

Ken Adams
 

Is the Accurail Part 446 (http://www.accurail.com/accurail/parts.htm) accurate for PFE Ice Car rebuilds? It has the replacement 4-4 Dreadnought ends and ice hatches. 


If so has anyone had experience using it. 


I have quite a few old Athearn Blue Box reefers I would like to upgrade.  Not to the extent of Tony Thompson's PFE rebuilds, but to a level appropriate for my competence.


Ken Adams


 


Re: Resin Kits

Dale Muir
 

Jeff and others selling on eBay:

 

Here is a suggestion to make it easy for others to find your eBay listings. You don't need to be logged on eBay for this.

 

1.       Go on eBay and open any page with one of your listings.

2.       Find the "Seller Information" box near the upper right corner.

3.       Select the "See other items" link in "Seller Information" to open a page with all of your listings.

4.       Select the entire URL shown in your browser and copy to clipboard.

5.       Paste the URL in your email announcement.

6.       At this point the URL in your email might be plain text (not really a URL) depending on your system. Convert the URL text to a link if necessary.
The URL should look like this:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/dadsbrasstrains/m.html?item=361878624024&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

7.       Test the URL before sending the email. It should open the page with your eBay listings.

8.       Send the email.

 

Dale

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:06 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits

 

 

Bill,

 

                Go to www.ebay.com .  In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”.  Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.

 

Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits

 

 

Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?

 

Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

Bill Welch
 

Thanks Ben, learn something new everyday!

Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

 

This worked for me. No idea why it didn’t before.





Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni



From: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Bill,



Go to www.ebay.com . In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”. Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.



Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.



Regards,



-Jeff





From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?



Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Welch asked:
"Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?"

To search by seller:
- Click on "Advanced" link next to the "Search" button at the top right of the eBay hompage.
- Scroll to the bottom of the page to "Sellers".
- Click "Only show items from" checkbox, ensure "Include" is selected in the drop-down menu, and enter the desired seller's name.
- Click on the "Search" button.


Ben Hom


Re: Resin Kits

Aley, Jeff A
 

Bill,

 

                Go to www.ebay.com .  In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”.  Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.

 

Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits

 

 

Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?

 

Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

Bill Welch
 

Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?

Bill Welch


Re: WOODEN BRAKE STEPS

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

I've seen this "tray" effect on a reasonable number of cars. The brake platform looks like the boards were set into it.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@HAWAII.RR.COM [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 8:42 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] WOODEN BRAKE STEPS

As we work on detailing our models it seems to become a case of "the farther you go - the farther you go. This seems to
become more and more true with the great detai photos that we find in the FOCUS ON FREIGHT CAR books.

While brousing these books the latest item to catch my attention is the brake step on many of the wooden cars. There seems
to be a metal band around the outer edge of the step with two rivets facing outboard. Can anyone confirm or deny this
practice?

As usual thanks in advance for any thoughts or opinions ( such as "why would he worry about that):

Bill Pardie

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Re: Illinois Terminal Rodger Ballast Car

Tony Thompson
 

I found a picture in a Google search of an Illinois Traction Rodger Ballast Car.  It was placed in service in 1909 in series 9000-9005.  The photo is from the "Electric Railway Journal" July 8th, 1916, volume 48, p. 49.  This is the link to the photo of the car. I would like to potentially make a model of this car, and am wondering if anyone has any photos or dimensions of a car like this, or a suggestion of how to go about building a model of it.  


  Car Builders Cycs in the early 20th century had extensive coverage of the Rodger designs.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Illinois Terminal Rodger Ballast Car

Doug Forbes
 

Group,

I found a picture in a Google search of an Illinois Traction Rodger Ballast Car.  It was placed in service in 1909 in series 9000-9005.  The photo is from the "Electric Railway Journal" July 8th, 1916, volume 48, p. 49.  This is the link to the photo of the car. I would like to potentially make a model of this car, and am wondering if anyone has any photos or dimensions of a car like this, or a suggestion of how to go about building a model of it.  

Thanks for any help,

Doug

 


Resin Kits

Mark
 

I have decided to let some of my kits go. They are on eBay seller bnonut.

Sincerely, Mark Morgan



WOODEN BRAKE STEPS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

As we work on detailing our models it seems to become a case of "the farther you go - the farther you go. This seems to
become more and more true with the great detai photos that we find in the FOCUS ON FREIGHT CAR books.

While brousing these books the latest item to catch my attention is the brake step on many of the wooden cars. There seems
to be a metal band around the outer edge of the step with two rivets facing outboard. Can anyone confirm or deny this
practice?

As usual thanks in advance for any thoughts or opinions ( such as "why would he worry about that):

Bill Pardie


February Op Session on the Alma branch

Jared Harper
 

I want to have an op session on the Alma branch in February.  As far as my schedule is concerned my time is pretty open in February.    I can do the following Saturdays--4th, 18th, and 25th, or the following Sundays--5th, 12th, 19th, 26th.  Check your calendars and tell me what dates suit you and when I have three guys requesting a date that is when it will be.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA

P.S.  If you want to come but it's a bit of a journey I can provide room and board for a couple of guys.


Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Walter
 

I found a set in Canada online 1.75 Cad.

Lenny Ohrnell


Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Tim O'Connor
 


That is correct Bill - Details West #215 - Preco fan details and tack boards



Are you sure it is a Detail Assoc.'s part. I think it was a Detail West part included in their Reefer Detail set.

Bill Welch


Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Bill Welch
 

Are you sure it is a Detail Assoc.'s part. I think it was a Detail West part included in their Reefer Detail set.

Bill Welch


Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Tim O'Connor
 

Ken

Shapeways?

It's hard to pry rare, no longer made, detail parts out of THIS group,
or any group of RPM fine detail modelers. I have some but I am saving
them for retrofit to SUNSHINE kits to represent cars modified later in
life - and to a couple of brass cars that just came with a hole in their
side where the fan plate is supposed to go.

Tim O'Connor

I have a string of old Athearn Blue Box PFE ice cars (not ice service) I am upgrading as a past time. Most date to the 1970's and 80's so are rough representations of a PFE R-40-23 car. I am using Tony Thomspson's blog postings as a guide. I model the very early 1950's when Preco fans were installed on a lot of PFE cars, if I understand correctly for pre-cooling cars before delivery to shippers for loading and wish to replicate this feature better than the blob of black paint Athearn used to indicate the internal fan shaft.One or two may get corrected car ends but I will leave the 10-12 others as is.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a source for either the Detail Associates part or an easily available alternative. I have trialed building the internal fan shaft end from round plastic shapes and a hole drilled in the car, but would also like to add the panel with the wheel shaft and control.

Any and all suggestions welcome.

Ken Adams
Walnut Creak


Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Richard Townsend
 

As I recall, a good substitute is (was?) a "washout plug" from, maybe, Precision Scale (?). I'm at work and don't have access to my files.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: smadanek@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Wed, Jan 18, 2017 10:46 am
Subject: [STMFC] HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

 
I have a string of old Athearn Blue Box PFE ice cars (not ice service) I am upgrading as a past time. Most date to the 1970's and 80's so are rough representations of a PFE R-40-23 car. I am using Tony Thomspson's blog postings as a guide. I model the very early 1950's when Preco fans were installed on a lot of PFE cars, if I understand correctly for pre-cooling cars before delivery to shippers for loading and wish to replicate this feature better than the blob of black paint Athearn used to indicate the internal fan shaft.One or two may get corrected car ends but I will leave the 10-12 others as is. 

I cannot find any of the Details Associate’s #215 Refrigerator Car Details w/PRECO fan anywhere. It is not listed anymore by Detail Associates, not available on any eBay site. It would be wonderful is someone has a secret stash of these parts they are not planning to use and would be willing to part (no pun intended) with them.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a source for either the Detail Associates part or an easily available alternative. I have trialed building the internal fan shaft end from round plastic shapes and a hole drilled in the car, but would also like to add the panel with the wheel shaft and control. 

Any and all suggestions welcome. 

Ken Adams
Walnut Creak (wet weather and a bit of arthritis)
 


Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Tony Thompson
 

Ken Adams wrote:

 
Does anyone have a suggestion for a source for either the Detail Associates part or an easily available alternative. I have trialed building the internal fan shaft end from round plastic shapes and a hole drilled in the car, but would also like to add the panel with the wheel shaft and control. 

   The Detail Associates part is nice. I have also used the Precision Scale boiler washout plug, which looks quite similar. Don't have the part number handy but could look it up if you can't find idt.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Ken Adams
 

Yesterday I couldn't find these on eBay and today I can. Ordered 3 from a seller and hopefully will come soon.

Ken Adams
Still in Creak mode

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