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Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Douglas Harding
 

Jim icing requirements varied by contents, weather and destination. So each car had different needs. The ice dock received instructions from the shipper as to how much ice and salt for each car. So the ice crew had to know what each car was to receive. Not all car owners stenciled the car number on the ice hatch. But SFRD was one known to have the car number on the hatch, which made identifying the car easier, which no doubt reduced errors and thus saved costs.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Tony Thompson
 

Jim Betz wrote:

 

Tony Thompson/anyone,
That pic of the reefer with the stenciling on the ice hatch ... was there a reason why the icing crews needed to know the car number? For instance did they load different amounts of ice (or salt) in the cars based upon cooling needs ... by car number?


     The ice deck foreman estimated by eye the amount of ice needed to fill each bunker to the top, and wrote that number on a train list or consist sheet. The final shipment bill would include amounts of ice at each icing, along with requested amounts of salt. The ice deck crews then had no decisions to make on ice amounts, they just filled the bunkers.
      Neither SFRD nor PFE consistently put car numbers on ice hatch covers or roofs down through the years. Crews could easily see the end numbers on cars.

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Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

John Sykes III
 

Tony:

In response to you and others.  First, yes, icing requirements varied by the produce in the reefer.  But probably more important, the icing facilities were often run by contractors or vendors, so they tracked the amount of salt and ice added to each car so the owner could be billed for their services.  For example, the ice house at Altoona was originally operated by Amour or Swift (I forget which), so the car owners would be billed by the pounds of salt and tons of ice added at that stop.  PRR eventually took over the icing operations at Altoona to save money (or, more likely, to make money, since they didn't own many reefers).

-- John


Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Jim Betz
 

Tony Thompson/anyone,

That pic of the reefer with the stenciling on the ice hatch ... was there
a reason why the icing crews needed to know the car number? For
instance did they load different amounts of ice (or salt) in the cars
based upon cooling needs ... by car number?
- Jim B.


Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Paul Koehler
 

Bob:

 

Sign on the Standard oil building says “Glendale”, so it’s on the ATSF.  Great pictures of the Ice trucks, thanks.

 

Paul C. Koehler

 


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Subject: [STMFC] Icing Platform - Where Was This?

 

 

Anyone have an educated guess as to where this photo was taken?

 

The location is somewhere in Arizona. Clues are the Crystal Ice House and the Standard Oil Company building.

 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rtfkqQRupCY/maxresdefault.jpg

 

Notice the car number stenciling on the refrigerator car ice hatch cover. There also appears to be a number stenciled on the ventilator hood of the reefer off to the far right...if that is in fact a reefer and a ventilator hood.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Patrick Wade
 

Looks like the sign on the roof says Glendale.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Allen Montgomery sandbear75@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

If the SFRD refer is the home road, I would say it is around Glendale. I can't think of another town in Az of that size that they loaded refers in.
Allen


On Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:04 PM, "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Anyone have an educated guess as to where this photo was taken?
 
The location is somewhere in Arizona. Clues are the Crystal Ice House and the Standard Oil Company building.
 
 
Notice the car number stenciling on the refrigerator car ice hatch cover. There also appears to be a number stenciled on the ventilator hood of the reefer off to the far right...if that is in fact a reefer and a ventilator hood.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA




Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

gary laakso
 

The sign says Glendale Standard Oil, so its most likely Glendale.
 
gary laakso
 

Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Icing Platform - Where Was This?
 
 

Anyone have an educated guess as to where this photo was taken?

 

The location is somewhere in Arizona. Clues are the Crystal Ice House and the Standard Oil Company building.

 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rtfkqQRupCY/maxresdefault.jpg

 

Notice the car number stenciling on the refrigerator car ice hatch cover. There also appears to be a number stenciled on the ventilator hood of the reefer off to the far right...if that is in fact a reefer and a ventilator hood.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Jim Williams <wwww5960@...>
 

The sign on the building says Glendale as in AZ.....Jim Williams


On Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:04 PM, "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]"


 
Anyone have an educated guess as to where this photo was taken?
 
The location is somewhere in Arizona. Clues are the Crystal Ice House and the Standard Oil Company building.
 
 
Notice the car number stenciling on the refrigerator car ice hatch cover. There also appears to be a number stenciled on the ventilator hood of the reefer off to the far right...if that is in fact a reefer and a ventilator hood.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA



Re: Icing Platform - Where Was This?

Allen Montgomery
 

If the SFRD refer is the home road, I would say it is around Glendale. I can't think of another town in Az of that size that they loaded refers in.
Allen


On Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:04 PM, "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Anyone have an educated guess as to where this photo was taken?
 
The location is somewhere in Arizona. Clues are the Crystal Ice House and the Standard Oil Company building.
 
 
Notice the car number stenciling on the refrigerator car ice hatch cover. There also appears to be a number stenciled on the ventilator hood of the reefer off to the far right...if that is in fact a reefer and a ventilator hood.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA



Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Michael Gross
 


Icing Platform - Where Was This?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Anyone have an educated guess as to where this photo was taken?

 

The location is somewhere in Arizona. Clues are the Crystal Ice House and the Standard Oil Company building.

 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rtfkqQRupCY/maxresdefault.jpg

 

Notice the car number stenciling on the refrigerator car ice hatch cover. There also appears to be a number stenciled on the ventilator hood of the reefer off to the far right...if that is in fact a reefer and a ventilator hood.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Resin Kits

 

You might also consider using tinyurl.com (or similar) to create a short URL that is less likely to be truncated.





Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni



From: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
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Date: Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 1:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Jeff and others selling on eBay:



Here is a suggestion to make it easy for others to find your eBay listings. You don't need to be logged on eBay for this.



1. Go on eBay and open any page with one of your listings.

2. Find the "Seller Information" box near the upper right corner.

3. Select the "See other items" link in "Seller Information" to open a page with all of your listings.

4. Select the entire URL shown in your browser and copy to clipboard.

5. Paste the URL in your email announcement.

6. At this point the URL in your email might be plain text (not really a URL) depending on your system. Convert the URL text to a link if necessary.
The URL should look like this:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/dadsbrasstrains/m.html?item=361878624024&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

7. Test the URL before sending the email. It should open the page with your eBay listings.

8. Send the email.



Dale



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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:06 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Bill,



Go to www.ebay.com . In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”. Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.



Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.



Regards,



-Jeff





From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?



Bill Welch





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Re: HO Refrigerator Car Preco Fan Availability

Ken Adams
 

I didn't even notice.  I had been using an old reference from Arvid Grass to then Detail Associates.  The seller is  sending Details West parts.


Upgrading PFE Reefer Kits Question

Ken Adams
 

Is the Accurail Part 446 (http://www.accurail.com/accurail/parts.htm) accurate for PFE Ice Car rebuilds? It has the replacement 4-4 Dreadnought ends and ice hatches. 


If so has anyone had experience using it. 


I have quite a few old Athearn Blue Box reefers I would like to upgrade.  Not to the extent of Tony Thompson's PFE rebuilds, but to a level appropriate for my competence.


Ken Adams


 


Re: Resin Kits

Dale Muir
 

Jeff and others selling on eBay:

 

Here is a suggestion to make it easy for others to find your eBay listings. You don't need to be logged on eBay for this.

 

1.       Go on eBay and open any page with one of your listings.

2.       Find the "Seller Information" box near the upper right corner.

3.       Select the "See other items" link in "Seller Information" to open a page with all of your listings.

4.       Select the entire URL shown in your browser and copy to clipboard.

5.       Paste the URL in your email announcement.

6.       At this point the URL in your email might be plain text (not really a URL) depending on your system. Convert the URL text to a link if necessary.
The URL should look like this:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/dadsbrasstrains/m.html?item=361878624024&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

7.       Test the URL before sending the email. It should open the page with your eBay listings.

8.       Send the email.

 

Dale

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:06 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits

 

 

Bill,

 

                Go to www.ebay.com .  In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”.  Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.

 

Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits

 

 

Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?

 

Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

Bill Welch
 

Thanks Ben, learn something new everyday!

Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

 

This worked for me. No idea why it didn’t before.





Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni



From: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 11:06 AM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Bill,



Go to www.ebay.com . In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”. Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.



Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.



Regards,



-Jeff





From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits





Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?



Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Bill Welch asked:
"Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?"

To search by seller:
- Click on "Advanced" link next to the "Search" button at the top right of the eBay hompage.
- Scroll to the bottom of the page to "Sellers".
- Click "Only show items from" checkbox, ensure "Include" is selected in the drop-down menu, and enter the desired seller's name.
- Click on the "Search" button.


Ben Hom


Re: Resin Kits

Aley, Jeff A
 

Bill,

 

                Go to www.ebay.com .  In the upper-right corner, next to the “Search” button, click on “Advanced”.  Scroll down to the bottom and click “Only show items from:” and put in “bnonut” in the box below “specific sellers”.

 

Then click the Search button at the bottom of the page.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Kits

 

 

Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?

 

Bill Welch


Re: Resin Kits

Bill Welch
 

Mark, sorry I could not find, unclear to me how to search by seller. Maybe send us a link to one item?

Bill Welch

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