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Re: Cement Hopper Weathering
thecitrusbelt@...
Neither logical or likely. Why weld an entire matching circle when you only need to preventing denting in the latch area? Would there really be a concern about denting a fairly thick metal roof? The roof hatch is a stamping (relatively light weight) and its short arc of travel could hardly allow it to built up enough speed to be a concern. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: CM&StP box car broadside
Dennis Storzek
A couple things I noticed...
The A end is damaged, with broken end posts. The car has a different coupler at each end, both pre-ARA type D. The A end has a strange side operated coupler; to uncouple, you pull the cut lever out perpendicular to the track. The B end has a bottom operated rotary. This seems quite early for bottom operated couplers. I stopped at the Sergent Engineering web site earlier this week. Frank now has an HO scale Sharon coupler, which would be just perfect for a model of this car. The Sharon is only 3/4 the length of a type D/E, giving cars that used them a close coupled appearance. The Sergent Sharon has the proper rib pattern on the "thumb" side of the knuckle. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Winter TKM is now available
Folks,
My apologies! This is issue #99! The next issue of TKM will be #100!
Regards Bruce Smith
From: PRR-Modeling@... on behalf of 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [PRR-Modeling]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:30 PM To: the-keystone-modeler@...; STMFC@...; PRR-Modeling@...; PRRPro@... Subject: [PRR-Modeling] Winter TKM is now available Folks,
The Winer 2017 issue of the Keystone Modeler, #98, is now available. See http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith
webmaster, PRRT&HS
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Winter TKM is now available
Folks,
The Winer 2017 issue of the Keystone Modeler, #98, is now available. See http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm
Regards,
Bruce
Bruce F. Smith
webmaster, PRRT&HS
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Re: Cement Hopper Weathering
Mark Vinski
Is it really a weathering pattern? It looks to me like there could be an extra layer of metal welded onto the roof to prevent denting when the hatches are flipped open. Mark Vinski
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Re: Cement Hopper Weathering
Bill Vaughn
Interesting pattern. Looks like the hatches may have been open for awhile since there is a pronounced ring. Bill Vaughn
On Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:15 PM, "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" wrote: I have several two-bay cement hoppers that I plan to weather
using prototype photos as a guide. This particular photo by Robert Pisani caught
my eye because of the subtle pattern around the roof hatches: Notice the relatively clean circular areas where the open
hatch covers shielded the roof from spilled cement. This is the only roof shot
I've seen with this particular pattern from more than two dozen I've studied. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: CM&StP box car broadside
rwitt_2000
Richard,
This is a useful find especially for those modeling the as built CM&StP wood, double sheathed box car with the Bettendorf underframe from the Westerfield kit. *12003 BETTENDORF DS BOX CAR, ORIGINAL, CM&StP, CMStP&P, MILW As I recall when the kit was introduced, there were not many photos available for that prototype. Bob Witt
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Re: CM&StP box car broadside
Ted Schnepf
Hi Richard,
Thanks for sharing the interesting photos. This car was a very large Milw class of 3455 cars built in 1912 and 1913, and they lasted in to the 1950's in limited numbers. They have steel fishbelly Bettendorf under frame and are long, 42'5" exterior length. The 40 ton cars rode on Bettendorf boltless trucks when built. The A end lumber door was high on some cars as shown in the photo, and on other cars was 2/3 height. Photos in later years show some cars with braced ends. In 1913, 2955 of these cars were built in Milwaukee shops (probably distributed between Milw, Dubuque and So. Minneapolis.) But that is still 1000 cars per shop, or about 4 per day (6 day work week) from each shop. Still an amazing amount of car production coming from in house. During this time frame (1907 to 1916) Milw standardized on 42' boxcars having 16,839 of them. Latter they upped the length to 43' (1917 and 1918) and built another 2000 cars. Then the USRA cane along and made them purchase little 40' cars. Ted At 11:12 AM 2/23/2017, you wrote: AllRails Unlimited Ted Schnepf railsunl@sbcglobal.net 847-697-5353 126 Will Scarlet Elgin, Ill. 60120 http://RailsUnlimited.ribbonrail.com/ Model Railroad Sales and Service with a personal touch. Books new and used. HO and O scales. DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars. Photos and darkroom services. Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 5% added).
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Re: Test message 1 +1
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 2/23/2017 3:44 PM,
pullmanboss@... [STMFC] wrote:
No image there when viewing the post on the STMFC web site. Just a little black box with an "x" in it. It showed as a embedded picture on my email!
I'm not sure what happens but it appears sometimes one gets a
picture and sometimes not. It seems like when I get private or
group email there is a picture and when I get something (say
Harbor Freight ad) it shows as a black box with an "x" in it. -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Cement Hopper Weathering
thecitrusbelt@...
I have several two-bay cement hoppers that I plan to weather using prototype photos as a guide. This particular photo by Robert Pisani caught my eye because of the subtle pattern around the roof hatches:
http://www.railcarphotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=2338
Notice the relatively clean circular areas where the open hatch covers shielded the roof from spilled cement. This is the only roof shot I've seen with this particular pattern from more than two dozen I've studied.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Test message 1 +1
Tom Madden
No image there when viewing the post on the STMFC web site. Just a little black box with an "x" in it. Tom Madden
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Re: Test message 1 +1
Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
Hi Jeff,
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Like this … as an insert within a message… ? Yes. This is my photo of an ATSF SK-R stock car that was snapped in Morris, Kansas, on June 3, 1974. Cheers, Bill Keene Irvine, CA
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Re: UP A-50-4
Tony Thompson
Peter Hall wrote:
UP made the change from Roman (serif) to Gothic (sans-serif) lettering in June 1939. The lettering was white (except for yellow slogans). It was not until 1947 that all lettering became yellow. So the all-white Gothic is fine for a car repainted anytime from 1939 to 1947. This particular model was the second resin car kit I ever built, and though the gray resin was a handful to work with, I loved (and still love) the model. Mine too made a trip to the floor, and the glass-brittleness of that early resin was a blessing. Every piece fit perfectly back together. I reassembled it with CA and you have to look carefully today to find the joins. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: UP A-50-4
Pete - The instructions in your new kit should show photos of all variations. I updated the kit 28th better detail and more variations about 2001. If your kit doesn't have that info and has the Elk Grove address then you have the original kit 28th the old casting resin. Best to throw it out. Check out the Westerfield web site for photos of all kits. Al Westerfield
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Test message 1
Aley, Jeff A
This is a test to see if attached photos are allowed (as a result of the recent msg including a photo of an HO scale UP A-50-4).
[cid:image001.jpg@01D28DE1.F9E30B10] Regards, -Jeff
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UP A-50-4
Peter Hall
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Re: Chipping
Tim
Mean Green will not harm enamel or lacquer. I believe he didn't want anyone to use enamel as the filter overlay. Gene Deimling
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Re: Chipping Fluid
Clark Propst
I’ve been using the AKI chipping and warn solutions on structures for a
year or two. A friend just used the stuff on a box car roof. I’ll try to take
some photos tonight. Beings it’s a resin kit I’ll attach the photos to an email
on the resin freight cars group.
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: Chipping
Gene
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The only thing I found curious was Lee said not to "try this" mean green filter method on solvent based paints. I assume he means that the cleanser would simply be ineffective on solvent based paints, or was there something more sinister? :-\ Tim O'Connor
Recently, I posted a couple articles on weathering techniques used by Lee Turner.
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Chipping
Recently, I posted a couple articles on weathering techniques used by Lee Turner. On 3 September, Lee describes the use of Vallejo Chipping Fluids on weathering a model. You will also find a useful article on the use of filters to age railroad equipment. -- Gene Deimling
El Dorado Hills, CA
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