ATSF caboose truck
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
Are there any trucks close
to this one? Also this is from the side door caboose so
wonder if by '41 the trucks were changed? Not even sure these
were used at all by '41!
-- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Shipping Coal - How Far?
Hi,
How far would coal be shipped in hoppers? Especially as it relates to the West Coast. I'm talking about regular everyday coal for steam - such as to a railroad or to a cement plant (or any other large industry such as a steel mill or power plant). And what was truly in control of the sourcing of coal? Of course it was price per ton - but, for instance, how much closer would the coal mine have to be before the shipping costs based upon ton miles started to be more important than how many RRs were involved in the shipment or other factors? For instance - where would coal for such purposes have been shipped from - going to locations in Central or Northern California? I know there was coal in Utah that was being shipped to Southern California. Other sources/locations? Extra credit - what 'influence' did the railroad that the industry was on have on the source of the coal in received? For instance if you have a cement plant in Northern California being served by the ATSF ... where did the coal it received -probably- come from? Steam/transition era answers only - please. I'm not asking "what is happening today?" or "what happened in the 70's or 80's?". - Jim B.
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
Bill Welch
I have an Icing Scene photo that must date just after Western Fruit was formed showing two of their reefers still mostly in their GN scheme with large Goat but with their "GN" reporting marks painted out and WFEX stenciling. Coupled between them is an ex-L&N reefer just taken into FGE ownership with expedient reporting marks similarly applied in white stencil paste as L&N car was BCR.
Bill Welch
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
gary laakso
When Great Northern created the wholly-owned subsidiary Western Fruit Express in 1923, their refrigerator cars were repainted and a much smaller full face herald was used. I have not found many photos to confirm, but my guess would be that the re-paints came very fast.
Gary Laakso South of Mike Brock
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 3:46 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Really interesting freight car photos today
Hi Schuyler,
Rails Unlimited
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Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Vol. 3 and FOFC re-prints
Ted Culotta
Apologies if you've received this elsewhere.... It's been about a decade since the last Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual was published. The wait is over. I am happy to announce the next volume in the series: Volume Three: Refrigerator Cars. Like the previous titles, it is intended to be a go-to reference to understand the major prototypes roaming the rails during the late Steam Era (1920s to the early 1950s). Information may be found at http://speedwitchmedia.comThere is a pre-order discount period that runs through March 10th.For those who may have missed them, Focus on Freight Cars, Volume Three: Refrigerator Cars and Volume Four: Steel Box Cars, are being re-printed. There is a discounted pre-order for those two titles, as well.Thank you. |
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
Ted Schnepf
Hi Schuyler,
I find images 1427 and 1426 to be most interesting, as on the left side of the photo is a string of reefers, including one or two from the Great Northern. What is unique to me is the GN goat herald on the reefer side. That herald was common on box cars during that era, but did not realize it had also been applied to reefers. Wonder how long that herald lasted into the 1920's? Ted At 10:32 AM 2/26/2017, you wrote: http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17
Rails Unlimited
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Re: steamerafreightcars.com - Updated 1932 ARA, 1937 AAR, Modified 19...
Greg Martin
Ed,
I am on AOL and my default browser is set for Google and it came through
just fine.
I really appreciate all the time and energy you have put into this
information. I have a couple of unfinished Athearn AAR boxcars that came to me
from the Stan Rydariwzc estate and he did just the very basics to them. I want
for step back a bit and perhaps remove the ends ala WESTRAILS thinking and
upgrade it to some basic personal standards that I think Stan would have gone
to. Stan over the years gave me several partially finished project that under
scrutiny just didn't stand up, but not that there wasn't some genius in
there, there was but he ran into an issue that made him stop.
These are fun projects that I will post to Shake N Take as they develop and
perhaps in MRH under Mont and my byline "at the Bench" or
RMC under my old byline "jewels from the junk box" or "weekender
projects" . This is all just to help promote folks to model
again using the information you have provided.
Greg Martin
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through
it. Norman Maclean
In a message dated 2/21/2017 10:09:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
STMFC@... writes:
Jim,
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Sunshine 44.4 X37B
Ted Culotta
Does anybody out there have a spare kit 44.4 PRR X37B that they'd care to part with? I'm a builder, not a collector, so I have to preface it by saying that I don't mind paying a premium, but I don't want it enough to pay collectors' prices! If anyone is so inclined, I'd also swap a built and weathered F&C X37 (although I just sent the decal artwork to be printed so it could be as much as 6-8 weeks before I can finish and send the completed F&C model). Thanks in advance. Cheers, Ted Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
One more step towards proving that there is a prototype for everything. Except molded on ladders and hand grabs I guess. Chuck Peck in FL
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 2/26/2017 9:31 AM, 'Schuyler
Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] wrote:
And BTW, I meant No. 1425, not 1424. Even wrote the number down so I'd get it right and then posted it incorrectly. Some days . . . Schuyler If one modeled that car it would get a lot of
comments (grin)! -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Decal tips
Gary Ray
Eric,
Thanks for posting the tips. I enjoy reading your blogs.
Gary Ray
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 7:07 AM To: 1914to1940rring@...; stmfc@...; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@... Subject: [STMFC] Decal tips
After painting a few models recently, it was time to apply decals. A few tips are shared in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/02/26/fresh-decals/
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
Schuyler Larrabee
But Gary, look at the roof itself. Left side, wood boards, right side,
Viking! I agree that the hatches were originally the same, but now that I see the roof's been replaced/rebuilt, maybe one of these (probably the one on the right) is a rebuilt/replacement hatch. And BTW, I meant No. 1425, not 1424. Even wrote the number down so I'd get it right and then posted it incorrectly. Some days . . . Schuyler Schuyler: You found a really great picture! Thank you for sharing it. It appears that both hatches were originally 7 boards wide with the one on the grab iron side having ages with heavy use with all the hardware loose, perhaps accelerated from the loss of the catch board that would hold the hatch before it slammed onto the roof. I think that they are the same hatches, just at different ages of use. If there is any paint left over on the roof, it sure appears to have fallen off the car. Gary Laakso South of Mike Brock From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:33 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Really interesting freight car photos today http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17 In particular, image 1424. Check out the roof in the foreground. Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car! Schuyler
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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today
gary laakso
Schuyler: You found a really great picture! Thank you for sharing it. It appears that both hatches were originally 7 boards wide with the one on the grab iron side having ages with heavy use with all the hardware loose, perhaps accelerated from the loss of the catch board that would hold the hatch before it slammed onto the roof. I think that they are the same hatches, just at different ages of use. If there is any paint left over on the roof, it sure appears to have fallen off the car.
Gary Laakso South of Mike Brock
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:33 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Really interesting freight car photos today
http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17
In particular, image 1424. Check out the roof in the foreground. Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!
Schuyler
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Really interesting freight car photos today
Schuyler Larrabee
http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17
In particular, image 1424. Check out the roof in the foreground. Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!
Schuyler
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Re: Tichy USRA underframe 3019
Bruce, Thank you. This is exactly what I needed to get rolling on a project using this part. Justin May
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Decal tips
Eric Hansmann
After painting a few models recently, it was time to apply decals. A few tips are shared in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/02/26/fresh-decals/
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
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Re: Chipping Fluid
StephenK
The totally cheap and easy way to do this is to use salt weathering. Paint the plow (or whatever) the metal color that you want to have show through. Let dry. Mist the part with plain water and sprinkle a little salt where you want the chips to be. For HO scale, I use kosher salt (it is coarser). You can make some final adjustments with tweezers, then let the water/salt dry. Then spray the finish coat on. Let dry, and then knock the salt crystals off. Result: nicely chipped paint. Cost, pretty close to nothing.
Steve Kay
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Re: Chipping Fluid
Rich C
I have used the liquid Frisket medium (Hobby Lobby or Michael's) with some good results. Does not have the sticky residue that masking tape can create. Rich Christie
On Friday, February 24, 2017 9:27 PM, "Bill Keene wakeene@... [STMFC]" wrote: Hello Garth, Please be sure to report on the results of your efforts with the Tattered Angels paint system. … After you complete the population of people, of course. Cheers & Happy Modeling, Bill Keene Irvine, CA
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Re: Tichy USRA underframe 3019
Justin,
I just measured my GA USRA rebuild and it is 4.310" or 31.28 scale feet in HO. Within my error of measurement, that's pretty spot on for the 31' 1.5" from the drawing of the USRA boxcar.
Regards Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
From: STMFC@... on behalf of Justin May westpointroute@... [STMFC]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:23 AM To: STMFC Subject: [STMFC] Tichy USRA underframe 3019 Can anyone provide the truck center distance of the Tichy USRA underframe?
Thank you,
Justin May
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Tichy USRA underframe 3019
Can anyone provide the truck center distance of the Tichy USRA underframe? Thank you, Justin May
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