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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Jon Miller
 

On 3/2/2017 2:33 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
but still I find it fascinating that Atlas would ship 10 cars (3 lb package
at least) to CANADA for $4

    You have to move Tim, either CA or Canada.  I also have the horrible thought that their internet program can't keep track of sales and inventory.  They probably have sold hundreds and have 10 in stock (GRIN)!

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: PHOTO HELP NEEDED

David Sieber
 

Gentlemen,

     While there is a lot of great info out on NP 10000-13999 boxcars, one could also not assume that Bill left off a zero, but perhaps actually meant NP 1000-1064 (possibly also NP 1065-70), loader-equipped 40ft steel boxcars upgraded ca. 1959 with DF, DF-2, or Spartan Tri-Belt loaders and renumbered into the NP 1000-series. While I did send him my one poor scan of NP 1031 (an STB car), I unfortunately did not have a good end view nor any further info on the NP's loader upgrade program, which cars were upgraded, etc. Anyone have info and/or photos of NP 1000-1064?   

Dave Sieber
Reno  NV

From: STMFC@... on behalf of WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@... [STMFC]
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 10:48 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] PHOTO HELP NEEDED
 


Morning All:

I am looking for a photo of the "B" end of the Northern Pacific 1000 series boxcars. I hope someone will be able to help.

Thanks:
Bill Pardie


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

SUVCWORR@...
 

Tim,

I ordered these so they can be stripped and used by our club as part of the club fleet.  Absent undecs, $130 for 46 cars is a bargin we will take even if we need to strip the cars.

Rich Orr


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From: Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Thu, Mar 2, 2017 5:33 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale




lol - It's beginning to sound like there is a drunken robot working the system at Atlas!

What the heck are you all ordering anyway?? When I click on 40 foot Branchline box car
kits I only see ONE available - a PRR box car. No undec kits for sure, so no extra roofs,
ends, or doors.

I tried to order 7 50 foot single door cars, and I got the discount. But shipping was still $22
as before, via UPS. There was no USPS shipping except express overnight mail for $70. It's
all academic to me, but still I find it fascinating that Atlas would ship 10 cars (3 lb package
at least) to CANADA for $4 !! When it would cost any ordinary mortal at least $25. =-O

Sounds like that drunken robot is going to have a wicked headache in the morning.

Tim O'Connor






I just ordered 46 cars by phone and shipping was $10 to Pittsburgh, PA

Rich Orr



Frankly It sounds like atlas site has errors either in its shipping table or how the weight, and size of the branchline kits are being calculated.

Brian J. Carlson



Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Tim O'Connor
 


lol - It's beginning to sound like there is a drunken robot working the system at Atlas!

What the heck are you all ordering anyway?? When I click on 40 foot Branchline box car
kits I only see ONE available - a PRR box car. No undec kits for sure, so no extra roofs,
ends, or doors.

I tried to order 7 50 foot single door cars, and I got the discount. But shipping was still $22
as before, via UPS. There was no USPS shipping except express overnight mail for $70. It's
all academic to me, but still I find it fascinating that Atlas would ship 10 cars (3 lb package
at least) to CANADA for $4 !! When it would cost any ordinary mortal at least $25. =-O

Sounds like that drunken robot is going to have a wicked headache in the morning.

Tim O'Connor






I just ordered 46 cars by phone and shipping was $10 to Pittsburgh, PA

Rich Orr



Frankly It sounds like atlas site has errors either in its shipping table or how the weight, and size of the branchline kits are being calculated.

Brian J. Carlson


Re: Proper NP trucks, was PHOTO HELP NEEDED

Bill Welch
 

Bill I hope you have these correct Limited edition Tahoe trucks for this model, also correct for their early stock car with fishbelly centersill and truss rods and the similar boxcars from Yarmouth, both done by Aaron Gjermundson, who help Brian measure these NP only trucks.


Bill Welch


Re: [ATSF] SFRD 50 foot wood reefer question

Tim O'Connor
 

Stephen

John and Charlie concur that it's an Rr-37, which according to John is a
rebuild of the Rr-10. I have no basis for comparison but it does look a lot
like my 8-1961 image of Rr-37 SFRD #5099.

The Rr-37 was one of the brass cars imported by Overland - OMI 3284. I have
one and I could paint it as Ie-R but it would probably kill the resale value. :-(

Tim O'Connor




It must be an RR-10, built in May 1931. Some of the RR-10s were modified into RR-17 and RR-26 by adding more insulation inside, but externally they would have appeared virtually the same. Some received steel roofs and two received steel ends. The live list shows 80 RR-10s in 1945, 4 in 1947-1956, and 2 in 1963.  10 RR-17s operated 1942-56 dropping to 1 in 1963. The RR-27 numbered 10 from 1940-56 and then dropped to 1 in 1963.
 
__________________________________________________
J. Stephen Sandifer
 

From: ATSF@... [ mailto:ATSF@...]

Obviously one of the Santa Fe's 50 foot wood sheathed reefers, but can
anyone identify it's original class? It appears to be in mofw (company)
service now and they usually were reclassified into a Wr-xx class but
it's illegible in this photo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/401237172798

Tim O'Connor


Re: SFRD 50 foot wood reefer question

Tim O'Connor
 

Thank you John!

The 50 foot refrigerator car is in company ice service. Typically when a car is reclassified from revenue service into company service the reporting marks are changed from SFRD to ATSF. Interesting that this car did not have the reporting marks changed from SFRD to ATSF.

The car classification was probably Rr-37 and was a super insulated car rebuilt from Rr-10. The super insulated cars were in frozen food service until displaced by the MTC cars. In company ice service the car was reclassified Ie-R. There were several shots of this car which have appeared on ebay. The car classification shows up clearly in other shots.

My guess is that the photo is probably from the late1960s.

John B. Moore, Jr.
Albuquerque


Re: Atlas/Branchline sale

pennsylvania1954
 


Re: PHOTO HELP NEEDED

np328
 

Bill, send me an e-mail OFF LINE to jcdworkingonthenp [at] onebox [dot] com and I will get you archival photos.
                                                 Jim Dick



---In STMFC@..., <PARDIEW001@...> wrote :

Morning All:

I am looking for a photo of the "B" end of the Northern Pacific 1000 series boxcars. I hope someone will be able to
help.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie


Re: Atlas/Branchline sale

David_Fullerton <david.fullerton@...>
 

Go to http://www.atlasrr.com/ and navigate to the Branchline cars. All freight
and passenger cars get the 75% discount with KITBASH, in caps, as the discount
code. I ordered 10 cars and was charged only $4.00 shipping for USPS Priority
International to my Canadian address.

David


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David Fullerton
Doha, Qatar

On March 2, 2017 at 2:41 PM "Armand Premo arm.p.prem@... [STMFC]"
<STMFC@...> wrote:

   

   

  I can't even find the page.Armand Premo

  On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:29 PM, SUVCWORR@... <mailto:SUVCWORR@...>
[STMFC] <STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> > wrote:

      > >       


      KITBASH


      all caps
       
      Rich Orr

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Garth Groff sarahsan@...
<mailto:sarahsan@...> [STMFC] < STMFC@...
<mailto:STMFC@...> >
      To: STMFC < STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> >
      Sent: Thu, Mar 2, 2017 1:28 pm
      Subject: [STMFC] Atlas/Branchline sale



      I finally found the Atlas page (my previous search yielded just one
car). Could somebody please send me the code for the sale price? I've lost
the original message.
      Yours Aye,

      Garth Groff


       

       

       

  >

 
 


Re: SFRD 50 foot wood reefer question

charles slater
 

I agree 100% with John.

Charlie Slater


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Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: SFRD 50 foot wood reefer question
 
 

The 50 foot refrigerator car is in company ice service.  Typically when a car is reclassified from revenue service into company service the reporting marks are changed from SFRD to ATSF.  Interesting that this car did not have the reporting marks changed from SFRD to  ATSF. 

 The car classification was probably Rr-37  and was a super insulated car rebuilt from Rr-10.  The super insulated cars were in frozen food service until displaced by the MTC cars.  In company ice service the car was reclassified Ie-R.  There were several shots of this car which have appeared on ebay.  The car classification shows up clearly in other shots. 

My guess is that the photo is probably from the late1960s.

John B. Moore, Jr.
Albuquerque


Re: Atlas/Branchline sale

Armand Premo
 

I can't even find the page.Armand Premo

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:29 PM, SUVCWORR@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 


KITBASH


all caps

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Thu, Mar 2, 2017 1:28 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas/Branchline sale



I finally found the Atlas page (my previous search yielded just one car). Could somebody please send me the code for the sale price? I've lost the original message.
Yours Aye,

Garth Groff




Re: Atlas/Branchline sale

SUVCWORR@...
 


KITBASH

all caps

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Thu, Mar 2, 2017 1:28 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas/Branchline sale



I finally found the Atlas page (my previous search yielded just one car). Could somebody please send me the code for the sale price? I've lost the original message.
Yours Aye,

Garth Groff



PRR Rf walkaround

Richard Brennan
 

All

Yet another crystal-clear freight car 'walkaround' photo series on the ErieLack archive site...
from the NPS Steamtown collection posted by Richard McKnight;

PRR 102549 Class Rf - built 9-06... photos circa-1919

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-02-17/X1441.jpg
...good variety in the background as well!
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-02-17/X1442.jpg
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-02-17/X1443.jpg
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-02-17/X1444.jpg

Note the narrower (replacement?) sheathing to the left of the dimensional data...


--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Atlas/Branchline sale

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

I finally found the Atlas page (my previous search yielded just one car). Could somebody please send me the code for the sale price? I've lost the original message.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Jon Miller
 

On 3/2/2017 8:48 AM, SUVCWORR@... [STMFC] wrote:

Frankly It sounds like atlas site has errors either in its shipping table or how the weight, and size of the branchline kits are being calculated. 

    Not unusual for internet sites.  For example many of the big box stores I order from (when I'm in N CA)  think I'm only 30/40 miles from 99.  They can't seem to understand that from Covelo to highway 99 (I5 ?) has a 7,000 mountain in the way.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Ribbed-Back Wheels

Tony Thompson
 

Randy Hammill quoted Bob Karig:

 

"The initial single-plate design (in 1928) did not include the brackets with which cast-iron wheels are often identified, but these were added in 1938 to reinforce the rim and the flange."And figure 6.34 on the prior page identifies it as a "bracket or rib."

The brackets were also on the earlier double-plate design that the single-plate design replaced.

      I made the same point in my article in _Model Railroad Hobbyist_ in the issue for September 2016. (you can read or download it for free at their websiste, www.mrhmag.com ). The term "arms" was also used for the ribs or brackets. I tried in that article, incidentally, to point out the many myths that have been circulated to explain why the ribs are there, and to give the factual reason: strengthening the wheel.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

SUVCWORR@...
 

I just ordered 46 cars by phone and shipping was $10 to Pittsburgh, PA

Rich Orr


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From: Brian carlson prrk41361@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Thu, Mar 2, 2017 11:45 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale



Frankly It sounds like atlas site has errors either in its shipping table or how the weight, and size of the branchline kits are being calculated. 

Brian J. Carlson

On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:29 AM, 'C. Strickland' cstrickjr@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
 Since I started this thread, I went back to the Atlas site and tried again.  Same story, $70.92 for 19 freight cars & $70.53 UPS.  I can get it next day air for 430.86.  So I revised the order to 7 cars.  Same song, second verse; $22.98 for the cars and $20.47 UPS or $36.95 USPS Priority.  I have never gotten the low cost options that Jon Miller said he got.
 
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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Brian Carlson
 

Frankly It sounds like atlas site has errors either in its shipping table or how the weight, and size of the branchline kits are being calculated. 

Brian J. Carlson

On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:29 AM, 'C. Strickland' cstrickjr@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

 Since I started this thread, I went back to the Atlas site and tried again.  Same story, $70.92 for 19 freight cars & $70.53 UPS.  I can get it next day air for 430.86.  So I revised the order to 7 cars.  Same song, second verse; $22.98 for the cars and $20.47 UPS or $36.95 USPS Priority.  I have never gotten the low cost options that Jon Miller said he got.
 
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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

C. Strickland <cstrickjr@...>
 

 Since I started this thread, I went back to the Atlas site and tried again.  Same story, $70.92 for 19 freight cars & $70.53 UPS.  I can get it next day air for 430.86.  So I revised the order to 7 cars.  Same song, second verse; $22.98 for the cars and $20.47 UPS or $36.95 USPS Priority.  I have never gotten the low cost options that Jon Miller said he got.
 
Craig Strickland



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