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Re: "Vehicle" Car

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <rwitt_2000@...> wrote :

According to the book PM Revenue Freight Cars by Million and Paton this series, 42650-43149, was listed as "Vehicle" wood and were built for automobile service. The builders photo on page 28 shows a car stenciled with "Vehicle". Apparently they didn't necessarily have larger doors when built, but the authors state that they were 17" taller than other box cars in their fleet. There are roster notes stating that by 1908 25 cars had full size end doors and by 1911 48 cars were so equipped. Later by 1931, after the date of the photo, some cars were rebuilt with staggered double-doors.

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At the time those cars were built, it is just as likely they would be carrying parts for carriages as automobiles. Both tend to be odd shapes that don't pack tightly in a boxcar, thus the oversize cars. Some railroads included furniture in the mix, and marked their cars VEHICLE AND FURNITURE. As the carriage trade disappeared, the ARA adopted AUTOMOBILE as the standard marking for an oversize boxcar.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Erie & DL&w stockcars

Brad Andonian
 

Eric,


Erie

Single deck:  67575-67699

Double deck:  67025-67084

DL&w 
50200-50249 single deck

Thank you,
Brad Andonian 

On Monday, March 6, 2017, 7:53 AM, Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Brad,

Can you supply car number series for these?


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


On March 6, 2017 at 8:46 AM "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" wrote:



I am seeking build dates for the Erie single and double deck stock cars.    Also wish to have the same on DL&w single deck.   These were 40' cars.

Thank you,



More NPS photos: PRR 411797 and GET 35895

Richard Brennan
 

More car photos today on the ErieLack archive site...
part of the NPS Steamtown collection posted by Historian/Archivist Pat (Richard) McKnight;

Today:
PRR 411797 ...a well-worn H21A 4-bay Coke car... built in March 1912
X1459--Rolling Stock--Pennsylvania Railroad Coke Hopper no. 411797--Side [1919-1920]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1459.jpg

X1460--Rolling Stock--Pennsylvania Railroad Coke Hopper no. 411797--End [1919-1920]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1460.jpg

X1461--Rolling Stock--Pennsylvania Railroad Coke Hopper no. 411797--Side [1919-1920]
http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1461.jpg

...plus a last look at GET 35895 - the Government Equipment Trust USRA hopper.
X1458--Rolling Stock--G.E.T. Hopper car no. 35895--View of coupler [1919-1920]
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1458.jpg
The small brake cylinder and truck bearing info stenciling is clearly visible...


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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Re: Erie & DL&w stockcars

Eric Hansmann
 

Brad,

Can you supply car number series for these?


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


On March 6, 2017 at 8:46 AM "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:



I am seeking build dates for the Erie single and double deck stock cars.    Also wish to have the same on DL&w single deck.   These were 40' cars.

Thank you,



Erie & DL&w stockcars

Brad Andonian
 

I am seeking build dates for the Erie single and double deck stock cars.    Also wish to have the same on DL&w single deck.   These were 40' cars.

Thank you,


Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Eric Hansmann
 

I've bought several different Vallejo paint colors through a little joint called Amazon.

Micro-Mark also offers many of the Model Air colors and they relabeled them to reflect Floquil and Polly-S colors. I bought several of those and was disappointed in the labeling. But an inexpensive color wheel helped me understand some basics and I typically add drops of other color to achieve my end results. For instance, my go-to mineral brown starts with a Burnt Umber and I add 10 drops of aged white to lighten the color. I covered some of this mixing in a recent blog post on car painting.

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/02/18/fresh-paint/



Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


On March 6, 2017 at 8:13 AM "Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:



On 3/6/2017 7:03 AM, 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC] wrote:
 It is mostly used by military modelers, so check out the local shops that cater to that crowd

    A couple of good train shops withing 50 miles of me but no military that I know of.  Any mail order folks you know of?  I assume because of formula shipping is not a problem.  Also a site that shows colors/sizes/costs?

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS



Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Bill Welch
 

Just Google "Vallejo" and you will see their website plus numerous venders.

Bill Welch


Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Nelson Moyer
 

Very nice build, Eric. That car has so much character, that I really wanted to get one until I checked the 1953 ORER and found that only eighty-two 36’ stock cars are listed for UP, one 35576, one 36357, and eighty 36752-38149. You didn’t give the series range for your car, but it probably fits in somewhere with the onesies, and not the eighties, meaning that I can’t justify one on my roster. That’s the down side of prototype modeling, i.e. it requires self-discipline and restraint.

By contrast, the CB&Q had 2699 37’ stock cars in 1953, so if you want to model stock trains of that era, it’s a good prototype, and even if you don’t model the CB&Q, it’s highly likely that at least one SM-16 or SM-18 would show up in your trains from time to time. The Q leased Mather stock cars, so while the Sunshine kits are no more, the P2K Mather cars lettered for CB&Q could be used for the occasional off road stock car.

Nelson Moyer

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Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield S-40-1 stock car



The latest Westerfield kit is featured on the Resin Car Works blog. Check out the build summary on a classic S-40-1 stock car.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/westerfield-s-40-1-stock-car/







Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: "Vehicle" Car

Al Kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Thanks, Al Kresse

On March 5, 2017 at 11:28 PM "rwitt_2000@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

According to the book PM Revenue Freight Cars by Million and Paton this series, 42650-43149, was listed as "Vehicle" wood and were built for automobile service. The builders photo on page 28 shows a car stenciled with "Vehicle". Apparently they didn't necessarily have larger doors when built, but the authors state that they were 17" taller than other box cars in their fleet. There are roster notes stating that by 1908 25 cars had full size end doors and by 1911 48 cars were so equipped. Later by 1931, after the date of the photo, some cars were rebuilt with staggered double-doors.

The car in the photo #42794 doesn't appear to have end doors, but it does have a lumber door.

Regards,

Bob Witt


 


Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 3/6/2017 7:03 AM, 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC] wrote:
 It is mostly used by military modelers, so check out the local shops that cater to that crowd

    A couple of good train shops withing 50 miles of me but no military that I know of.  Any mail order folks you know of?  I assume because of formula shipping is not a problem.  Also a site that shows colors/sizes/costs?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Bruce Smith
 

Jon,

Vallejo? It’s been around for years (since 1965).  It is mostly used by military modelers, so check out the local shops that cater to that crowd, like my local USA Hobbies.  I used the older non “air” formulation which requires massive thinning for airbrushing. It, and Model Master are the only hobby supplies available within 100 miles of me!  Vallejo is also making a very interesting line of weathering products.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Mar 6, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



On 3/6/2017 6:23 AM, Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
on the Resin Car Works blog

    Interesting new (?) name in paint.  Apparently not available on the west coast.  Mail order?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS




Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 3/6/2017 6:23 AM, Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
on the Resin Car Works blog

    Interesting new (?) name in paint.  Apparently not available on the west coast.  Mail order?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Westerfield S-40-1 stock car

Eric Hansmann
 

The latest Westerfield kit is featured on the Resin Car Works blog. Check out the build summary on a classic S-40-1 stock car.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/westerfield-s-40-1-stock-car/




Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: New Accurail 36-foot box cars

Bernhard Schroeter
 

I'm looking forward for different paint schemas of these cars! However one is an absolute need, the ladder steps and handholds are to remove and must be replaced by such made from wire!
Here a picture where I did same on 40ft models - http://us-modelsof1900.de/wp-content/gallery/1930er-modelle/ab-brake_10ks.jpg

 

Bernhard - http://us-modelsof1900.de





Re: GET 35895 - four more NPS photos

rwitt_2000
 

Here's the 3/4 view of G.E.T. 35895.

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-04-17/X1452.jpg

According to Lane's article on the USRA fleet in Railroad History No. 128 these cars from series GET 35812-35999 were renumbered in 1920 to D&TSL 1000-1185, [The Detroit and Toledo Shore Line].

Bob Witt


Re: "Vehicle" Car

rwitt_2000
 

According to the book PM Revenue Freight Cars by Million and Paton this series, 42650-43149, was listed as "Vehicle" wood and were built for automobile service. The builders photo on page 28 shows a car stenciled with "Vehicle". Apparently they didn't necessarily have larger doors when built, but the authors state that they were 17" taller than other box cars in their fleet. There are roster notes stating that by 1908 25 cars had full size end doors and by 1911 48 cars were so equipped. Later by 1931, after the date of the photo, some cars were rebuilt with staggered double-doors.

The car in the photo #42794 doesn't appear to have end doors, but it does have a lumber door.

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: "Vehicle" Car

Al Kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Single door car.   Might be Auto or Vehicle parts????  Only guessing.


Al Kresse

On March 5, 2017 at 9:11 PM "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

 

 

 

I noticed that Pere Marquette 42794, a single door boxcar, has the word "Vehicle" instead of the expected "Automobile". Is there any significance to this or is it just the preference of the PM paint shop?


http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-02-08-17/X1347-1.jpg

 

 

 

Bob Chaparro

 

Hemet, CA

 

 


 


"Vehicle" Car

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I noticed that Pere Marquette 42794, a single door boxcar, has the word "Vehicle" instead of the expected "Automobile". Is there any significance to this or is it just the preference of the PM paint shop?


http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-02-08-17/X1347-1.jpg

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: New Accurail 36-foot box cars

Matt Goodman
 

Agreed, thanks for the review.  My local shop has yet to get them in after a couple initial ones trickled in.

Matt Goodman
Columbus, OH, US


On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:15 AM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



Really appreciate seeing this "First Look" Eric. I suggest using the Precision Scale Retainer Valve part #PSC31796 instead of the Tichy part. They come four to a packet and they are very fine jewel like replicas of the real thing.

Bill Welch




HO Red Caboose Mather Meat Reefer and Santa Fe '37 AAR kits

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have 11 mint new old stock Red Caboose factory decorated kits which I am offering for purchase.
All are factory new, and have undisturbed, tissue wrapped contents.

RC 1014-1  M-I-D Packing Co Mather Meat Reefer MONX #1030
Same, RC 1014-2  MONX #1033
Same, RC  1014-3 MONX #1036
Same, RC 1014-5 1014-5 MONX #1044
RC 1016-1 IOWA BEEF PACKERS Mather Meat Reefer I.B.P.X. #63250

RC 8030-1e ATSF #138005 straight map El Capitan 40' '37 single door AAR box car
RC 8030-3e ATSF #138101 straight map Super Chief
RC 8030-3h ATSF #138249 straight map Super Chief
RC 8030-3j  ATSF #138128 straight map Super Chief
RC 8030-4i  ATSF #138019 straight map Grand Canyon
RC 8017-a   ATSF #138114 straight map Chief

Offered at $19 each. Shipping is $2.85 and up. I accept checks and money orders. for a small fee I also accept PayPal. Please contact me OFF-LIST at
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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