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Sand Loads in HO?
Hi all,
What product do you use for making an HO scale sand load in a gondola? I don't want to use any kind of food product (such as flour). I'm willing to color it with paint and washes. The only commercial product I'm finding is the one by Motrak. That one might work - but it is white and would require color changes. And all of the sources I've been able to find want as much or more to ship it as the load costs! This is to represent "sand being delivered to an engine facility for RR use such as for locomotives" - the sand seen at a sand tower. It will go in an Intermountain ATSF Caswell gondola (if that makes a difference). - Jim B.
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
frograbbit602
Jon one mail order place for Vallejo Model Air or Model Color is MicroMark.
Lester Breuer
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Re: Erie & DL&w stockcars
Eric Hansmann
Brad,
The best I can do is offer an approximation based upon ORER listings.
Erie 67025-67084 - Double deck - not listed in the October 1926 ORER but 60 are listed in the 1943 ORER
Erie 67575-67699 - Single deck – not listed in the October 1926 ORER but 47 are listed in the 1943 ORER
I do not have resources for a point between 1926 and 1943.
DL&W 50200-50249 - single deck – 48 cars are listed in the October 1926 ORER and 47 are listed in the 1943 ORER
The May 1925 ORER does not list these DL&W stock cars.
I hope that helps a bit.
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
From:
STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Erie
Single deck: 67575-67699
Double deck: 67025-67084
DL&w 50200-50249 single deck
Thank you, Brad Andonian
On Monday,
March 6, 2017, 7:53 AM, Eric Hansmann eric@...
[STMFC] wrote:
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Jon Another store was Game Kastle which caters to the war game set but mostly in the South Bay. Ken Adams WC CA
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Re: "Vehicle" Car
Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <rwitt_2000@...> wrote : According to the book PM Revenue Freight Cars by Million and Paton this series, 42650-43149, was listed as "Vehicle" wood and were built for automobile service. The builders photo on page 28 shows a car stenciled with "Vehicle". Apparently they didn't necessarily have larger doors when built, but the authors state that they were 17" taller than other box cars in their fleet. There are roster notes stating that by 1908 25 cars had full size end doors and by 1911 48 cars were so equipped. Later by 1931, after the date of the photo, some cars were rebuilt with staggered double-doors. ============================ At the time those cars were built, it is just as likely they would be carrying parts for carriages as automobiles. Both tend to be odd shapes that don't pack tightly in a boxcar, thus the oversize cars. Some railroads included furniture in the mix, and marked their cars VEHICLE AND FURNITURE. As the carriage trade disappeared, the ARA adopted AUTOMOBILE as the standard marking for an oversize boxcar. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Erie & DL&w stockcars
Brad Andonian
Eric,
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Erie Single deck: 67575-67699 Double deck: 67025-67084 DL&w 50200-50249 single deck Thank you, Brad Andonian
On Monday, March 6, 2017, 7:53 AM, Eric Hansmann eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
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More NPS photos: PRR 411797 and GET 35895
More car photos today on the ErieLack archive site...
part of the NPS Steamtown collection posted by Historian/Archivist Pat (Richard) McKnight; Today: PRR 411797 ...a well-worn H21A 4-bay Coke car... built in March 1912 X1459--Rolling Stock--Pennsylvania Railroad Coke Hopper no. 411797--Side [1919-1920] http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1459.jpg X1460--Rolling Stock--Pennsylvania Railroad Coke Hopper no. 411797--End [1919-1920] http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1460.jpg X1461--Rolling Stock--Pennsylvania Railroad Coke Hopper no. 411797--Side [1919-1920] http://lists.railfan.net/lists/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1461.jpg ...plus a last look at GET 35895 - the Government Equipment Trust USRA hopper. X1458--Rolling Stock--G.E.T. Hopper car no. 35895--View of coupler [1919-1920] http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-06-17/X1458.jpg The small brake cylinder and truck bearing info stenciling is clearly visible... -------------------- Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA --------------------
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Re: Erie & DL&w stockcars
Eric Hansmann
Brad, Can you supply car number series for these? Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
On March 6, 2017 at 8:46 AM "Brad Andonian cereshill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Erie & DL&w stockcars
Brad Andonian
I am seeking build dates for the Erie single and double deck stock cars. Also wish to have the same on DL&w single deck. These were 40' cars.
Thank you,
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Eric Hansmann
I've bought several different Vallejo paint colors through a little joint called Amazon. Micro-Mark also offers many of the Model Air colors and they relabeled them to reflect Floquil and Polly-S colors. I bought several of those and was disappointed in the labeling. But an inexpensive color wheel helped me understand some basics and I typically add drops of other color to achieve my end results. For instance, my go-to mineral brown starts with a Burnt Umber and I add 10 drops of aged white to lighten the color. I covered some of this mixing in a recent blog post on car painting. http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/02/18/fresh-paint/ Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
On March 6, 2017 at 8:13 AM "Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Bill Welch
Just Google "Vallejo" and you will see their website plus numerous venders.
Bill Welch
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Nelson Moyer
Very nice build, Eric. That car has so much character, that I really wanted to get one until I checked the 1953 ORER and found that only eighty-two 36’ stock cars are listed for UP, one 35576, one 36357, and eighty 36752-38149. You didn’t give the series range for your car, but it probably fits in somewhere with the onesies, and not the eighties, meaning that I can’t justify one on my roster. That’s the down side of prototype modeling, i.e. it requires self-discipline and restraint.
By contrast, the CB&Q had 2699 37’ stock cars in 1953, so if you want to model stock trains of that era, it’s a good prototype, and even if you don’t model the CB&Q, it’s highly likely that at least one SM-16 or SM-18 would show up in your trains from time to time. The Q leased Mather stock cars, so while the Sunshine kits are no more, the P2K Mather cars lettered for CB&Q could be used for the occasional off road stock car. Nelson Moyer From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 8:23 AM To: 1914to1940RRingr@yahoogroups.com <1914to1940RRing@yahoogroups.com>; earlyrail@yahoogroups.com; resinfreightcars@yahoogroups.com; proto-layouts@yahoogroups.com; STMFC YahooGroup <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [STMFC] Westerfield S-40-1 stock car The latest Westerfield kit is featured on the Resin Car Works blog. Check out the build summary on a classic S-40-1 stock car. http://blog.resincarworks.com/westerfield-s-40-1-stock-car/ Eric Hansmann RCW web guy
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Re: "Vehicle" Car
Al Kresse <water.kresse@...>
Thanks, Al Kresse
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 3/6/2017 7:03 AM, 'Bruce F.
Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC] wrote:
It is mostly used by military modelers, so check out the local shops that cater to that crowd A couple of good train shops withing 50 miles
of me but no military that I know of. Any mail order folks you
know of? I assume because of formula shipping is not a
problem. Also a site that shows colors/sizes/costs? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Jon,
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Vallejo? It’s been around for years (since 1965). It is mostly used by military modelers, so check out the local shops that cater to that crowd, like my local USA Hobbies. I used the older non “air” formulation which requires massive thinning
for airbrushing. It, and Model Master are the only hobby supplies available within 100 miles of me! Vallejo is also making a very interesting line of weathering products.
Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/ "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 3/6/2017 6:23 AM, Eric Hansmann
eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
on the Resin Car Works blog Interesting new (?) name in paint.
Apparently not available on the west coast. Mail order? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Westerfield S-40-1 stock car
Eric Hansmann
The latest Westerfield kit is featured on the Resin Car Works blog. Check out the build summary on a classic S-40-1 stock car. http://blog.resincarworks.com/westerfield-s-40-1-stock-car/ Eric Hansmann
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Re: New Accurail 36-foot box cars
Bernhard Schroeter
I'm
looking forward for different paint schemas of these cars! However one
is an absolute need, the ladder steps and handholds are to remove and
must be replaced by such made from wire!
Here a picture where I did same on 40ft models - http://us-modelsof1900.de/wp-content/gallery/1930er-modelle/ab-brake_10ks.jpg
Bernhard - http://us-modelsof1900.de
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Re: GET 35895 - four more NPS photos
rwitt_2000
Here's the 3/4 view of G.E.T. 35895.
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-03-04-17/X1452.jpg According to Lane's article on the USRA fleet in Railroad History No. 128 these cars from series GET 35812-35999 were renumbered in 1920 to D&TSL 1000-1185, [The Detroit and Toledo Shore Line]. Bob Witt
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Re: "Vehicle" Car
rwitt_2000
According to the book PM Revenue Freight Cars by Million and Paton this series, 42650-43149, was listed as "Vehicle" wood and were built for automobile service. The builders photo on page 28 shows a car stenciled with "Vehicle". Apparently they didn't necessarily have larger doors when built, but the authors state that they were 17" taller than other box cars in their fleet. There are roster notes stating that by 1908 25 cars had full size end doors and by 1911 48 cars were so equipped. Later by 1931, after the date of the photo, some cars were rebuilt with staggered double-doors.
The car in the photo #42794 doesn't appear to have end doors, but it does have a lumber door. Regards, Bob Witt
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