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Re: Era of PFE car

Bruce Smith
 

George,


That sounds like one of two experimental paint schemes.  If the road name is classic PFE lettering, this is sometimes know as the "curved corner scheme". It was created in 1936 and, based on the PFE Book (Thompson, Church and Jones), at least 22 cars received this scheme. The cars were rebuilt from R-30-5 and -6 with arch bar trucks.  Car 11007 is an R-30-6-11 1/2 and is pictured in the PFE book.  A single R-30-11-4 received a similar scheme with Pacific Fruit Express in Script lettering.  That scheme may have only lasted a few months. Both schemes have the Overland banner the Union Pacific Shield with the script car having a Union Pacific System shield, while #11007's shield is lettered "Union Pacific" (without "system").


All-in-all a rare scheme, that was short lived, on a small number of cars, in a huge fleet.


Regards

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


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I've been offered a PFE wood reefer with an oval paint scheme.  From the photo it appears to have brown paint on the upper corners and green paint on the lower corners.  I cannot blow the photo up enough to see even the car number let alone the data.  There is a single UP colored herald on the side.

I've googled and visited seveal modeling sites looking for a photo and info without sucess.  Could someone tell me the era for this car?  If so, thanks.


George Courtney




Re: Era of PFE car

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

That was a one off car.

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wrote:
 

I've been offered a PFE wood reefer with an oval paint scheme.  From the photo it appears to have brown paint on the upper corners and green paint on the lower corners.  I cannot blow the photo up enough to see even the car number let alone the data.  There is a single UP colored herald on the side.

I've googled and visited seveal modeling sites looking for a photo and info without sucess.  Could someone tell me the era for this car?  If so, thanks.


George Courtney


Re: Era of PFE car

Jack Burgess
 

That sounds like the NMRA 2000 national convention car. Twenty-two cars were painted in the “curved corner” scheme in 1936. Except for the curved corners, the cars were otherwise painted in typical PFE colors and lettering. The curved corners were removed by October 1938 according to Tony Thompson’s PFE book.



Jack Burgess



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I've been offered a PFE wood reefer with an oval paint scheme. From the photo it appears to have brown paint on the upper corners and green paint on the lower corners. I cannot blow the photo up enough to see even the car number let alone the data. There is a single UP colored herald on the side.

I've googled and visited seveal modeling sites looking for a photo and info without sucess. Could someone tell me the era for this car? If so, thanks.



George Courtney










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Era of PFE car

George Courtney
 

I've been offered a PFE wood reefer with an oval paint scheme.  From the photo it appears to have brown paint on the upper corners and green paint on the lower corners.  I cannot blow the photo up enough to see even the car number let alone the data.  There is a single UP colored herald on the side.

I've googled and visited seveal modeling sites looking for a photo and info without sucess.  Could someone tell me the era for this car?  If so, thanks.


George Courtney


Re: Boxcars At Auto Plant

John Barry
 

Bob,

I would hazard that these are inbound parts based on the apparent fixed racks inside the three single sheathed cars with open doors nearest the plant.  The first two of those three MIGHT be ATSF Fe-U's as the brace pattern is consistent and I see a hint of a DN end on the first car.  The white blob is in the correct location for an Fe-U herald, but I can't make it out.  The structures in the cars looks like the auto body racks shown on p47 of the Furniture and Auto Boxcar book.  I'm less certain about the side sills on those cars as it seems a little deeper than I would have thought for the Fe-U.  The fishbelly side sills on the next four cars is distinctive and not a good match for a Santa Fe prototype.  Wonder what those were?  
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



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Subject: [STMFC] Boxcars At Auto Plant

 
This 1935 image is from the Huntington Library Digital Archives (http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/) and shows the Studebaker plant in the
Central Manufacturing District in Los Angeles:
 
 
Use the slider above the images to enlarge it.
 
As to the boxcars lined up at the plant, would anyone hazard a guess as to whether these brought parts in, were ready to receive finished automobiles or were in dual service?
 
Also notice the apparent game of craps in the foreground.
 
By the way, there are many railroad photographs on the Huntington Library site.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet. CA



Re: RPC 34

John Barry
 

Mine was in a locker at the post office downstairs from work.  I brought it back upstairs and restrained myself for the rest of the work day.  I did peruse a very useful set of photos riding the MARC back to Point of Rocks.  Thanks Pat and Ed!  
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



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       Walked in from getting the mail not too long ago. I saw a well-padded envelope stuffed in the mailbox and thought how I need to get a larger mailbox back up. (The county, when one of their snow plows knock down your mailbox, puts in this ¾ size version. Does not hold railroad books. Don’t ask me how I know this.)  

      Walk in the house and look at the envelope expecting it to be something the wife ordered. No, it has RPC stamped on the return address area. I carefully open it and have been looking over the RPC 34. I really do not know where to start, nice photos, great reproduction on these photos. Photos across a broad spectrum. Diagrams and more. Due to these photos I am now wanting cars that I did not know I wanted.

       What to say as I am somewhat at a loss for words on how nice this issue is.  Well I was always taught that if you get something you like and don’t know what to say, then say “thank you”.

       To Ed Hawkins and Pat Wider, a very big THANK YOU.           Jim Dick – St. Paul, MN

 PS - If you did not reserve one of these, get down to your local hobby store and have them hold one for you.






Re: RPC 34

Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
 

I also received mine copy yesterday OUTSTANDING!

Don Ford 
Cameron MO


On Saturday, April 1, 2017 8:55 PM, "'Douglas Harding' doug.harding@... [STMFC]"


 
Mine arrived the other day. 192 pages, 2 or 3 photos on every page. Even some color. A treasure trove to be sure.
 
Doug Harding
 



Re: RPC 34

Douglas Harding
 

Mine arrived the other day. 192 pages, 2 or 3 photos on every page. Even some color. A treasure trove to be sure.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


RPC 34

np328
 


       Walked in from getting the mail not too long ago. I saw a well-padded envelope stuffed in the mailbox and thought how I need to get a larger mailbox back up. (The county, when one of their snow plows knock down your mailbox, puts in this ¾ size version. Does not hold railroad books. Don’t ask me how I know this.)  


      Walk in the house and look at the envelope expecting it to be something the wife ordered. No, it has RPC stamped on the return address area. I carefully open it and have been looking over the RPC 34. I really do not know where to start, nice photos, great reproduction on these photos. Photos across a broad spectrum. Diagrams and more. Due to these photos I am now wanting cars that I did not know I wanted.


       What to say as I am somewhat at a loss for words on how nice this issue is.  Well I was always taught that if you get something you like and don’t know what to say, then say “thank you”.


       To Ed Hawkins and Pat Wider, a very big THANK YOU.           Jim Dick – St. Paul, MN


 PS - If you did not reserve one of these, get down to your local hobby store and have them hold one for you.





Re: Boxcars At Auto Plant

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I also saw photos of auto frames and partially finished auto bodies loaded in gondolas that were shipped to this plant.


I need to find these photos again.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Boxcars At Auto Plant

Nolan Hinshaw
 

To me the building is as interesting and significant as the adjacent rolling stock; it's a classic example of industrial Art Deco, with the curved roofs of the sawtooth skylights and the vertically-striated treatment of the façade, to name a few details.--
Nolan Hinshaw, San Francisco
"Not only is it not right, it's not even wrong!"
From Wolfgang Pauli, perpetrator of the Pauli Exclusion Principle


Reefer On L.A. Junction Railway

thecitrusbelt@...
 

An image from the Los Angeles Public Library:

 

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics27/00048175.jpg

 

Caption: A train of the L.A. Junction Railway Co. is stopped in front of the warehouse of the Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Co., importers of tea. Photo dated: January 7, 1932.

 

Can anyone identify the class of SFRD reefer on this train?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: CGW PS-0 car kit

radiodial868
 

I've come across similar cars from my 1939 modeled era in images. All were K brakes originally that were retrofitted to AB brakes. I guess when you think about, why cut holes in the center sill to run piping when you could just stick the components on the same side. My latest was a GN 40' 30000 series DS.
Usual arrangement seems to be in a diagonal, with the cylinder being forward of where the K brake was next to the sill, the reservoir next (towards the A end), and the control valve last next to the side sill.
RJ Dial
Burlingame, CA


Re: Some Ebay 1950s slides of freight cars

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Somebody put some Visine on those slides. Visine gets the red out! LOL!





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http://www.ebay.com/sch/Slides/71011/m.html?_ssn=rrphotogs&_sop=10



Hello-

A slide dealer I know well has about 30 freight car slides on Ebay, many which are 1950s and some 1960s shots. Go to Ebay, search "rrphotogs" and reduce search to "slides", then newly listed.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Boxcars At Auto Plant

thecitrusbelt@...
 

This 1935 image is from the Huntington Library Digital Archives (http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/) and shows the Studebaker plant in the

Central Manufacturing District in Los Angeles:

 

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p16003coll2/id/30238/rec/16

 

Use the slider above the images to enlarge it.

 

As to the boxcars lined up at the plant, would anyone hazard a guess as to whether these brought parts in, were ready to receive finished automobiles or were in dual service?

 

Also notice the apparent game of craps in the foreground.

 

By the way, there are many railroad photographs on the Huntington Library site.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet. CA


Re: Using "The Tool" (truck ream)?

Tim O'Connor
 


I have never heard of any mechanical advantage to roller bearing equipped
freight cars. When a car is rolling there is virtually no friction at all for
either plain or roller bearings. Any friction would result in uncontrollable
increases in heat that would melt the journal.

In very cold weather, the oil in plain bearings does provide some resistance but
it warms up quickly.

Hand brakes are typically applied on standing freight cars.



Some have wondered what the benefit of replacing wheelsets for a better fit and rolling characteristics. The real benefit is that the pulling power of your locomotives will appear to be very much enhanced, because you can pull a longer train of cars with properly adjusted trucks.
Spen Kellogg

I saw a recent post from a member of a historical society/museum that indicated this happens in the prototype world as well - when they got their first car, a passenger car, equipped with roller bearings they learned a lot of their apparently level trackage wasn't.

--
Jeff Shultz


Re: CGW PS-0 car kit

Fred Jansz
 

Thanks Ted, could do that indeed. Owever, I studied the picture of CGW 90036 and I'm quite sure the brake gear parts like reservoir, AB valve and cylinder are all situated on the L-side of the car.
Normally you'd see the reservoir hanging on the R-side of the car, just right of the door, which is not the case on this picture of CGW 90036. All the gear is hung on the other side of the center sill.
best regards,
Fred 'WP' Jansz


Re: Some Ebay 1950s slides of freight cars

Tim O'Connor
 

A slide dealer I know well has about 30 freight car slides on Ebay, many which are 1950s and some 1960s shots. Go to Ebay, search "rrphotogs" and reduce search to "slides", then newly listed.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: CGW PS-0 car kit

Tim O'Connor
 


Every photo seems to show a different arrangement - I have TC, NKP, MRS photos.

If you can check Mainline Modeler, February 1988, p.40-45 John Nehrich's "PS-0"
article w/ drawings and a builder photo of CGW #90017

Tim O'Connor


One more if I may. Does anyone know the brake arrangement of these early 'PS-0' cars? I followed the underbody drawing of the F&C instructions which shows the AB-brake arrangement in the usual way: AB-valve opposite to the reservoir.

However, when I turned the page I saw a picture of a B&LE 'PS-0' that shows cylinder, AB-valve and resevoir all on one side of the car next to each other.
What would be the correct brake gear arrangement for the CGW-version I'm building?
Thanks.
Fred Jansz


Some Ebay 1950s slides of freight cars

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
A slide dealer I know well has about 30 freight car slides on Ebay, many which are 1950s and some 1960s shots. Go to Ebay, search "rrphotogs" and reduce search to "slides", then newly listed.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA