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Re: Solid Bearings vs. Roller Bearings

Tony Thompson
 

Todd Horton wrote:

 
Here's a video (may be old news to some) about grain elevators in Canada.  The guy working the elevator is able to start moving, what appears to be plain bearing trucks under a box car, with the help of a lever and then push it into place by hand.   Even after the car is loaded he still is capable of moving the car by hand. 

      I have seen video of  the same done with plain bearings, moving the car a couple of inches with a pry bar, then further rolling by hand.

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ladder nomenclature - from Wikipedia

Schuyler Larrabee
 

The vertical members of a rigid ladder are called stringers or rails (US) or stiles (UK).

 

Guys, it’s been driving me nuts to read about ladder styles.  That’s not what they are called.  The vertical parts are stringers, rails or stiles.

 

The horizontal parts are called “rungs.”

 

Schuyler

 


Re: Solid Bearings vs. Roller Bearings

Todd Horton
 

Here's a video (may be old news to some) about grain elevators in Canada.   The guy working the elevator is able to start moving, what appears to be plain bearing trucks under a box car, with the help of a lever and then push it into place by hand.     Even after the car is loaded he still is capable of moving the car by hand. 

Of course the track could be on a downhill grade, but it's still interesting. 



 
Todd Horton



From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Solid Bearings vs. Roller Bearings

 
So what other mechanical considerations favor the use of all roller bearings?
Bob Chaparro


The main advantage was reduced labor costs (frequent inspection and lubrication) and a statistically smaller
likelihood of derailments due to journal bearing failure. Railroads were reluctant to buy them because of their
higher installation costs and as someone mentioned, the benefits mostly accrued to other railroads. Some
railroads continued to buy plain bearings on new cars until it was finally banned.

Tim O'Connor



Re: new Speedwitch reefer book

gary laakso
 

It is real eye candy and arrived within 2 days of the RP CYC 34.  They are both joys to look at and contain huge amounts of visual information.  Congratulations on the excellence of the final products.

Gary Laakso
south of Mike Brock


On Apr 5, 2017, at 2:47 PM, npin53@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Mine came yesterday and it was worth every cent. A must for any model RR library.

Well done Ted.

Aaron Gjermundson


A NEW EPIPHANY ON YARMOUTH LADDERS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

I have been a big fan of Pierre's ladders since they came out. At first (like many) I had some difficulty executing the bends. With practice I mastered this procedure. Properly placing the styles in the bending machine has also proven to be a challenge. Recently I am using Pierre's styles to improve the appearance of the ends of some USRA box cars.
I use the bent style over the cast on style on the outboard side. I shear off half of the style for the inner part. I use the bending tol for this clamping ithe half with the holes inboard and using the Micor Mark small saw to shear off the outer half.

This morning I learned that placing toe etching in the tool was easier if I did not remove it from the overall fret. You guys probably knew this all the time but kept this to yourself.

Sometmes a simple solution makes life so much easier

Bill Pardie


Re: new Speedwitch reefer book

O Fenton Wells
 

Amen, Ed and all mine came today and it is excellent

--
Fenton Wells
5 Newberry Lane
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-1144
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Re: new Speedwitch reefer book

npin53
 

Mine came yesterday and it was worth every cent. A must for any model RR library.

Well done Ted.

Aaron Gjermundson


new Speedwitch reefer book

ed_mines
 

I've been building freight car models since the late '70s and have many, many freight photos and books.

It's been years since I've seen a freight car book with so many pictures I haven't seen before.

Unlike the earlier spiral bound reference manuals in the series (which are excellent), this one is printed on the finest quality paper, the same as the NMRA book.


Ed Mines


Re: Pennzoil Tank Cars

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Group!

I looked up the "Pennzoil" name and found it listed in 'our time' associated with the South Penn Company.  Neither name appears in my 1946 and 1958 ORERs but there is a Pennzoil United, Inc. in the 1970 ORER with ERCX reporting marks.  Elk Refining Co. was of Charleston, West Virginia and is listed in 1946.  These guys had 132 cars then.  They are in the 1955 Tariff.  Pennzoil was, before 1963, an Oil City, Penna. company, Elk was none the less associated with Pennzoil of Bob's question.  I looked up Elk Refining and found that they were in the earlier Pennzoil family and had their refinery in WV.

So, do your looking for Elk Refining Co. (ERCX) to seek out the "Pennzoil" tank car story.

Regards from Grove City, Penna.----Mike Schleigh



From: "thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:44 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Pennzoil Tank Cars

 
A friend of mine recalls seeing a Pennzoil tank car parked at a facility in Wilmington, CA. The car had a pipe attached underneath that went through a fence and into a building on the property. He was told they were filling quart cans on their canning line for Pennzoil retail sales .
 
He described the tank car as black with white or aluminum lettering and the Pennzoil logo. It was not the bright yellow seen from an earlier time period on toy train sets that may or may not have been prototypical.
 
Does anyone know more about this kind of Pennzoil tank car? Were there other, more colorful Pennzoil tank cars?
 
Thanks.
 
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
 



Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

John Barry
 

Al,

Per your request.  Somehow I missed pasting your personal address before I hit send the other day.  My apologies for any embarrassment.

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "Allan Smith smithal9@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 
John 
Please contact me off list.

Al Smith
Sonora Ca
Smithal9@...


On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 3:15 PM, "harperandbrown@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Claus,

Nice model.

Jared Harper





Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

John Barry
 

Claus,

Very nice work.  You do recall correctly that I am an HO modeler, for once jealous of the superior availability of an N scale offering that doesn't seem to be offered in HO.

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "'Claus Schlund' claus@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 
Hi John, Al, and List Members,

John, here is an in-service image of my model of CB&Q 195451.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/30610106755_10cfe49bee_o.jpg

I made some modifications and did some superdetailing on it, but the car is available in RTR plastic from Micro-Trains in N scale.
John, you did not mention what scale, but as I recall from your past posts you model HO scale, correct?

I can send you some prototype images of this car series if you like, send me an email and let me know.

Claus Schlund




Re: Touchup paint

Jared Harper
 

Clark,

I have done the same.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


---In STMFC@..., <cepropst@...> wrote :

A friend picked up a GN plywood sided Intermountain RTR box car at a train show a couple Saturdays ago for $5. The model had a reweigh date of 1956, newer than the time I model, so I checked with Bob Heninger. He said I’d be ok backdating the reweigh. I was sticking on some chalk mark decals and wondered if some of the appliances may need to be replaced, knowing the generic parts IM always puts on their models. Bob suggested I replace the US Gypsum running board with an Apex because of the car’s number. I had a Kadee oxide colored one so that was canopy glued on. The color wasn’t even close to the rest of the car. I looked through my dwindling paint supply which didn’t get me any closer. So, I dug out my craft paints I bought at Wal-Mart for 50 cents a bottle. I use them to touch up my layout backdrops. I mixed a dark red, brown, tan and light gray to come up with a match, or real close. I don’t know if these craft paints would work on all touchups, but they are something to consider when replacing parts on decorated models.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

Allan Smith
 

John 
Please contact me off list.

Al Smith
Sonora Ca
Smithal9@...


On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 3:15 PM, "harperandbrown@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Claus,

Nice model.

Jared Harper



Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

Jared Harper
 

Claus,

Nice model.

Jared Harper


Touchup paint

Clark Propst
 

A friend picked up a GN plywood sided Intermountain RTR box car at a train show a couple Saturdays ago for $5. The model had a reweigh date of 1956, newer than the time I model, so I checked with Bob Heninger. He said I’d be ok backdating the reweigh. I was sticking on some chalk mark decals and wondered if some of the appliances may need to be replaced, knowing the generic parts IM always puts on their models. Bob suggested I replace the US Gypsum running board with an Apex because of the car’s number. I had a Kadee oxide colored one so that was canopy glued on. The color wasn’t even close to the rest of the car. I looked through my dwindling paint supply which didn’t get me any closer. So, I dug out my craft paints I bought at Wal-Mart for 50 cents a bottle. I use them to touch up my layout backdrops. I mixed a dark red, brown, tan and light gray to come up with a match, or real close. I don’t know if these craft paints would work on all touchups, but they are something to consider when replacing parts on decorated models.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Pennzoil Tank Cars

thecitrusbelt@...
 

A friend of mine recalls seeing a Pennzoil tank car parked at a facility in Wilmington, CA. The car had a pipe attached underneath that went through a fence and into a building on the property. He was told they were filling quart cans on their canning line for Pennzoil retail sales .

 

He described the tank car as black with white or aluminum lettering and the Pennzoil logo. It was not the bright yellow seen from an earlier time period on toy train sets that may or may not have been prototypical.

 

Does anyone know more about this kind of Pennzoil tank car? Were there other, more colorful Pennzoil tank cars?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi John, Al, and List Members,

John, here is an in-service image of my model of CB&Q 195451.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/30610106755_10cfe49bee_o.jpg

I made some modifications and did some superdetailing on it, but the car is available in RTR plastic from Micro-Trains in N scale. John, you did not mention what scale, but as I recall from your past posts you model HO scale, correct?

I can send you some prototype images of this car series if you like, send me an email and let me know.

Claus Schlund


Re: Resin car assembler wanted

Jared Harper
 

Thanks!

Jared Harper


Re: M3A1 flat car loads was Re: NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos

Robert Heninger
 

The cars all look a little swaybacked to me. No wonder you see pictures of flatcars with broken centersills.

Regards,
Bob Heninger
Minot, ND


M3A1 flat car loads was Re: NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos

Bruce Smith
 

​​​To be precise, the tanks are M3A1, of which 300 were produced by the American Locomotive Company between February and August 1942.  272 were powered by Wright radial aircraft engines, while 28 were powered by Gurberson T-1400-2 diesels. A view with a better resolution also shows the blue USA serial number markings from early in the war, for those contemplating M3 loads ;)  

Here's a 3/4 view of the NC&St.L FM-7 #70035 with M3A1 load

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086599-v8.jpg

The photos is from the Archives of Canada, and while unlabeled as to date or location, some additional photos that are clearly in the same group are labeled Buffalo as the location.  I'm struggling to see reweigh dates on any of these cars.


M10 tank destroyer on SP 40585

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086603-v8.jpg


M3A1 Lee on BAR 71710

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086601-v8.jpg

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086600-v8.jpg


Given that each of these cars has the horizontal "plumb line", it appears that this might have been part of a loading test?


Regards

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL



From: STMFC@... on behalf of fgexbill@... [STMFC]
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 4:02 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos
 


I like to promote "Ya'll RR" freight cars whenever possible. Speedwitch has issued decals for the NC&StL's three groups of nominal 40-ft flatcars. Photos of the FM-7 are rare and I thought I would share those I have. The FM-7 will require some moderate kit-bashing using the Tichy flat car kit as it had fewer stake pockets than the later two groups. Great opportunity to use those interesting and early Kadee Andrews trucks. The M-3 cast hull Medium Tank load on #70035 is interesting but ultra rare. Note the "plumb line" strung between the sill steps. Happy modeling: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zry7jfrggty1yln/AAClxVCbiZhSofaZQjVfLYIPa?dl=0


Bill Welch

 



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