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Re: using blue flags

rwitt_2000
 

I found a court judgement from 1911 deigning damages for not using them so it has to be earlier than that.

Bob Witt


Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954

Dave Parker
 

Schuyler:

I've had the same issue, but there is an easy fix.  Just go to the Yahoo group page.  Every message is archived there, in chronological order.  That's my backup when I delete a message that I later want to re-read.  And the archived messages can be easily searched by keyword.

Best,

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:00 AM, "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
OK this is just a whine . . .

When commenting on a linked photo, could you please include the link to the photo? Some of us delete a lot of emails, and thereby lose the links, but when comments like this one and Don’s are made, I can’t go back and see what I missed on the first viewing. Thanks.

Schuyler

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:15 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954

Don,

Not just rare, but unique. There was only one. Too bad nobody thought to save it.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff

On 4/30/17 8:20 AM, riverman_vt@... [STMFC] wrote:

---In STMFC@..., wrote :

The steam alone makes this worthwhile viewing, but then ALCO PA's and FA's in a variety of road schemes. Wow! What a historical bonanza!

R. Glueck

Not to mention the rare Ingalls Shipbuilding 4S switcher and an overhead view of it from the rear too boot!

That is a rare and hard to beat view!

Cordially, Don Valentine






Re: using blue flags

Stic Harris
 

Tony,

Nice blogs!
Do you (or anyone else on this list) know when this practice began?

Stic

Sent from Stic's iPad

On Apr 30, 2017, at 03:35, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I recently got interested in modeling and using blue flags, and wrote two blog posts, one about the prototype and one about how I decided to make model blue flags. If you're interested, here are links to the two posts:

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/04/blue-flags.html

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/04/blue-flags-part-2-modeling.html

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954

Schuyler Larrabee
 

OK this is just a whine . . .



When commenting on a linked photo, could you please include the link to the photo? Some of us delete a lot of emails, and thereby lose the links, but when comments like this one and Don’s are made, I can’t go back and see what I missed on the first viewing. Thanks.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 10:15 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954





Don,

Not just rare, but unique. There was only one. Too bad nobody thought to save it.

Yours Aye,



Garth Groff

On 4/30/17 8:20 AM, riverman_vt@yahoo.com [STMFC] wrote:



---In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <mailto:richard_glueck@...> <richard_glueck@...> wrote :

The steam alone makes this worthwhile viewing, but then ALCO PA's and FA's in a variety of road schemes. Wow! What a historical bonanza!



R. Glueck





Not to mention the rare Ingalls Shipbuilding 4S switcher and an overhead view of it from the rear too boot!

That is a rare and hard to beat view!



Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Don,

Not just rare, but unique. There was only one. Too bad nobody thought to save it.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 4/30/17 8:20 AM, riverman_vt@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
---In STMFC@..., wrote :

The steam alone makes this worthwhile viewing, but then ALCO PA's and FA's in a variety of road schemes.  Wow!  What a historical bonanza!

R. Glueck


   Not to mention the rare Ingalls Shipbuilding 4S switcher and an overhead view of it from the rear too boot!
That is a rare and hard to beat view!

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954

riverman_vt@...
 

---In STMFC@..., <richard_glueck@...> wrote :

The steam alone makes this worthwhile viewing, but then ALCO PA's and FA's in a variety of road schemes.  Wow!  What a historical bonanza!

R. Glueck


   Not to mention the rare Ingalls Shipbuilding 4S switcher and an overhead view of it from the rear too boot!
That is a rare and hard to beat view!

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: using blue flags

Tim O'Connor
 


I like it ! Unfortunately I heard Don Manlick passed away. I don't know
if anyone picked up his art work. He made many interesting decals.

Tim O'Connor




I recently got interested in modeling and using blue flags, and wrote two blog posts, one about the prototype and one about how I decided to make model blue flags. If you're interested, here are links to the two posts:

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/04/blue-flags.html

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/04/blue-flags-part-2-modeling.html

Tony Thompson


using blue flags

Tony Thompson
 

I recently got interested in modeling and using blue flags, and wrote two blog posts, one about the prototype and one about how I decided to make model blue flags. If you're interested, here are links to the two posts:

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/04/blue-flags.html

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/04/blue-flags-part-2-modeling.html

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Table Saw

spsalso
 

Randy,

Thanks for describing you method of setup.  I am sure it will be helpful for all who wish to go the "multi-cut" route.

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Table Saw

qmp211
 

Ed,

I clamp the car upside down to 2 angle plates in a flat bottom sled and use the fence to adjust cut line. The 2 angle plates ride against the end rails so I can clamp the plates to the sled.

On lengthwise cuts you only need to rotate the car 90º to vertical and reclamp and make the short cut. Flip ends and repeat.

Like Dennis said, if the set-up is good, you can flip end-to-end and 'usually' hit the kerf. If not, I've found it easier to hit the kerf line from the tall 1st cut if I need to adjust.

Randy Danniel


Re: Table Saw

spsalso
 

Randy,

You provide some interesting information.

I am interested in what you use for a setup to make your cuts when you slice through a car body.  The Dremel saw has a depth of cut of 1".  Which is less than the thickness or height of an HO house car.  So you have to make at least 2 passes.  And I assume you have to do some repositioning.  My whole reason for suggesting using a larger saw was to eliminate repositioning of the part and possible consequent inaccuracies.



Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Table Saw

spsalso
 

Randy,

First note that the car is rough cut previous to this operation.  Trying to do this operation as if one is slicing the car "in half" is not a good approach with a mill.  You will note that I have said this previously, so it is not a surprise.

I place the car (part) with the opening (floor) downwards, with the car parallel to the table.  It could as well be placed with the opening upwards.  It really doesn't matter, except the details of the clamping.

Such a car would be clamped by two bars crossing perpendicular to the long axis of the car.  The bars are secured by screws down to the table.  Some auxiliary shim-like pieces have to be installed so that the load goes down through the sides, rather than through the center of the roof.

There are risers under the work for clearance of any tabs or steps, and to allow cutter clearance.

The path I take is such that the cutter goes from back to front and makes a cut.  It is then lowered and repeated.  Keep in mind that the cutter is trimming the rough cut.  It is not making the original cut.

As I said, I use an internal block.  Properly installed, the sides will not do any flapping.



Ed

Edward Sutorik 


Re: Table Saw

qmp211
 

The Dremel 580 Table Saw Blades & Accessory Replacements

Ed & Others,

The Dremel saws are readily available used on ebay.

Slotting saws - ground round, flat and no set. As a result, you can push them too hard and overheat them. Common sense applies. These are precision tools, not framing blades for a chop saw. 
4" slotting saw, .025", 300 tooth blade
4" slotting saw, .032", 220 tooth blade

Carbide blade - the only one I have personal experience still available is the Japanese manufactured 4" 40 tooth carbide blade from Micro-Mark. Be wary of cheap blades, carbide blades can throw the carbide tips, the cheaper the quicker.
http://www.micromark.com/40-Tooth-Saw-Blade-4-Inch-Dia-1-2-Inch-Hole

Aftermarket manufacturers now offer great accessories for the Dremel saw. Originally, I improved the original miter gauge by adding a Lexan fence and added a piece of molding to the fence. I clamp the fence at the rear of the table with a "C" clamp. All of this was after using a dial indicator, machinist square and steel rule to align the blade perpendicular to the table top and then aligning the blade/arbor/motor assembly perpendicular to the miter gauge slots, IF you can. You need to check that the fence is parallel to the blade infeed and outfeed. I run the saw most often close to max height. 80% of what I normally cut is a 90 so my machinist square gets used for every set-up. 

You will find 2 ebay sellers that offer Dremel saw replacement accessories.
aclrails1965 offers fence, miter gauge, sled and backplate with dust collection. Fence and miter gauge are nice stuff. 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/aclrails1965/m.html?item=252900782796&hash=item3ae20fb2cc%3Am%3Am18DMfN-8PCCfRd1-lx4vNg&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

back plate with dust collection
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DREMEL-580-TABLE-SAW-BACK-DUST-PLATE-W-BLADE-LOCK-/252900782796?hash=item3ae20fb2cc:m:m18DMfN-8PCCfRd1-lx4vNg

adjustable rip fence
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DREMEL-580-TABLE-SAW-CUSTOM-MADE-POLISHED-ALUM-ADJ-RIP-FENCE-NICE-ITEM-/262956145424?hash=item3d39685b10:g:hUkAAOSw2xRYUsjs

replacement aluminum throat plate blanks are no longer available
use styrene to make your own filler for the Dremel throat plate. Don't be afraid to flatten the original throat plate high spots with a hammer. Dremel's punch press quality wasn't so hot.

Speed control - about 1/3 - 1/2 speed, depends on material and thickness
Dremel model 219 or any other universal motor speed controller. A good dimmer switch will work.

Watch some youtube table saw tuneup videos or get a tablesaw tuneup book. You can apply most techniques to the Dremel saw.

Some might opine that after spending all this money why not spend more and buy a Byrnes?  The Byrnes is a very nice saw. The Dremel will cut thicker material. You decide, what are my goals? I am very fortunate to have the Dremel, Micro-Mark tilt arbor and the Byrnes, the last 2 bought used off ebay after selling some never-to-be-used kits. I use the Dremel the most. Don't know why, just do.

This will get you started.

Randy Danniel







Re: Table Saw

qmp211
 

Ed,

I'm confused, I'm old.....

Hobby mill or larger?

Use a boxcar with roof, no floor as an example.

How is it clamped to the mill table?

Are you following a path up one side, across the roof and down the other? Or what?

How do you prevent the car sides from flappin' in the wind like a plastic banshee?

Thanks.

Randy Danniel


BLI Tank cars

hubert mask
 

For those that are looking for BLI tank cars.  Visit my web site at maskislanddecals.com  scroll to the bottom of the page under product categories, Broad Way Limited Imports.  I have 3 four packs left priced right and includes shipping.


Hubert Mask


Mask Island Decals inc.


Re: BLI 6k tank cars

spsalso
 

I surely wouldn't mind buying some Hooker-Tacoma cars.  If they existed.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: BLI 6k tank cars

Tim O'Connor
 


It's good they sold out so fast, because that probably guarantees future releases.
Hopefully the next run will have paint schemes for people who model after 1950 ...
... and 1960 ...

Tim O'





Sorry, John.  They are gone and I checked with BLI the run is sold out.

Rich


Re: BLI 6k tank cars

SUVCWORR@...
 

Mea culpa for the reply to the whole list

Rich Orr


-----Original Message-----
From: SUVCWORR@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: BLI 6k tank cars



Sorry, John.  They are gone and I checked with BLI the run is sold out.

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: golden1014@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 2:34 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: BLI 6k tank cars



Hi Rich, got any of those cars left?  John Golden




Re: BLI 6k tank cars

SUVCWORR@...
 

Sorry, John.  They are gone and I checked with BLI the run is sold out.

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: golden1014@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 2:34 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: BLI 6k tank cars



Hi Rich, got any of those cars left?  John Golden


Re: Warren Tank Cars In-train in 1954

Tim O'Connor
 


Bill and everyone, FYI, you can see from the URL Bill posted that the photos
are all actually HOSTED on Flickr (owned by Yahoo, now part of Verizon)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/railphotoart/28005007790/

Also, downloading them is trivial if you use Firefox (in spite of the "disabled"
notices from the web sites). Rule #1 on web photos - if you can see them, then you
can download them.

Tim O'Connor






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