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Re: Don't be chicken

James SANDIFER
 

Overland also made a brass model in HO. Having seen the real thing in St. Louis and having studied a lot of photos, the models don’t do them justice. It is very difficult to model all of the internal racks that support the individual cages of birds.

 

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Ed Ambroid did have a wood kit ( a box of sticks as the RTR crowd calls them ) for a combination reefer poultry car which in ORER had a class of SPR.   The combination reefer, one side reefer and one side poultry cages, used  to carry cheese and eggs to community or pick-up eggs and poultry for market.  YE Old Huff and Puff had a wood kit for a poultry car, poultry cages on both sides of the attendant area.  I have built one for a friend.  I have built the Ambroid combination reefer and have it in service on my railroad.  I could post a quick photo on "resinfreightcars" website or send you a photo of it if you are interested.   Otherwise if you google poulty cars you can find images of the built Ambroid.   Finally if there was a Mainline kit I have never seen one.

Lester Breuer

 

Re: Don't be chicken (Drawing in MODEL RAILROADER)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

It was July 1961, Page 26.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Don't be chicken

Richard Townsend
 

Many years ago MR had plans for a poultry car. I'm thinking it was in the 1960s, maybe 1950s. have spent the last couple of hours looking for my copy of it, to no avail.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

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From: 'Claus Schlund' claus@... [STMFC]
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Thanks Don for your thoughts and research.

I checked the 1916 CBD, and it also has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 732.

I checked the 1912 CBD, and it also has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 732, also Live Poultry Transportation 500
(a 36ft car without truss rods), American Poultry Car Co 101 (a 36ft car with truss rods), and a car built by Milwaukee Refrigerator
Transit & Car Co.

I checked the 1895 CBD, and it has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 121 (a 33ft 10in car with truss rods) that looks
like it might be similar to the type represented in the drawing but not an exact match.

I'm wondering if the drawing might be from a trade periodical of the time, and not from a CBD.

Claus Schlund

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From: "riverman_vt@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken

>
>
>
> ---In STMFC@..., wrote :
>
> Hi Bob and List Members,
>
> Especially interesting to me is that one of the images is a drawing for a poultry car - see link below.
>
> http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg
> http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg
>
> Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient to read any of the text. Anyone know where the image might have come from? Is this
> diagram from a CBD or TSC that anyone recognizes right off?
>
> Claus Schlund
>
>
> My money says it IS out of a CBC based upon the way it is presented. BUT, I have a 1919 CBC and it is not in there so I
> suspect the 1916 or the 1912 issue. The 1919 issue does offer a photo of Live Poultry Transportation Co. #732 on page #348 but it
> is constructed differently and appears to be a steel underframe car. The truss rods shown clearly in the drawing are not present
> in the CBC photo.
>
>
> Cordially, Don Valentine
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Don't be chicken

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Lester Breuer wrote:


YE Old Huff and Puff had a wood kit for a poultry car . . . Finally if there
was a Mainline kit I have never seen one.


Didn't The Huff buy the whole line of Mainline kits?

Tony



Tony's correct on this.


Schuyler

Re: Resin Car Works

dale florence <dwwesley@...>
 

Never had a problem with Resin Car Works website.

Dale Florence



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Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 7:45 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Resin Car Works



Is anyone else experiencing trouble connecting to Resin Car Works website?  I’ve tried three different web browsers for the last three weeks with no joy.
 
George Corral
La Grange, KY
“The Train Runs Through It”




Re: Resin Car Works

Eric Hansmann
 

George,

It just worked for me on my phone and I had not used my phone to check the site in awhile. 

Try clearing your history, cookies, and cache on a browser and try again. 



Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On May 6, 2017, at 5:45 PM, 'George Corral' aileron44@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Is anyone else experiencing trouble connecting to Resin Car Works website?  I’ve tried three different web browsers for the last three weeks with no joy.

 

George Corral

La Grange, KY

“The Train Runs Through It”

Re: Resin Car Works

George Corral
 

Is anyone else experiencing trouble connecting to Resin Car Works website?  I’ve tried three different web browsers for the last three weeks with no joy.

 

George Corral

La Grange, KY

“The Train Runs Through It”

Re: Don't be chicken

Eric Hansmann
 

FYI, business is temporarily closed. 



Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On May 6, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Lester Breuer wrote:

 

YE Old Huff and Puff had a wood kit for a poultry car . . . Finally if there was a Mainline kit I have never seen one.


 Didn't The Huff buy the whole line of Mainline kits?
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Re: Don't be chicken

Tony Thompson
 

Lester Breuer wrote:

 

YE Old Huff and Puff had a wood kit for a poultry car . . . Finally if there was a Mainline kit I have never seen one.


 Didn't The Huff buy the whole line of Mainline kits?
Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
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Re: Don't be chicken

Eric Hansmann
 

There is a great broadside of PPKX 5064 on page 59 of the new Focus on Freight Cars Volume 10. The photo is not dated and I don’t see a clear reweigh date, but the car was built in 1924.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 

 

 

 


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We really, REALLY need an upgraded, modern version of these cars. Yes, I know about the brass model, but I'm thinking resin.

Anyone who models urban areas in the 1900-1940 period needs one or two of these cars. Plus, they're just plain cool.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL

 


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At 01:23 PM 5/6/2017, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] wrote:


>I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.



...actually, I think there were at least two:

- Ambroid Series 1 #10 - Speedy Poultry - the half & half style
(chicken & eggs) LPTX 4002
- Ambroid K-13 Palace Poultry Car 'Livesay' - LPTCo 2501


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Re: Don't be chicken

frograbbit602
 

Ed Ambroid did have a wood kit ( a box of sticks as the RTR crowd calls them ) for a combination reefer poultry car which in ORER had a class of SPR.   The combination reefer, one side reefer and one side poultry cages, used  to carry cheese and eggs to community or pick-up eggs and poultry for market.  YE Old Huff and Puff had a wood kit for a poultry car, poultry cages on both sides of the attendant area.  I have built one for a friend.  I have built the Ambroid combination reefer and have it in service on my railroad.  I could post a quick photo on "resinfreightcars" website or send you a photo of it if you are interested.   Otherwise if you google poulty cars you can find images of the built Ambroid.   Finally if there was a Mainline kit I have never seen one.
Lester Breuer

Re: Don't be chicken

Bill Welch
 

I have trying to get Al to come to CCB for years Jeff.

Bill Welch

Re: Don't be chicken

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Thanks Don for your thoughts and research.

I checked the 1916 CBD, and it also has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 732.

I checked the 1912 CBD, and it also has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 732, also Live Poultry Transportation 500 (a 36ft car without truss rods), American Poultry Car Co 101 (a 36ft car with truss rods), and a car built by Milwaukee Refrigerator Transit & Car Co.

I checked the 1895 CBD, and it has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 121 (a 33ft 10in car with truss rods) that looks like it might be similar to the type represented in the drawing but not an exact match.

I'm wondering if the drawing might be from a trade periodical of the time, and not from a CBD.

Claus Schlund

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---In STMFC@..., <claus@...> wrote :

Hi Bob and List Members,

Especially interesting to me is that one of the images is a drawing for a poultry car - see link below.

http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg

Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient to read any of the text. Anyone know where the image might have come from? Is this
diagram from a CBD or TSC that anyone recognizes right off?

Claus Schlund


My money says it IS out of a CBC based upon the way it is presented. BUT, I have a 1919 CBC and it is not in there so I suspect the 1916 or the 1912 issue. The 1919 issue does offer a photo of Live Poultry Transportation Co. #732 on page #348 but it is constructed differently and appears to be a steel underframe car. The truss rods shown clearly in the drawing are not present in the CBC photo.


Cordially, Don Valentine




Re: Don't be chicken

Ray Breyer
 

We really, REALLY need an upgraded, modern version of these cars. Yes, I know about the brass model, but I'm thinking resin.
Anyone who models urban areas in the 1900-1940 period needs one or two of these cars. Plus, they're just plain cool.
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



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At 01:23 PM 5/6/2017, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] wrote:

>I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.


...actually, I think there were at least two:

- Ambroid Series 1 #10 - Speedy Poultry - the half & half style
(chicken & eggs) LPTX 4002
- Ambroid K-13 Palace Poultry Car 'Livesay' - LPTCo 2501


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Re: Don't be chicken

Donald B. Valentine
 




---In STMFC@..., <eric@...> wrote :

I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.

 

Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits?

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 


    Or the easy way with an Overland Models version in brass .......

if you can find one.


Cordially, Don Valentine

 

Re: Don't be chicken

Donald B. Valentine
 




---In STMFC@..., <claus@...> wrote :

Hi Bob and List Members,

Especially interesting to me is that one of the images is a drawing for a poultry car - see link below.

http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg

Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient to read any of the text. Anyone know where the image might have come from? Is this
diagram from a CBD or TSC that anyone recognizes right off?

Claus Schlund


    My money says it IS out of a CBC based upon the way it is presented. BUT, I have a 1919 CBC and it is not in there so I suspect the 1916 or the 1912 issue. The 1919 issue does offer a photo of Live Poultry Transportation Co. #732 on page #348 but it is constructed differently and appears to be a steel underframe car. The truss rods shown clearly in the drawing are not present in the CBC photo.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Don't be chicken

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I think Ambroid = Mainline. The difference was in what the box said (and
the instruction sheet, I suppose).



Schuyler



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I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.



Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits?



Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX









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Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars?



Ed Mines

Re: Don't be chicken

Richard Brennan
 

At 01:23 PM 5/6/2017, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.
...actually, I think there were at least two:

- Ambroid Series 1 #10 - Speedy Poultry - the half & half style (chicken & eggs) LPTX 4002
- Ambroid K-13 Palace Poultry Car 'Livesay' - LPTCo 2501


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Re: Don't be chicken

Eric Hansmann
 

I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.

 

Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits?

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX

 

 

 

 


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Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars?

 

Ed Mines

 

Re: Don't be chicken

ed_mines
 

Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars?


Ed Mines