Re: Don't be chicken
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Thanks Don for your thoughts and research.
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I checked the 1916 CBD, and it also has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 732. I checked the 1912 CBD, and it also has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 732, also Live Poultry Transportation 500 (a 36ft car without truss rods), American Poultry Car Co 101 (a 36ft car with truss rods), and a car built by Milwaukee Refrigerator Transit & Car Co. I checked the 1895 CBD, and it has a builder's image of Live Poultry Transportation 121 (a 33ft 10in car with truss rods) that looks like it might be similar to the type represented in the drawing but not an exact match. I'm wondering if the drawing might be from a trade periodical of the time, and not from a CBD. Claus Schlund
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From: "riverman_vt@yahoo.com [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken
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Re: Don't be chicken
Ray Breyer
We really, REALLY need an upgraded, modern version of these cars. Yes, I know about the brass model, but I'm thinking resin. Anyone who models urban areas in the 1900-1940 period needs one or two of these cars. Plus, they're just plain cool. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
From: "Richard Brennan rbrennan@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 3:46 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken At 01:23 PM 5/6/2017, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] wrote: >I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit. ...actually, I think there were at least two: - Ambroid Series 1 #10 - Speedy Poultry - the half & half style (chicken & eggs) LPTX 4002 - Ambroid K-13 Palace Poultry Car 'Livesay' - LPTCo 2501 -------------------- Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA -------------------- ------------------------------------ Posted by: Richard Brennan <rbrennan@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: STMFC-digest@... STMFC-fullfeatured@... <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
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Re: Don't be chicken
riverman_vt@...
---In STMFC@..., <eric@...> wrote : I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.
Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits?
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
Or the easy way with an Overland Models version in brass ....... if you can find one. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Don't be chicken
riverman_vt@...
---In STMFC@..., <claus@...> wrote : Hi Bob and List Members, Especially interesting to me is that one of the images is a drawing for a poultry car - see link below. http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient to read any of the text. Anyone know where the image might have come from? Is this diagram from a CBD or TSC that anyone recognizes right off? Claus Schlund My money says it IS out of a CBC based upon the way it is presented. BUT, I have a 1919 CBC and it is not in there so I suspect the 1916 or the 1912 issue. The 1919 issue does offer a photo of Live Poultry Transportation Co. #732 on page #348 but it is constructed differently and appears to be a steel underframe car. The truss rods shown clearly in the drawing are not present in the CBC photo. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Don't be chicken
Schuyler Larrabee
I think Ambroid = Mainline. The difference was in what the box said (and
the instruction sheet, I suppose). Schuyler From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 4:23 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit. Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits? Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX _____ From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 2:12 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars? Ed Mines
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Re: Don't be chicken
At 01:23 PM 5/6/2017, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@hansmanns.org [STMFC] wrote:
I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit....actually, I think there were at least two: - Ambroid Series 1 #10 - Speedy Poultry - the half & half style (chicken & eggs) LPTX 4002 - Ambroid K-13 Palace Poultry Car 'Livesay' - LPTCo 2501 -------------------- Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA --------------------
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Re: Don't be chicken
Eric Hansmann
I had thought Ambroid had a poultry car kit.
Or did Mainline and Ambroid both produce poultry car kits?
Eric Hansmann El Paso, TX
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 2:12 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken
Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars?
Ed Mines
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Re: Don't be chicken
ed_mines
Didn't Mainline have a wood kit for one of these cars? Ed Mines
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Re: Don't be chicken
frograbbit602
Yes it is the attendant's quarters. A stove, a cot to sleep on and a small sink normally on the left side of photo. Most cars had access to feed boxes or water tanks above on roof or below floor from these quarters. All my research on poultry cars says an attendant required to ride with the car to provide water and feed as poultry required. Not the best job in the world.
Lester Breuer
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Re: Freight Car Roofs
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Jeff, Jim, and List Members,
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Jim asked: "Can someone explain the white spots on the first car I mentioned above?" The car appears to be a PRR class X29. As to the white spots, here is my theory: it is not uncommon for the loading area of an industrial building to have an awning covering the loading platform area - this awning would cover the stretch between the building loading doors and likely end a little way past the freight car door above the freight car roof. Any crud on the awning would wash down from there onto this section of freight car roof in the case where the car was parked there during a mild rainfall. Nice photo in any case. Claus Schlund
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From: "'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@intel.com [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:51 PM Subject: RE: [STMFC] Freight Car Roofs Jim,
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Re: Don't be chicken
Schuyler Larrabee
No. 1. Keeping the attendant alive in cold weather
No. 2. Avoiding getting to the destination with frozen birds. Schuyler From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 6:40 AM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken Why a stove or heater if the attendant is not traveling in the car? Bill Welch
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Re: Don't be chicken
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Bob and List Members,
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Especially interesting to me is that one of the images is a drawing for a poultry car - see link below. http://www.hoosiervalley.org/files/cache/3ac3e1f10e6da0f65bca601aea5f5d93_f448.jpg Unfortunately, the resolution is not sufficient to read any of the text. Anyone know where the image might have come from? Is this diagram from a CBD or TSC that anyone recognizes right off? Claus Schlund
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From: "oandle@yahoo.com [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 6:27 AM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Don't be chicken The Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum website has a very interesting article on the history and use of the Live Poultry Transit Company. This article can be found at www.hoosiervalley.org/history/turkeys-and http://www.hoosiervalley.org/history/turkeys-and-trains/. Bob Weston
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Re: Don't be chicken
Schuyler Larrabee
I'll second that opinion!
Schuyler From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 11:10 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [STMFC] Don't be chicken For that matter, Ed, when are YOU coming to Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach? We'd love to have you! -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 8:08 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [STMFC] Don't be chicken Ed, Thanks! Do you have contact info for him? Perhaps it's time for him to educate a new audience in Cocoa Beach. Regards, -Jeff From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 7:17 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Don't be chicken On May 5, 2017, at 9:09 PM, 'Aley, Jeff A' Jeff.A.Aley@intel.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Many moons ago, there was a fellow who came to Martin Lofton's California meetings (e.g. Pleasanton) and gave a clinic on Poultry Cars. Does anybody remember who that was (or is he an STMFC member)? Jeff, The fellow you refer to is Al Hoffman, aka, "The Railroad Poultry Car Expert." However, Al is not on the STMFC. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Freight Car Roofs
Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <jimbetz@...> wrote : Hi, So I'm sitting here staring - again - at the following image ... https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Roger-Kingsford-Photos/i-k8WX95c and (this time) I was focusing (again) on weathering on the car roofs in the lower left quadrant. And especially on the first car past/above the one with the farm equipment and the partial roof of the car in the lower right corner. Can someone explain the white spots on the first car I mentioned above? It looks to me like seagull crap... ======================= It's either bird droppings, or some sort of powder leaking from a pipe; either way, it only happens in one specific place. Note the other end of the car has the same thing, diagonally opposite, but those blotches are more weathered and spread out further. It would appear the car has made multiple trips to the place where it is picking up this material, turning end-for-end in the process. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Don't be chicken
Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <sarahsan@...> wrote : Doug, All I can say is, "Yecch!" Yours Aye,
Garth Groff Where is Mike Rowe when you need him? Dennis Storzek
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Re: Freight Car Roofs
Fred_Swa@...
Signage above a covered loading dock along SP Coast division is my guess.
Fred Swanson
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Re: Freight Car Roofs
Resending - forgot to strip off the "notify ..." junk
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Re: Don't be chicken
Clark Propst
I remember the attendants being in some of Al’s photos. They wore clothes
with white pok-a-dots all over them. Do you think the train crew would let them
in their caboose? ; ))
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: Don't be chicken
Bob Weston
The Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum website has a very interesting article on the history and use of the Live Poultry Transit Company. This article can be found at www.hoosiervalley.org/history/turkeys-and-trains/.
Bob Weston
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New Resin Car Works kit
Eric Hansmann
Resin Car Works has announced a new HO scale resin freight car kit. Check out the news on the Resin Car Works blog. http://blog.resincarworks.com/new-kit-announcement/ Eric Hansmann
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