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Staffan Ehnbom
 

Richard,

It would be reasonable to believe that standard GN steel ore cars like the 1929 built car no. 86251 in the Perry collection would be used for a move like this. I have a hunch there was a 35 miles per hour speed limit on GN ore trains on the Iron Range as well. I guess that would apply to trains forwarding these cars on the foreign road too. Just never heard the moniker "dump car" for a GN ore car. Learning something every day!

Staffan Ehnbom

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Staffan,
 
Thanks for your detailed reply. I have a lot of information on C&S freight cars, but it includes no information that the C&S bought any GN ore cars. I believe these were GN revenue service cars bringing iron ore to the Colorado Fuel and Iron furnaces in Pueblo. I suspect they came via the GN to Sioux City, Iowa, then to Denver via the CB&Q, and finally to Pueblo via the C&S. Alternatively there may have been some other routing via the UP to Denver, or even - maximizing the haul on the GN - to Billings, then via CB&Q to the C&S in Wyoming. I just found at the Denver Public Library site an Otto Perry photo of GN ore car 86251 taken at Derby, Colorado (Denver area) in 1936. It must have been very late in 1936 since the car has a reweigh date of 11-36. I I think this is the kind of car the bulletin is referring to.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 
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Richard,

Would you have any indication that these might be former GN (ore) cars bought by the C&S for use on line? There was an article inthe March/April 1981 Gazette on GN ore cars sold to several lines. Or would they be GN revenue service cars bringing ore from GN territory? In the latter case these are the GN cars that could dump a load: Aside from the steel ore cars mentioned there were still wood ore cars and the 180000 series wood 36' drop bottom coal & ore cars built 1900, the 72000 series looking like gons but with longitudinal bay hoppers (too large cars for iron ore?) and several series of 40' GS (perhaps less likely for ore sevice?), 73000 and 73200 series twin hoppers or 78000 series Hart convertible (ballast) cars. Some of the ubiquitous 40' truss rod box cars had hopper bottoms, but calling them "dump cars" might be pushing it a bit.

Staffan Ehnbom

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
I have at hand a selection of "bulletins" from the Colorado & Southern from the 1930s through the 1950s. They generally are one or two sentences and refer to things like a new siding being in place, specific operating instructions, and the like. One I am interested in following up on is from November 11, 1936, and says, "Trains handling Great Northern dump cars loaded with iron ore must not exceed a speed of 35 miles per hour." My question is, what would a "Great Northern dump car" have been in 1936?  
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 



Re: THINNER FOR FLOQUIL SOLVENT BASED PAINTS

Jeff Coleman
 

I used straight Tolune or Xylene for 20 years. Both bulk sources ran out, going to test Acetone based paint thinner next time I get out the airbrush.

Jeff Coleman


On May 10, 2017 2:16 PM, "WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 


I believe that this was discussed a short time ago and I thought that I had saved and printed the information but apparently not so.
Someone had documented the chemical components of the Floquil solvent based thinner.  Could someone please forward this to me?

Also is anyone using a commercial thinner that does not require mixing?

Thanks in advance:

Bill Pardie


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Richard Townsend
 

Staffan,
 
Thanks for your detailed reply. I have a lot of information on C&S freight cars, but it includes no information that the C&S bought any GN ore cars. I believe these were GN revenue service cars bringing iron ore to the Colorado Fuel and Iron furnaces in Pueblo. I suspect they came via the GN to Sioux City, Iowa, then to Denver via the CB&Q, and finally to Pueblo via the C&S. Alternatively there may have been some other routing via the UP to Denver, or even - maximizing the haul on the GN - to Billings, then via CB&Q to the C&S in Wyoming. I just found at the Denver Public Library site an Otto Perry photo of GN ore car 86251 taken at Derby, Colorado (Denver area) in 1936. It must have been very late in 1936 since the car has a reweigh date of 11-36. I I think this is the kind of car the bulletin is referring to.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

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To: STMFC
Sent: Wed, May 10, 2017 2:44 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC]

 
Richard,

Would you have any indication that these might be former GN (ore) cars bought by the C&S for use on line? There was an article inthe March/April 1981 Gazette on GN ore cars sold to several lines. Or would they be GN revenue service cars bringing ore from GN territory? In the latter case these are the GN cars that could dump a load: Aside from the steel ore cars mentioned there were still wood ore cars and the 180000 series wood 36' drop bottom coal & ore cars built 1900, the 72000 series looking like gons but with longitudinal bay hoppers (too large cars for iron ore?) and several series of 40' GS (perhaps less likely for ore sevice?), 73000 and 73200 series twin hoppers or 78000 series Hart convertible (ballast) cars. Some of the ubiquitous 40' truss rod box cars had hopper bottoms, but calling them "dump cars" might be pushing it a bit.

Staffan Ehnbom

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
I have at hand a selection of "bulletins" from the Colorado & Southern from the 1930s through the 1950s. They generally are one or two sentences and refer to things like a new siding being in place, specific operating instructions, and the like. One I am interested in following up on is from November 11, 1936, and says, "Trains handling Great Northern dump cars loaded with iron ore must not exceed a speed of 35 miles per hour." My question is, what would a "Great Northern dump car" have been in 1936?  
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 


THINNER FOR FLOQUIL SOLVENT BASED PAINTS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


I believe that this was discussed a short time ago and I thought that I had saved and printed the information but apparently not so.
Someone had documented the chemical components of the Floquil solvent based thinner.  Could someone please forward this to me?

Also is anyone using a commercial thinner that does not require mixing?

Thanks in advance:

Bill Pardie


Railway Prototype Cyclopedia photo index

Steve SANDIFER
 

Has anyone done a photo index of the RPC that you are willing to share?

 

Steve Sandifer


Re: Old Athearn Dome Height

Ken Soroos
 

Garth and List -

Globe also produced a three-dome version. On the box label, the kit here is described as “8000 GAL. TANK CAR / UTLX / 8300-A (Three Dome) Price _____ / IT’S THE BEST IN HO GAUGE.”  The car no. is 1252.  Domes are small.

The 1953 Model Railroad Equipment Corp. catalog lists five three-dome tank cars:  Athearn Deep Rock, Shippers Car Line, and UTLX, all $2.75 as well as Globe Shippers Car Line and UTLX, also all $2.75.  All five cars were black.

Ken Soroos

 

On May 10, 2017, at 5:01 AM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Jon,

The Globe short 8K tanks were made in single and twin dome versions (I have one of each). The domes on these cars were very small, though acceptable for the twin dome. The same dome casting was used with the single dome version, and it was way too small. Otherwise, these cars are pretty close to scale.

The longer 12 or 12.5K tank under discussion was originally offered by Globe, and possibly continued by Athearn. This car was very close to scale. I believe I have seen a three-dome long car, which had a 12 K tank. As such, it would have been grossly oversized with oversized domes (most triple dome cars were in the 6K range).

I don't know if Globe offered a jacketed "chemical" tank in either length.

As most of us are aware, the 12 K tanks were retooled in plastic by Athearn. While the single-dome car can be improved, the three-dome is a piece of doo-doo. Sad that Athearn didn't retool the smaller tank cars in plastic, but now we have a number of excellent choices to fill that niche (though not all types in styrene yet).

I also have most of an unbuilt Mantua 10K tank kit. It is missing the paper wrapper and some of the other small parts. Someday I'm going to put this together, probably with a smooth wrapper for a jacketed tank. Without milling machinery, fitting Kadee couplers to the underframe is nearly impossible. I may substitute a shortened Athearn plastic underframe. I still keep my eyes open for Thomas tanks, but they are even rarer than the Globe models.

The Globe/Athearn boxcars and reefers were later sold by Menzies and Reynolds. I think the tooling ended up with Bowser/English. AFAIK, nobody ever continued the 40 and 50-foot Globe flatcars, though the 40' was the same design as the later odd Athearn plastic car. Due to the number of stake pockets, the 40' car only represents a group of about 100 obscure Rutland flats.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: Stripping an Accurail boxcar

Joseph
 

Dave. Need to work on beam out tech otherwise shipping would be a killer!
Good luck, joe binish


On May 10, 2017, at 9:03 AM, 'David North' david.north@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Thanks to everyone who reply with advice on stripping Accurail cars.

Joe, thanks for the offer – it would get a bit pricey as I’m in Australia and my mate Phil is in the Phillippines (grin).

Cheers

Dave North


Re: Stripping an Accurail boxcar

David North
 

Thanks to everyone who reply with advice on stripping Accurail cars.

Joe, thanks for the offer – it would get a bit pricey as I’m in Australia and my mate Phil is in the Phillippines (grin).

Cheers

Dave North


Re: Don't be chicken

James McDonald
 

Dear List,

John White published an interesting article in the Summer 1989 issue of Agricultural History on live poultry cars that discusses a number of the questions that have been discussed in this thread. If you have access to JSTOR (I believe you can register for free) you can find it here: http://www.jstor.org/stable/3743735

Among a great many other things that make the article worth reading, White noted that access to the cars was through the side doors into the attendant’s room, and from there to the cage areas. Also, it seems that there was only one car design that featured removable coops, but this didn’t catch on. The majority of live poultry cars per the article were outfitted with large cages that were subdivided into adjustable compartments that could be reconfigured for the size and type of fowl shipped. White primarily focused on the Jenkins/Live Poultry Transport Co. cars, but he does mention competing designs and companies.

All the best,

James

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James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD

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2.1. Re: Don't be chicken
Posted by: "george eichelberger" geichelberger@bellsouth.net geichelberger@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue May 9, 2017 2:24 pm ((PDT))

Dennis:

Nothing inside the Southern cars at all.

Re the SNB article, in a railroad owned style of car style if there were 60,000 “head” in fifteen cars, we have approx 4,000 birds per car. If they made it to NYC in 24 (less?) hours, would that meet the “hog law” for chickens and not require an attendant? Did that rule even exist in 1919.

Ike

PS I am having a hard time believing 6,600,000 eggs! Carried in ? vent box cars?


Re: Old Athearn Dome Height

Tony Thompson
 

Athearn certainly continued the 12.5-k gallon metal tank models, and I have one in the original yellow kit box.
Tony Thompson 


On May 10, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Jon,

The Globe short 8K tanks were made in single and twin dome versions (I have one of each). The domes on these cars were very small, though acceptable for the twin dome. The same dome casting was used with the single dome version, and it was way too small. Otherwise, these cars are pretty close to scale.

The longer 12 or 12.5K tank under discussion was originally offered by Globe, and possibly continued by Athearn. This car was very close to scale. I believe I have seen a three-dome long car, which had a 12 K tank. As such, it would have been grossly oversized with oversized domes (most triple dome cars were in the 6K range).

I don't know if Globe offered a jacketed "chemical" tank in either length.

As most of us are aware, the 12 K tanks were retooled in plastic by Athearn. While the single-dome car can be improved, the three-dome is a piece of doo-doo. Sad that Athearn didn't retool the smaller tank cars in plastic, but now we have a number of excellent choices to fill that niche (though not all types in styrene yet).

I also have most of an unbuilt Mantua 10K tank kit. It is missing the paper wrapper and some of the other small parts. Someday I'm going to put this together, probably with a smooth wrapper for a jacketed tank. Without milling machinery, fitting Kadee couplers to the underframe is nearly impossible. I may substitute a shortened Athearn plastic underframe. I still keep my eyes open for Thomas tanks, but they are even rarer than the Globe models.

The Globe/Athearn boxcars and reefers were later sold by Menzies and Reynolds. I think the tooling ended up with Bowser/English. AFAIK, nobody ever continued the 40 and 50-foot Globe flatcars, though the 40' was the same design as the later odd Athearn plastic car. Due to the number of stake pockets, the 40' car only represents a group of about 100 obscure Rutland flats.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 5/9/17 6:48 PM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

On 5/9/2017 1:53 PM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
It is my understanding that Athearn bought out Globe in the early 1950s.
    True.
The steel boxcars and reefers were continued for a while, and eventually sold off to other producers.
    Menzies, or something like that.
It is possible that Athearn didn't continue the Globe tank cars.
    It's my understanding that the Globe tank cars were close to scale and 2 or 3 different types (someone mentioned a 2 dome).  Very hard to find now.


--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Railway Prototype Cyclopedia questions

Eric Hansmann
 

FYI, there is a link to a cumulative index on their main web page.

http://rpcycpub.com/


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX



On May 9, 2017 at 8:58 PM "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

Double sheathed in Vol. 16, rebuilds in Vol. 24.

Single sheathed in Vol. 17, including steel rebuilds.

There may be more.

Schuyler

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Athens, GA

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Staffan Ehnbom
 

Richard,

Would you have any indication that these might be former GN (ore) cars bought by the C&S for use on line? There was an article inthe March/April 1981 Gazette on GN ore cars sold to several lines. Or would they be GN revenue service cars bringing ore from GN territory? In the latter case these are the GN cars that could dump a load: Aside from the steel ore cars mentioned there were still wood ore cars and the 180000 series wood 36' drop bottom coal & ore cars built 1900, the 72000 series looking like gons but with longitudinal bay hoppers (too large cars for iron ore?) and several series of 40' GS (perhaps less likely for ore sevice?), 73000 and 73200 series twin hoppers or 78000 series Hart convertible (ballast) cars. Some of the ubiquitous 40' truss rod box cars had hopper bottoms, but calling them "dump cars" might be pushing it a bit.

Staffan Ehnbom

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

I have at hand a selection of "bulletins" from the Colorado & Southern from the 1930s through the 1950s. They generally are one or two sentences and refer to things like a new siding being in place, specific operating instructions, and the like. One I am interested in following up on is from November 11, 1936, and says, "Trains handling Great Northern dump cars loaded with iron ore must not exceed a speed of 35 miles per hour." My question is, what would a "Great Northern dump car" have been in 1936?  
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 



Re: Old Athearn Dome Height

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Jon,

The Globe short 8K tanks were made in single and twin dome versions (I have one of each). The domes on these cars were very small, though acceptable for the twin dome. The same dome casting was used with the single dome version, and it was way too small. Otherwise, these cars are pretty close to scale.

The longer 12 or 12.5K tank under discussion was originally offered by Globe, and possibly continued by Athearn. This car was very close to scale. I believe I have seen a three-dome long car, which had a 12 K tank. As such, it would have been grossly oversized with oversized domes (most triple dome cars were in the 6K range).

I don't know if Globe offered a jacketed "chemical" tank in either length.

As most of us are aware, the 12 K tanks were retooled in plastic by Athearn. While the single-dome car can be improved, the three-dome is a piece of doo-doo. Sad that Athearn didn't retool the smaller tank cars in plastic, but now we have a number of excellent choices to fill that niche (though not all types in styrene yet).

I also have most of an unbuilt Mantua 10K tank kit. It is missing the paper wrapper and some of the other small parts. Someday I'm going to put this together, probably with a smooth wrapper for a jacketed tank. Without milling machinery, fitting Kadee couplers to the underframe is nearly impossible. I may substitute a shortened Athearn plastic underframe. I still keep my eyes open for Thomas tanks, but they are even rarer than the Globe models.

The Globe/Athearn boxcars and reefers were later sold by Menzies and Reynolds. I think the tooling ended up with Bowser/English. AFAIK, nobody ever continued the 40 and 50-foot Globe flatcars, though the 40' was the same design as the later odd Athearn plastic car. Due to the number of stake pockets, the 40' car only represents a group of about 100 obscure Rutland flats.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 5/9/17 6:48 PM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

On 5/9/2017 1:53 PM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] wrote:
It is my understanding that Athearn bought out Globe in the early 1950s.
    True.
The steel boxcars and reefers were continued for a while, and eventually sold off to other producers.
    Menzies, or something like that.
It is possible that Athearn didn't continue the Globe tank cars.
    It's my understanding that the Globe tank cars were close to scale and 2 or 3 different types (someone mentioned a 2 dome).  Very hard to find now.


-- 
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For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Old Athearn Dome Height

Tony Thompson
 

No. The Athearn metal dome is full (correct) height. I have several.
Tony Thompson 


On May 9, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

On 5/9/2017 11:06 AM, mguill1224@... [STMFC] wrote:
old Globe and Athearn metal tank cars

    This is old memory as I don't have my old metal Athearn handy but I think the Globe and Athearn were different cars.  Never had a Globe.  I seem to remember that at least the dome on the metal Athearn was the same as the plastic one.

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Re: Real wood roof walks

Jim Betz
 

Guys,

Watch this space in about 2 to 3 weeks time. I'm working with a supplier
to get some wood strips in 1"x6"x16 foot lengths that I intend to work
thru how to 'pre-color' them before assembly and installation, how to
install them, and methods for post installation changes such as "final
weathering". My basic idea will be to start with several piles of boards
that are different shades of color ... build up a roof walk (hopefully with
the laterals attached) on the bench, and then finally to install them on
the car.
I may even provide 'kits' of boards to be used (I'm ordering a LOT of
them). I work in HO ... sorry to the guys who are in alternative scales.

I'm not opposed to doing roof walks with materials other than real
wood. But my experience is that the effects I'm going for (remember
the pic I provided a link to) are difficult at best and possibly even
nearly impossible to do if you are starting with a built up roof walk.
By "my experience" above I'm referring to the work I've done to do
the boards on a flat car - both in styrene and in scale wood ... and
those done in wood look a lot better than anything I've been able
to accomplish with "paint on styrene".
- Jim B.


Re: Railway Prototype Cyclopedia questions

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Double sheathed in Vol. 16, rebuilds in Vol. 24.

Single sheathed in Vol. 17, including steel rebuilds.



There may be more.



Schuyler



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I an wondering if the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia had articles on the USRA box car rebuilds, and on the SS USRA box cars?



Jared Harper

Athens, GA





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Re: Railway Prototype Cyclopedia questions

Scott H. Haycock
 

Jared,

The SS cars and steel rebuilds are in RPC 17. The DS cars are in vol. 16, and their rebuilds are covered in vol. 24.

Scott Haycock


 


I an wondering if the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia had articles on the USRA box car rebuilds, and on the SS USRA box cars?


Jared Harper

Athens, GA




Re: GN dump cars in 1936

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Carl,

I will take a look at the code tomorrow.

Claus

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Richard…



Those cars are available as resin kits from Westerfield. The YV had 51 of them. There is a prototype and model photo on my website at



http://www.yosemitevalleyrr.com/modeling/available-yv-models



and just over halfway down.



Jack



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By GN ore cars I assume you are referring to the shorty steel ore cars like those once modeled by Varney, MDC, and Walthers (essentially single-bay hoppers).



Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR





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If they are hauling iron ore, my money is that they are GN ore cars. Otherwise the ore would have to be emptied from the ore car to another type of car not designed for heavy iron ore.



Gary Laakso

south of Mike Brock
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I forgot to put a subject on my original post.



Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR





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I have at hand a selection of "bulletins" from the Colorado & Southern from the 1930s through the 1950s. They generally are one or two sentences and refer to things like a new siding being in place, specific operating instructions, and the like. One I am interested in following up on is from November 11, 1936, and says, "Trains handling Great Northern dump cars loaded with iron ore must not exceed a speed of 35 miles per hour." My question is, what would a "Great Northern dump car" have been in 1936?



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Railway Prototype Cyclopedia questions

Jared Harper
 

I an wondering if the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia had articles on the USRA box car rebuilds, and on the SS USRA box cars?


Jared Harper

Athens, GA


Re: GN dump cars in 1936

Richard Townsend
 

Thanks, Gary.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

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Sent: Tue, May 9, 2017 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] GN dump cars in 1936

 
Yes, those are the cars and they were bottom dump cars for use on the ore docks. 
 
Gary Laakso
South of Mike Brock
 
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 7:53 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] GN dump cars in 1936
 
 
By GN ore cars I assume you are referring to the shorty steel ore cars like those once modeled by Varney, MDC, and Walthers (essentially single-bay hoppers).
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 9, 2017 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] GN dump cars in 1936
 
If they are hauling iron ore, my money is that they are GN ore cars.  Otherwise the ore would have to be emptied from the ore car to another type of car not designed for heavy  iron ore.
 
Gary Laakso
south of Mike Brock


On May 9, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
I forgot to put a subject on my original post.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 
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Sent: Tue, May 9, 2017 9:29 am
Subject: [STMFC]
 
I have at hand a selection of "bulletins" from the Colorado & Southern from the 1930s through the 1950s. They generally are one or two sentences and refer to things like a new siding being in place, specific operating instructions, and the like. One I am interested in following up on is from November 11, 1936, and says, "Trains handling Great Northern dump cars loaded with iron ore must not exceed a speed of 35 miles per hour." My question is, what would a "Great Northern dump car" have been in 1936?  
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 

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