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Schnabel Car article

Richard Townsend
 

A few years ago there was an article in, I believe, RMC about kitbashing a Schnabel car from a Kibri kit. I seem to have lost my copy and am wondering if anyone can provide me with a scan of the article.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 


Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?

Aley, Jeff A
 

A month ago, Randy posted the following:

 

Arkansas - (Products of Mines other than Petroleum 1950)

CA - 50,000 tons 

OR - 200,000 tons

WA - none listed

 

I presume that a significant part (majority?) of the production from AR was bauxite, a lot of which was shipped to OR to be turned into aluminum.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:38 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?

 

 

I didn't look at Arkansas or Montana in my other post. This book only tabulates totals of at least 10,000 tons, so smaller amounts won't be included. In the case of mining products the threshold is 50,000 tons.

 

Arkansas - (Products of Mines other than Petroleum 1950)

CA - 50,000 tons 

OR - 200,000 tons

WA - none listed

 

Montana (Products of Mines 1950, so it includes petroleum this time)

WA - 100,000 tons

CA - 350,000 tons

OR - none listed

 

Randy

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Railway Age July 03 1937

Fred Jansz
 

Hi all,
I'd like to model a WP 19001-19050 dd boxcar from a Sunshine 64.18 kit w. Hutchins steel ends.
Railway Age July 03 (?) 1937 cover has a picture of this seldomly pictured WP car. There's one blurry picture of part of the car in a book, plus I have a blurry jpg from the internet of this 1937 RA cover. So the Q is: maybe someone has this issue in his collection and maybe he would be willing to make a (sharp) scan, so I can see the details involved? Thanks for your kind cooperation.
best regards,
Fred Jansz



Re: Lehigh wrong way door boxcar paint color.

Ted Schnepf
 

Hi Scott,

Both the LV cars shown on my website:  http://railsunlimited.ribbonrail.com/Models/40boxcars.html, were built by Lee Turner.  He is a respected LV modeler.  I trust his choice of color for the models.  Here is Lee's instructions for painting the car as posted on the website.

The roofs on these cars were either never painted or the paint just would not stick to the galvanized roof panels. An existing car in Coplay, Pa shows the roof to be in sound condition with little rust after almost eighty years of exposure to the elements. The wood sides on these cars faded to almost a shade of pink with the steel doors and ends becoming slightly darker due to exposure.

The suggested finishing begins with painting the under frame a shade of brownish grey about a 50/50 mix of earth and dark brown color. Adding
more dark rusty brown to the same mixture paint the trucks and go back over the steel portions of the under frame. Spray a light coat on the cars ends and steel doors, this will show through a couple of light coats of the body color and make the steel portions of the car body appear a shade or two darker than the wood. The red oxide carbody color is sprayed on the sides and ends being careful not to get too much overspray on the underbody. During this stage of the finishing keep the car mounted on a pair of shop trucks, old trucks that are used while painting and can be swapped out for the painted and weathered trucks at the end. Mask the sides, ends and running boards and spray the roof with Testors Acrylic steel.


Also realize that wood prototypes faded to many different shades.

Ted


At 03:16 PM 5/18/2017, you wrote:
I have completed an F & C Lehigh wrong way boxcar and its ready for the paint shop.  The instructions call for boxcar red but the photos on the website the car appears a lot more red.  I looked at Rails Unlimited O scale version and it is pretty pretty red too.

I have Scalecoat 2 Boxcar red #2 it is more of a burgundy.  Red oxide is pretty bright but a little closer.

Anybody have any suggestions.

Thanks
Scott McDonald

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WESTERFIELD MODELS Newsletter, Vol 6, No 2a, May, 2017

dahminator68
 

Hello Steam Era Modeler:
 
We want to remind everyone that Westerfield Models is still having a NATIONAL TRAIN DAY SALE!  

Please see our Sale Options Below and check out our Sale Special.

This sale will be in effect until 11:59 pm Sunday, May 21, 2017 and is available for orders placed on our Website, 
Mail Order Form (a PDF file), or via Phone order on May 19 (303-658-9343), from 9am to 5pm, Pacific Time Zone.  We can also accept orders via email, payment made by Paypal Invoice.  
We accept all major credit cards.  Link to our Mail Order Form PDF:   http://westerfieldmodels.com/74822.html

Mailed in orders must be postmarked by Monday, May 22, 2017.   
Please indicate the sale item(s) chosen in the comment section.
 
Choose one of the following sale Options:  Please Note:  All Sales Options are for like items only.  For example, buy 2 Kits and get the second Kit at 25% off, or buy 5 Decals and get the fifth decal                                                                                  at 75% off or buy 6 Kits and get the 6th Kit FREE.  These sales are for the following types of Items Only:  Kits, Decals, Detail Parts & Info Disks.   
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Re: [1914to1940RRing] RE: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks, David!

This is a good model to use as a first resin kit assembly. The instructions are meh, but it's not a complex build. There were a decent quantity of prototypes and they lasted through WWII. It covers several bases for many modelers.


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX



On May 19, 2017 at 8:19 AM "'David Jobe, Sr.' tangerine_flyer@... [1914to1940RRing]" <1914to1940RRing@...> wrote:



Excellent work Eric!  And, a great write up to inspire others.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

From: resinfreightcars@... [mailto:resinfreightcars@...]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:37 AM
To: 1914to1940RRingr@...; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@...; STMFC YahooGroup
Subject: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

 




Some models take time to complete. I recently pushed an HO scale resin model across the finish line that was started nearly nine years ago. Check out the details on the DesignBuildOp blog! 

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/05/19/reading-composite-mill-gondola/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX




 



HO Factory built P2K black 8K gallon tank cars APCO

Andy Carlson
 



Hello-
I have a new six pack, still in factory shrink-wrap, of  Life-Like P2K 8000 gallon tank cars in the all-black APCO Petroleum scheme. I found several pictures by Binging, or you can ask for a scanned picture of one I found from Ebay.

APOX #8224; #8265; #8282; #8307; #8344; #8371.

These are factory built (assembled) HO tank cars. Offered for $130 for the six pack, plus shipping of $14 by USPS Priority mail.

I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I also accept PayPal. If interested, please contact me off-list @ 
-Andy Carlson, Ojai CA



Re: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

David Jobe, Sr.
 

Excellent work Eric!  And, a great write up to inspire others.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

From: resinfreightcars@... [mailto:resinfreightcars@...]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:37 AM
To: 1914to1940RRingr@...; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@...; STMFC YahooGroup
Subject: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

 




Some models take time to complete. I recently pushed an HO scale resin model across the finish line that was started nearly nine years ago. Check out the details on the DesignBuildOp blog! 

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/05/19/reading-composite-mill-gondola/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX





DT&I gon build and Speedwitch stuff

Ted Culotta
 

I finally managed to get one of the DT&I resinbash gons built. I have written it up in Part 1 and Part 2.

Also, I am having a sale on Decals and Pressed Steel Tank Cars through the end of the month. Details at the Speedwitch site.


Reading composite mll gondola

Eric Hansmann
 

Some models take time to complete. I recently pushed an HO scale resin model across the finish line that was started nearly nine years ago. Check out the details on the DesignBuildOp blog! 


http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/05/19/reading-composite-mill-gondola/




Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX


Re: Lehigh wrong way door boxcar paint color.

Edward
 

I built one in O scale, using an Intermountain 'Viking' roof, along with modified Intermountain doors and under frame. It was built so the doors could open, and there is a load modeling bagged flour in it. LV used many of these cars in the bagged flour trade out of Buffalo. Eight hundred 100 lb bags of flour generally used in neighborhood bakeries, made a load. The sides and ends are styrene. It also has full brake rigging and piping.

I used Floquil Tuscan Red for paint, along with a Champ decal set. Obviously, this was done a number of years ago, when the F&C kit for that LV car first came out. I saw the HO kit at  Central Hobby in Syracuse NY.
They put a photo of a prototype car in their newsletter and I worked from it.

Athough Floquil is no longer made, one might look at other paint lines and their colors to find one that seems to suit. Scale Coat offered more than one shade of boxcar red. And there are other reds to consider as well.

While I know many of us take great care in finding the right shades of paint, even hunting down the original specifications, if at all possible,  Yet colors do not always stay the way they were when first applied. Chalking and fading paint was more common back when these cars were in service.

I posted a photo of my O scale LV left-opening boxcar. It may show after the forum owner or moderator approves it.

Ed Bommer




Lehigh wrong way door boxcar paint color.

Scott
 

I have completed an F & C Lehigh wrong way boxcar and its ready for the paint shop. The instructions call for boxcar red but the photos on the website the car appears a lot more red. I looked at Rails Unlimited O scale version and it is pretty pretty red too.

I have Scalecoat 2 Boxcar red #2 it is more of a burgundy. Red oxide is pretty bright but a little closer.

Anybody have any suggestions.

Thanks
Scott McDonald


NE Proto Meet/NERPM in Connecticut will soon be here

Dave Owens
 

This year’s NERPM, scheduled for Friday and Saturday June 2-3, is
approaching quickly. If you haven’t preregistered please do so soon.
You can preregister on our website:  nerpm.org. You'll also save $5 by
preregistering. The last day to register online is Monday, May 29.

The meet is at the Holiday Inn Springfield South in Enfield, Conn.

Unfortunately, the hotel has sold out for the weekend. If you still
need lodging, please check your favorite online site. There are
several nearby hotels, including a Hampton Inn in Enfield and a
Comfort Inn in East Windsor, Conn. Both are only minutes from the meet
hotel.

We have a tentative clinic schedule on our website:
http://nerpm.org/clinics-2017.html

The meet features dozens of clinics, a large model display, great
vendors, a white elephant table and several manufacturers, including
Rapido, Atlas, ESU, ScaleTrains and True Line Trains. We also expect
some historical societies to attend. Please bring your models to show.
Remember, there is no judging. All models are welcome and encouraged,
even those that are not complete. The model room is truly the heart of
the meet.

We have a variety of great vendors attending, including Funaro &
Camerlengo, Ron’s Books, Bob’s Photo, the Hobby Gallery, Minute Man
Scale Models/Scalecoat, Crusader Rail Services, New England Rail
Service, Bethlehem Car Works, Greg Gordon, Speedwitch Media, Mask
Island Decals, Shortline Model Products, Tom’s Trains, Yarmouth Model
Works and others.

We’ll again have our white elephant room for meet attendees to sell
off surplus equipment. Space is limited so don’t empty your basement!

Each evening we’ll have our fundraising raffle with items donated by
the good people at Athearn, Atlas, ESU, Funaro & Camerlengo, Bob’s
Photo, Ron’s Books, Westerfield, ExactRail, Tangent, Rix Products,
Chooch Loads, Walthers, Intermountain, Kadee,  Microtrains, Moloco,
Bethlehem Car Works and others. We are truly grateful to these great
companies.

On Sunday after the meet, 10 layouts will be open to those who attend the meet.

We hope you can make it.

If you have any questions, please contact me at neprotomeet@....

Dave Owens

Meet coordinator


Re: PRR X31f "Turtle Roof" Box Cars

SUVCWORR@...
 

Total of 690 cars  (81200 - 81889)  rebuilt from other X31 cars in 1944   There were still 12 on the roster when PRR ceased to exist.

Rich Orr


-----Original Message-----
From: chiefbobbb@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Thu, May 18, 2017 1:33 pm
Subject: [STMFC] PRR X31f "Turtle Roof" Box Cars



I have several questions about these cars:

 

In what years were they built?

How many were built?

What were their last years in revenue service?

 

Thank you.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




PRR X31f "Turtle Roof" Box Cars

Bob Chaparro
 

I have several questions about these cars:

 

In what years were they built?

How many were built?

What were their last years in revenue service?

 

Thank you.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Tichy USRA steel rebuilds

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Ditto … what Steve said.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On May 17, 2017, at 8:01 PM, 'Steve Sandifer' steve.sandifer@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


I also would like to be on your parts list for the BX 28.

 

Steve. Sandifer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:48 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Tichy USRA steel rebuilds

 

  

Jared,

 

Ben is right out of the box it is a one kit wonder and not a bad one. There was a Sunshine mini-kit creating the Wabash car and when we do the PMcKY/P&LE car in line we will do the Wabash car as well. 

 

The Santa Fe Bx 28/31 was the subject of a Shake-N-Take kit conversion 2014.3 and we may rerun the parts one more time. 

 

There were several articles by the late Martin Loftin in RMC and there were articles he "produced" to promote his kits in Mainline Modeler, which sparked my fire for rebuilt cars. 

 

Greg Martin 

 

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean 

 

In a message dated 5/15/2017 3:20:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:

  

I am trying to figure out what prototypes the Tichy USRA steel rebuilds can be used to model.  I assume someone out there can help me.  Thanks.

 

Jared Harper

 




Re: Tichy USRA steel rebuilds

Steve SANDIFER
 

I also would like to be on your parts list for the BX 28.

 

Steve. Sandifer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:48 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Tichy USRA steel rebuilds

 

 

Jared,

 

Ben is right out of the box it is a one kit wonder and not a bad one. There was a Sunshine mini-kit creating the Wabash car and when we do the PMcKY/P&LE car in line we will do the Wabash car as well.

 

The Santa Fe Bx 28/31 was the subject of a Shake-N-Take kit conversion 2014.3 and we may rerun the parts one more time.

 

There were several articles by the late Martin Loftin in RMC and there were articles he "produced" to promote his kits in Mainline Modeler, which sparked my fire for rebuilt cars.

 

Greg Martin

 

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean

 

In a message dated 5/15/2017 3:20:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, STMFC@... writes:

 

I am trying to figure out what prototypes the Tichy USRA steel rebuilds can be used to model.  I assume someone out there can help me.  Thanks.

 

Jared Harper

 


Re: Spring TKM is now available

Aley, Jeff A
 

This issue contains “reprints” of several of Ben Hom’s definitive articles on the X29 box car.  For me, that was reason enough to download and save a copy.

 

I have not yet studied the series on Pennsy Gons that is also included.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:11 PM
To: the-keystone-modeler@...; STMFC@...; PRR-Modeling@...; PRRPro@...
Subject: [STMFC] Spring TKM is now available

 

 

Folks,

 

The Spring 2017 issue of the Keystone Modeler, #100, is now available.  This is our 100th issue!  See http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

 

Regards,

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith

webmaster, PRRT&HS​

 

 


Re: Tichy USRA steel rebuilds

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


An article that has not been mentioned in this thread is Ted Culotta's Essential Freight Car Offering in the July 2004 Railroad Moodel Craftsman issue.  In this article Ted breaks down the Tichy body inot a flat kit in order to add a Red
Caboose roof.  I have done this and the car sits in my pipeline awaiting final details.  At the same time I am doing a Westerfield and BLI model of the NYC USRA box cars.  These two havep;rogressed a little farther than the Tichy kit.

Bill Pardie

On May 16, 2017, at 8:55 AM, Armand Premo arm.p.prem@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Greg,Add me to the list also Please.Armand Premo

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Andrew Dahm dahminator68@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Hello.  Westerfield Models has available the 2-5-5-5 AT&SF 4 panel ends.  They are Westerfield prat number 3842, are $3.50 per pair and can be ordered through our website secure model store under Detail parts.

Thank you,
Andrew Dahm
Westerfieldmodels@...


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On Monday, May 15, 2017, 5:43 PM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 



Jared Harper asked:

"I did go to the archives and saw the P&LE reference.  But I guess I am wondering if these could be used to model the ATSF USRA rebuilds?  I have been trying to get hold of the RPC #24 that is supposed to cover rebuilds but cannot find one."

No.  Do not fall into Atlas' trap that all rebuilt boxcars are alike (which is how we got their crappy model). Compared to the prototype ATSF USRA DS rebuilds, the Tichy model is too short in height, has the wrong sides (model has 8 panel vs 10 panel of the prototype), ends (1/5/5/5 vs 2/5/5/5), and underframe (SS vs the fishbelly DS underframe).

With the Sunshine Models kits out of production, your best bet is to go all the way back to Martin Lofton's original approach in his RMC articles - start with a prewar AAR boxcar kit, and graft on new ends, underframe, and sidesills.  More recently, a Cocoa Beach Shake 'n Take project followed this approach.


Ben Hom   







Re: B&O Boxcar 275057

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <rwitt_2000@...> wrote :

On the B&O diagram it lists the builder for the M-26 as "Pullman Car & Mfg Corp" apparently the company's name in the 1920s.

Bob Wit
t====================

The Pullman Co. changed the name of their car building operation to Pullman Car & Manufacturing Corp. in 1924, after they had absorbed Haskell & Barker and become a "full service" car builder, building both passenger and freight cars.

The name changed again to Pullman-Standard Car Manufacturing Co. in 1929 with the merger with Standard Steel Car Co.

More detail here:


Dennis Storzek

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