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Re: Essential Freight Cars

Donald B. Valentine
 



---In STMFC@..., <npmoyer@...> wrote :

 

I too would like to see a reprint in book form, as I was not a subscriber to RMC during most of the years the series covered, however, Ted has stated repeatedly and emphatically that the series would not be offered in book form for whatever reason. Unless he has a change of heart, we’re beating a dead horse.

 

Nelson Moyer 



Some of us will have an opportunity to beat that dead horse on 2 & 3 June at the New England RPM Meet.

I will speak quietly with Ted about it as I am certainly one of those who feel all the articles would be more useful if presented all together in one book. There may be some copyright issues but even those could probably be addressed if Ted were to have White River Pub. actually do the printing and distribution of such a book.


Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: Essential Freight Cars

Ted Culotta
 

I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.

That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.

The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.

To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.

Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.

Cheers,
Ted

Re: Essential Freight Cars

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

Almost a decade has passed since the series ended, and some of the kits recommended to realize the essential freight cars are no longer available. While many of us would like to complete our collections of a series we think highly of, Ted would need to invest many hours in an update to make a mainstream, current reference book. My impression is that he’s moved to other projects more directed at freight car history than modeling.

Many installments are actually two articles: the main article about the particular car, and a sidebar about a particular construction detail which is applicable to many cars. The latter are not spelled out in the index I saw online a few months ago, and I hope to compile it and make it available over the summer.

Alex Schneider

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To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Essential Freight Cars







---In STMFC@... <mailto:STMFC@...> , <npmoyer@... <mailto:npmoyer@...> > wrote :

I too would like to see a reprint in book form, as I was not a subscriber to RMC during most of the years the series covered, however, Ted has stated repeatedly and emphatically that the series would not be offered in book form for whatever reason. Unless he has a change of heart, we’re beating a dead horse.

Nelson Moyer


Some of us will have an opportunity to beat that dead horse on 2 & 3 June at the New England RPM Meet.
I will speak quietly with Ted about it as I am certainly one of those who feel all the articles would be more useful if presented all together in one book. There may be some copyright issues but even those could probably be addressed if Ted were to have White River Pub. actually do the printing and distribution of such a book.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: Essential Freight Cars

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

Wish I had seen this before replying to an earlier post. I’m delighted it’s in the queue!

 

Alex Schneider

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:36 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars

 




I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.

 

That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.

 

The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.

 

To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.

 

Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.

 

Cheers,

Ted





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Re: Essential Freight Cars

Tom Madden
 

I know there are several indexes to Ted's Essential Freight Cars articles already in the STMFC Files area, but I've just uploaded another one. It includes sidebars and tables. If it turns out to be redundant I'll remove it.


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/STMFC/files/Culotta%20ESF%20Index.xls


Tom Madden

looking down views of a couple of cars

ed_mines
 

ART wood reefers with steel angle guards?

insulated tank cars like the one on p24 FOF, vol 10?


Ed Mines

Re: Essential Freight Cars

Brian Termunde
 

Thank you for your reply Ted.

While your articles subject matter were not really pertinent to me as I was and am an N Scale modeler. However, the information, tips and techniques certainly were. I read each and every one of those articles and still have those issues. That said, I too would welcome a book.

But I agree with you, things have changed a lot, and for the better in many regards. Although the current desire RTR freight cars seems to have diminished the availability of the stuff MODELERS need (and in this context, I am only referring to those who like to built kits or from scratch or a combination, and am not criticizing others).

To be pertinent, a good number of things would need to be updated, and I can see where that would be quite a project. Hopefully it is something that you can eventually do, it would find a ready audience, even this N Scaler! 

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah


Re: Essential Freight Cars
Posted by: "Ted Culotta" speedwitchmedia@... tcschc
Date: Wed May 24, 2017 6:35 am ((PDT))

I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.

That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.

The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.

To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.

Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.

Cheers,
Ted

Ted Culotta
Speedwitch Media
speedwitchmedia@... - www.speedwitchmedia.com
Blog: http://prototopics.blogspot.com

Help with C&EI FGE insulated box cars

David Forbes
 

I am researching the Chicago & Eastern Illinois involvement with Fruit Growers Express and am looking for more information on FGE itself. Does anyone know where I might find FGE records of C&EI lease agreements? Any help would be appreciated.

At this point I have what I believe to be a complete roster with around eight or so photos.

Question, from what I have read, FGE started around 1920 but the C&EI didn't begin to lease cars till 1952, why not earlier?

Again, any help appreciated,

David Forbes

Re: Essential Freight Cars

Jack Burgess
 

Ted…



Just a note that many of members of this list might have unbuilt kits for the cars that you covered in your series. So, even if those kits are no longer available, they probably reside unbuilt in many kit stashes.



Jack Burgess



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:36 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars








I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.



That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.



The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.



To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.



Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.



Cheers,

Ted




Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media

speedwitchmedia@... - www.speedwitchmedia.com

Blog: http://prototopics.blogspot.com










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InterMountain A.M.C. (Alternate AAR Standard) Hopper Undecorated Kit

rwitt_2000
 

I looked in the archives and couldn't find the answer.


Question: Does the InterMountain undecorated hopper, kit #42199, come with the multiple ends available for this model?


Bob Witt



Re: InterMountain A.M.C. (Alternate AAR Standard) Hopper Undecorated Kit

Rich C
 

Yes it does, Bob. Upon brief inspection it has peaked, C&O Dreadnaught peaked and regular flat ends.

Rich Christie


On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:35 PM, "rwitt_2000@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I looked in the archives and couldn't find the answer.

Question: Does the InterMountain undecorated hopper, kit #42199, come with the multiple ends available for this model?

Bob Witt




Re: InterMountain A.M.C. (Alternate AAR Standard) Hopper Undecorated Kit

Charles Tapper
 

Mine did.

Charles Tapper
OKC 


On May 24, 2017, at 9:35 PM, rwitt_2000@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I looked in the archives and couldn't find the answer.


Question: Does the InterMountain undecorated hopper, kit #42199, come with the multiple ends available for this model?


Bob Witt



Re: InterMountain A.M.C. (Alternate AAR Standard) Hopper Undecorated Kit

rwitt_2000
 

Thanks for your reply.

You list three ends included in the kit. By "peaked" do you mean the "arch" or "radial" ends or the angular heap shields. The Dreadnaught end is based on the arch end. They also list a notched arch end. By my count there are five different ends: flat, arch, notched arch, arch with Dreadnaught and angular heap shields. I am looking for the plain arch end

Bob Witt

Re: InterMountain A.M.C. (Alternate AAR Standard) Hopper Undecorated Kit

Scott H. Haycock
 

Yes,

It comes with 6 different ends.

Scott Haycock


 

I looked in the archives and couldn't find the answer.


Question: Does the InterMountain undecorated hopper, kit #42199, come with the multiple ends available for this model?


Bob Witt




Re: InterMountain A.M.C. (Alternate AAR Standard) Hopper Undecorated Kit

Scott H. Haycock
 

The plain arched end is included. The 6th end is the flat end with U channels instead of angles.

Scott Haycock


 

Thanks for your reply.


You list three ends included in the kit. By "peaked" do you mean the "arch" or "radial" ends or the angular heap shields. The Dreadnaught end is based on the arch end. They also list a notched arch end. By my count there are five different ends: flat, arch, notched arch, arch with Dreadnaught and angular heap shields. I am looking for the plain arch end

Bob Witt


Re: Essential Freight Cars

Pierre Oliver
 

And I believe this is where the phrase, "from my cold dead hands" comes into play. :-)

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 5/24/17 10:21 PM, 'Jack Burgess' jack@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Ted…

Just a note that many of members of this list might have unbuilt kits for the cars that you covered in your series. So, even if those kits are no longer available, they probably reside unbuilt in many kit stashes.

Jack Burgess

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:36 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars

I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.

That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.

The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.

To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.

Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.

Cheers,

Ted

Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media

speedwitchmedia@... - www.speedwitchmedia.com

Blog: http://prototopics.blogspot.com




Essential Freight Cars--What size stash?

gary laakso
 

Anyone have an estimate of the size of stashes of resin unbuilt kits?  Is 30% a good number or does it depend on the model?  I would guess that the Sunshine vinegar car kits have many more unbuilt than built.

 

Gary Laakso

south of Mike Brock

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:22 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars

 

 

Ted…

Just a note that many of members of this list might have unbuilt kits for the cars that you covered in your series. So, even if those kits are no longer available, they probably reside unbuilt in many kit stashes.

Jack Burgess

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:36 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars

I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.

That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.

The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.

To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.

Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.

Cheers,

Ted

Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media

speedwitchmedia@... - www.speedwitchmedia.com

Blog: http://prototopics.blogspot.com

Re: Essential Freight Cars--What size stash?

Benjamin Hom
 

Gary Laakso wrote:
 "Anyone have an estimate of the size of stashes of resin unbuilt kits?  Is 30% a good number or does it depend on the model?  I would guess that the Sunshine vinegar car kits have many more unbuilt than built."

Who cares?  More wasted bandwidth and less time spent building.


Ben Hom

Re: Essential Freight Cars--What size stash?

Pierre Oliver
 

It's been suggested that easily 70% of Sunshine kits and likely other resin kits remain unbuilt

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 5/25/17 8:58 AM, 'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Anyone have an estimate of the size of stashes of resin unbuilt kits?  Is 30% a good number or does it depend on the model?  I would guess that the Sunshine vinegar car kits have many more unbuilt than built.

 

Gary Laakso

south of Mike Brock

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:22 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars

 

 

Ted…

Just a note that many of members of this list might have unbuilt kits for the cars that you covered in your series. So, even if those kits are no longer available, they probably reside unbuilt in many kit stashes.

Jack Burgess

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:36 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Essential Freight Cars

I guess it's time that I reply to this. First, I do not ever recall stating that I would not entertain the idea of consolidating all of this into a book. It's possible I did, but I certainly don't remember it. However, I have read numerous times about things I have said and done that were not the case so it's possible that I stated something that was easily interpreted differently than I intended.

That said, I have discussed the idea of doing a book, although books is more realistic. My vision is 3-4 perfect bound (paperback) volumes.

The fly in the ointment in all of this is that a lot has changed since these articles were published. Many of the kits are no longer available, many have been superseded by one or more styrene (or resin) offerings, and several are ones where I (or others) are actively pursuing replacement kit offerings. I also have several subjects that were never covered that would need to be completed and incorporated into a latter part of the compendium. It's not that I don't see a value in this; it's more that it would be an undertaking well above and beyond just putting them together into book form.

To summarize, it's a project I heartily embrace. I just need to insert it into the queue.

Thanks for all of the positive input, feedback, and support. It is nice to read it all.

Cheers,

Ted

Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media

speedwitchmedia@... - www.speedwitchmedia.com

Blog: http://prototopics.blogspot.com

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