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Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media (Liquid Gravity)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Part of an on-line review stated, "I am not sure what metal is used for the tiny little "BBs", but it is not magnetic and after a few measurements I came up with a density of about 4.15 gr/cm3 (lead has a density of 11.3 gr/cm3 for comparison)."


Disappointing that this product provides less weight than an equal volume of lead.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Rattle Can Matte & Flat Finishes

Martin Young
 

I have been using rattle cans of Dullcoat for as long as I remember. It does give a flat finish but not always a uniform finish. I am not building contest quality models , just for me to run at home and on the club. I have been buying and experimenting with many rattle cans of clear flat finish with varying success.

My latest experiments were with Rust-Oleum Clear Dead Flat, Humbrol Acrylic Matte and Tamiya Flat Clear. Many people have said that the Rust-Oleum product is the best you can get. It was better than Dullcoat but does have a nuisance value that makes it hard to use, you must have VERY good ventilation and probably better outside and you stand upwind from it. Next came Humbrol. It gave an even better finish than Rust-Oleum and being acrylic I detected no odor at all. Last was Tamiya and that was a pleasant surprise. I sprayed a car that had a semi-gloss finish with high-gloss lettering. That car ended up dead flat, the entire car with an even coating. It does have an odor but I found it tolerable.

For me, my go to will be Tamiya first, Humbrol second. Both paints leave the car dry enough to pick up within a minute.

Marty
San Diego, CA

---- "johnsykesiii@yahoo.com [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Sorry, I thought we were talking PAINTS not clear coats. I only use Dullcoat for final sealing. Will use Rattle Cans but prefer airbrush, since I prefer to dilute it down to nearly 50:50 to get it to dry very fast. Also, I use a "not-in-California" lacquer thinner that is over 300 g/L VOCs. Dries in seconds but will knock out an elephant.

-- John


Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media

Bruce Smith
 

​Clearly I cared more about what Cody was using to weight the car than the car ;)


Regards

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... on behalf of Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 8:46 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] S330 or S280 shot blasting media
 


Bruce, unless your MR is different than mine, the article is about a Varney gondola.
Tony Thompson 


On Jun 5, 2017, at 2:19 PM, 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Folks,


In thinking about weighting steam era freight cars, I came across “Liquid Gravity” in a story by Cody Grivno in this month’s Model Railroader, where he weights an old Ulrich Gondola.  The stuff looks like tiny steel shot… (I say steel because it is “non-toxic” so it isn’t lead)

It turns out that it sells for around $13 for 240 grams.

S330 or S280 steel shot blasting media sells for $36 for a 50# bag of S330 or $22 for a 25# bag of S280.  Shipping adds significantly to the bill, due to the weight, of course… but sheesh, that’s several lifetime supplies of beetle metal balls…

I think Tichy used something like this for the weights in their derrick kit.

This seems like a no-brainer - is anyone using this stuff?  Either as weight or to media blast?

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."






Re: Kits are now for sale

Bill Welch
 

I have a photo of 40709 w/a reweigh date of January 1967 in very good condition w/what looks like fairly fresh paint and stenciling and a very wide left side door. It is stenciled "AB Brake." Also CP 40498 in 1969 with those bar code thingys. Cars operated in USA will need different trucks.

Bill welch


Southeeastern Hopper Questions

Dave Nelson
 

I know very little about hoppers in general and less about railroads in the southeast but  that said I’m looking at building a simulator route (for Open Rails) centered on the Southern railway in Asheville NC, .ca 1950 plus or minus a few years.  Knoxville is to the west, Asheville in the center and the Southern’s S-line that runs east to Spencer Yard at Salisbury. The S-Line is crossed (and interchanged with) the Clinchfield.  The focus is the Southern  mainline between those points so other than handling connecting mains as “staging” all other routes are not in scope..

AFAIK the flow of coal would be:
Anything going east from Knoxville.

Any southeastern movement off the Southern’s Bristol line, just east of Knoxville.

Anything handed off by the Clinchfield where it crosses the S-Line.

 

 

What I’m trying to figure out is the nature of the hopper fleets common to this area.   I pulled up an old relational data base – the same one I used to verify the Nelson-Gilbert distribution of boxcars, which is largely based on S-Line wheel reports and instead of searching for boxcars used hoppers instead.  The sample size is 523 cars.

 

The distribution of hopper ownership as recorded in these wheel reports (ca 46-52) was:

SOU 41%

L&N 20%

C&O 11%

INT 10%

CRR  9%

DLW 1%

 

The remaining 5% are from all over, including unexpected initials like MILW, MP, BM, MSL, CNW, and even the Alton.

 

 

I have a good start on understanding the 50 ton twin roster around 1950, plus or minus a couple:

 

Pullman PS-3
PS-3 CRR 52000-52499, built 3-53, 500 cars

PS-3 L&N 34000-35999, built 4-49, 2000 cars

PS-3 L&N 82200-85199, built 4-52, 3000 cars

 

USRA allocated cars

USRA CRR 43750-45499

USRA L&N 85650-87999

 

War Emergency

WE ACL 6300-6421, built  nn-43, 122 cars, reblt 52-53

WE ACL 7500-7999, built  nn-43, 500 cars, reblt 50-53

WE ACL 82000-82549, built  5-43, 550 cars, reblt 9-51

WE ACL 82550-82699, built  6-43, 150 cars, reblt 9-51

WE CCR 48000-48499, built 01-44, 500 cars

WE L&N 31000-31999, built 10-43, 1000 cars

WE L&N 71150-71391, built 10-43, 242 cars

WE SOU 104500-105949, built 9-43, 1450 cars, reblt 52-53

 

AAR 50 ton twins

AAR Std Twin L&N many, many series, > 16,000 cars

AAR Std Twin SOU 106500-107499, built 10-48, 1000 cars

AAR Std Twin SOU 112500-113249, built 01-41M 750 cars

AAR Std Twin SOU 285500-285999, built 11-37, 500 cars

AAR Std Twin SOU 320100-320699, built nn-37, 600 cars

 

AMC 50 ton twins

AMC Std Twin C&O many, many series, thousands of cars

AMC Std Twin CRR 47000-47599, built 7-37, 500 cars

AMC Std Twin CRR 49000-49999, built 4-46, 1000 cars

AMC Std Twin CRR 50000-50999, built 5-46, 1000 cars

AMC Std Twin CRR 51000-51999, built 3-49, 1000 cars

 

------- Begin Questions ---------

I’m assuming the AMC Std was often called the AAR Alternate.  Is that correct?

 

By virtue of being able to join the wheel report to my ORER database I am able to see that almost all hoppers that passed on the S-route were 50 ton twins… but not all;  The occasional 100 ton car shows up, something from each of the “high percentage” roads I’ve listed.  I know nothing of 100 ton hoppers.  Any design standards I can follow for these, given the road names I’ve cited?

 

I know nothing of the Interstate… not even which states it was inter to.  Any help?

 

 

 

Any comments, help, etc., are  most welcome.

 

Dave Nelson


Re: Kits are now for sale

Corey Fischer
 

Here here Dave! 

 I feel that the original configuration would benefit pre depression and transition era modelers alike. I would love to own this kit, it looks gorgeous!

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak






Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media

Tony Thompson
 

Bruce, unless your MR is different than mine, the article is about a Varney gondola.
Tony Thompson 


On Jun 5, 2017, at 2:19 PM, 'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Folks,


In thinking about weighting steam era freight cars, I came across “Liquid Gravity” in a story by Cody Grivno in this month’s Model Railroader, where he weights an old Ulrich Gondola.  The stuff looks like tiny steel shot… (I say steel because it is “non-toxic” so it isn’t lead)

It turns out that it sells for around $13 for 240 grams.

S330 or S280 steel shot blasting media sells for $36 for a 50# bag of S330 or $22 for a 25# bag of S280.  Shipping adds significantly to the bill, due to the weight, of course… but sheesh, that’s several lifetime supplies of beetle metal balls…

I think Tichy used something like this for the weights in their derrick kit.

This seems like a no-brainer - is anyone using this stuff?  Either as weight or to media blast?

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media

Bruce Smith
 

​Don,


Maybe I'm not into one-size fits all solutions ;)  


Lead sheet is great, as are tire weights, for specific applications.  In the case I have in mind, F&C GR gons and FM flats, about the only space available for weight is between the center sills and between the side and center sills.  While lead sheet might work for the latter, F&C nicely cast all the stringers in place and so a "pourable" solution that would get down into those spaces would be superior to trying to get lead sheet into those spaces... just what Cody used it for.


Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... on behalf of riverman_vt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 7:47 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media
 


Guess it depends on what one is into. I shoot a lot and could pick up
non-lead shot, which some of us use for reloading, but it is easier to
pick up a little lead sheet from a roofing contractor or plumbing 
supply house. I was recently given enough lead sheet to last me
a couple of lifetimes but can always run any extra through my Lyman 
furnace and cast bullets with it. To each their own!

Cordially, Don Valentine



Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media

riverman_vt@...
 

Guess it depends on what one is into. I shoot a lot and could pick up
non-lead shot, which some of us use for reloading, but it is easier to
pick up a little lead sheet from a roofing contractor or plumbing 
supply house. I was recently given enough lead sheet to last me
a couple of lifetimes but can always run any extra through my Lyman 
furnace and cast bullets with it. To each their own!

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Derby Foods Reefer (URTX 77063)

Tony Thompson
 

Dennis Storzek wrote:

 

I would suspect that SRECo. would make you anything you wanted... size wise, as I'm sure they retained their tooling from older products. I would imagine the real determining factor, Dreadnaught vs. Improved Dreadnaught ends, was the potential for future sales. My guess, if the end was a size that hadn't been redesigned as an "improved" end, and it didn't look like they would sell a lot of them, they just ran the older dies.


     Or you could apparently request them. When PFE started with mechanical reefers, they used the "original" type ends at the A end, since the barrier between the interior and the mechanical compartment had to resist internal load shifting, not the external end. The PFE order summaries say that these ends were purchased new from SRE, in the early 1950s.

Tony Thompson




Santa Fe Caswell gondola question

Jared Harper
 

I just recently acquired an Intermountain Ga-2 (That's what it is lettered.) that has the operating levers on the end removed and a wood floor with the boards running the length of the car. (This doesn't seem right to me.)  On page 108 of Santa Fe Open Top Cars by Richard Hendrickson it says, "In later years many cars which had damaged drop door mechanisms were converted to solid floors and renumbered.," with no mention of wood floors.  On page 110 there is a picture of Ga-2 72362 that was converted to a solid bottom car.  An article in the December 2006 Railmodel Journal also by Richard Hendrickson says, "Beginning in the 1930s, some early Caswell gons were converted to solid bottom gondolas when their drop-door mechanisms required extensive repairs.  This was accomplished by removing the Caswell creeping shaft mechanisms and fitting T-section crossmembers under each pair of drop doors to hold them permanently closed."  This sounds like solid metal floors to me. Neither source mentions anything about wood floors.  Based on this I assume the Intermountain Ga-2 with a wood floor of boards running the length of the car is a none such.

What's the opinion of the group?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media

Tim O'Connor
 


They always gouge on shipping. Flat Rate Priority Mail weight limit is
something like 75 lbs!! I remember when I ordered a ton of stuff from
AZ Rock & Minerals years ago... came in one box. The postman probably
was not happy that day :-)

Tim O'



S330 or S280 steel shot blasting media sells for $36 for a 50# bag of S330 or $22 for a 25# bag of S280.  Shipping adds significantly to the bill, due to the weight, of course� but sheeshh, that’s several lifetime supplies of beetle metal balls�

I think Tichy used something like this for the weights in their derrick kit.

This seems like a no-brainer - is anyone using this stuff?  Either as weight or to media blast?

Bruce F. Smith           


Re: Derby Foods Reefer (URTX 77063)

ROGER HINMAN
 


The cars I have seen closeup have early UMP dreadnoughts with the square corners. You're correct that SRE probably got all the early dies when they bought out UMP. I've speculated General American  may have picked the ends  up from one of the many Chicago area scrappers.



-----Original Message-----
From: destorzek@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Mon, Jun 5, 2017 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Derby Foods Reefer (URTX 77063)

 



---In STMFC@..., wrote :


1955, possible rolling into the following year.  My favorite unanswered question is where they found the 1930's vintage steel ends to put on these cars.


Roger Hinman
=================

I would suspect that SRECo. would make you anything you wanted... size wise, as I'm sure they retained their tooling from older products. I would imagine the real determining factor, Dreadnaught vs. Improved Dreadnaught ends, was the potential for future sales. My guess, if the end was a size that hadn't been redesigned as an "improved" end, and it didn't look like they would sell a lot of them, they just ran the older dies.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Kits are now for sale

Dave Parker
 

I have communicated with Pierre about this off list, but I just want to amplify what Corey has said.  As far as I know, there were 600 of these cars constructed originally in 1923, and they road the rails in that configuration (10 ft wide doors) for more than a decade.  Even then, there are 180 "original" cars in my 1945 ORER (as least in terms of door width).  If there are already three door configurations available, it seems a shame not to offer the original, as depicted in the prototype photo on the YMW site.  I almost ordered the kit based on that photo, but am glad that I inquired about the details before I did.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA 



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:05 PM, "Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak






Re: Derby Foods Reefer (URTX 77063)

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <rhinman11@...> wrote :


1955, possible rolling into the following year.  My favorite unanswered question is where they found the 1930's vintage steel ends to put on these cars.


Roger Hinman
=================

I would suspect that SRECo. would make you anything you wanted... size wise, as I'm sure they retained their tooling from older products. I would imagine the real determining factor, Dreadnaught vs. Improved Dreadnaught ends, was the potential for future sales. My guess, if the end was a size that hadn't been redesigned as an "improved" end, and it didn't look like they would sell a lot of them, they just ran the older dies.

Dennis Storzek


Re: S330 or S280 shot blasting media

Dave Parker
 

Bruce:

Looks like steel shot, but there is this video on U-tube describing use in "wagons" (in a charming British accent):



Remember, as long as the cavity is big enough, there isn't any advantage to little tiny balls of steel.  Hexagonal closest pack orientation yields 74% balls and 26% glue/air, regardless of the diameter of the spheres.

That price would be more attractive if the product was tungsten, but I'm pretty sure if it was, they would say so.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA



On Monday, June 5, 2017 2:19 PM, "'Bruce F. Smith' smithbf@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Folks,

In thinking about weighting steam era freight cars, I came across “Liquid Gravity” in a story by Cody Grivno in this month’s Model Railroader, where he weights an old Ulrich Gondola.  The stuff looks like tiny steel shot… (I say steel because it is “non-toxic” so it isn’t lead)

It turns out that it sells for around $13 for 240 grams.

S330 or S280 steel shot blasting media sells for $36 for a 50# bag of S330 or $22 for a 25# bag of S280.  Shipping adds significantly to the bill, due to the weight, of course… but sheesh, that’s several lifetime supplies of beetle metal balls…

I think Tichy used something like this for the weights in their derrick kit.

This seems like a no-brainer - is anyone using this stuff?  Either as weight or to media blast?

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith            
Auburn, AL
"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."






Re: Derby Foods Reefer (URTX 77063)

ROGER HINMAN
 


1955, possible rolling into the following year.  My favorite unanswered question is where they found the 1930's vintage steel ends to put on these cars.


Roger Hinman

-----Original Message-----
From: rwitt_2000@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Mon, Jun 5, 2017 12:37 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Derby Foods Reefer (URTX 77063)

 
Bob,

The URTX reefer is a nice bonus to Monon caboose image.

Can someone refresh my memory and give a time-line for when URT began the rebuilting program substituting steel ends for the original wood sheathed ones.

Bob Witt


S330 or S280 shot blasting media

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

In thinking about weighting steam era freight cars, I came across “Liquid Gravity” in a story by Cody Grivno in this month’s Model Railroader, where he weights an old Ulrich Gondola.  The stuff looks like tiny steel shot… (I say steel because it is “non-toxic” so it isn’t lead)

It turns out that it sells for around $13 for 240 grams.

S330 or S280 steel shot blasting media sells for $36 for a 50# bag of S330 or $22 for a 25# bag of S280.  Shipping adds significantly to the bill, due to the weight, of course… but sheesh, that’s several lifetime supplies of beetle metal balls…

I think Tichy used something like this for the weights in their derrick kit.

This seems like a no-brainer - is anyone using this stuff?  Either as weight or to media blast?

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




Re: Kits are now for sale

Corey Fischer
 

Thanks Pierre!! I know a few people that would be interested! 

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Let me review options with the pattern creator  

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak





Re: Kits are now for sale

Pierre Oliver
 

Let me review options with the pattern creator

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 5:03 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
I'd love to have some for my 1929 focus.

On Jun 5, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

NOt at this time, but I hardly ever say never

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 4:53 PM, Corey Fischer hexomega2319@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Pierre,

 Any chance of an original configuration? Us pre depression guys would love to be able to use this car.

Corey

On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Promise me sales of at least 50 units and I'll do whatever you like!

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 2017-06-05 3:54 PM, rule292@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre,

Any chance of ever doing your masters/cars in O scale?

Big shortage of wood sheathed cars in "The King of Scales"  (insert humor emoticon after that old fifties tag line).

Rob Mondichak




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