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Re: June op session on the Alma branch cancelled; now taking operators for the July session

Jared Harper
 

Bruce,

What day would suit you?  Only Saturday, July 15th and the 22nd are unavailable. Any of the other Saturdays or Sundays are available.

Jared

CPR autobox car casting error

Pierre Oliver
 

PLease see this blog post;

http://elgincarshops.blogspot.ca/2017/06/if-you-bought-cpr-autobox-kit-from-me.html

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

Re: 6 dome insulated tank car with tiny dome valves

Tony Thompson
 

gary laakso wrote:

 
These are the smallest tank dome valves that I have seen:

   They aren't valves, they are vents, with frangible disks.They were permitted with non-regulated commodities such as wine, vegetable oil, and others. See my blog post: 


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Re: GATX 68508

Jack Mullen
 

That would indeed be striking, and capturing the rather mangy weathering of the gray tank would be challenging and impressive if done well.

Jack Mullen

YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Jack Burgess
 

Last month, a two-person crew from TSG Media videoed my layout in High-def over several days. The video follows a freight train (required freight car stuff) from Merced to El Portal. It has now been uploaded to YouTube at

 

https://youtu.be/EHGkZHLqALY

 

Jack Burgess

Re: 6 dome insulated tank car with tiny dome valves

Tom Madden
 

Owl Mountain Models offers them in HO as 2" Frangible Tank Car Vents in both top mount and side mount versions.

http://www.owlmtmodels.com/detail_parts/detail_parts.html


Tom Madden

Re: 6 dome insulated tank car with tiny dome valves

Jeff Coleman
 

Those look like Midland safety vents rather than safety valves to me.
Jeff Coleman


On Jun 10, 2017 11:29 AM, "'gary laakso' vasa0vasa@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

These are the smallest tank dome valves that I have seen:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1947-Oct-Salt-Lake-City-and/i-MnrhF9h/A 

 

Gary Laakso

south of Mike Brock

6 dome insulated tank car with tiny dome valves

gary laakso
 

These are the smallest tank dome valves that I have seen:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1947-Oct-Salt-Lake-City-and/i-MnrhF9h/A 

 

Gary Laakso

south of Mike Brock

Re: Help on tank colors - GATX 68508

Bill Welch
 

FYI needed for this marriage is one Undec Tangent Gen. Amer. Acid Tank Car kit 13000-01 and one Red Caboose 8K welded tank.

Bill Welch

Re: GATX 68508

Ted Culotta
 

Richard modestly failed to mention that he emailed me that there is a fair amount of Commercial Solvents corporate ephemera at the Vigo County Public Library in Terre Haute. If I can work it out, I plan a pit stop on the drive to Collinsville. Black and orange on a gray tank, it would be quite striking. Thanks for everyone's help.

Cheers,
Ted

Re: Orphan FOFC photo - UOCX 8018

Richard Townsend
 

Pure speculation on my part, but if it really is orange and black, if the other markings also are orange and black, that would make for a spectacular scheme on a gray tank, which is what it looks like to me. I hope a definitive answer is found.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

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From: Dave Parker spottab@... [STMFC]
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Sent: Fri, Jun 9, 2017 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Orphan FOFC photo - UOCX 8018

 
Ted:

An excellent guess for the oval herald would be orange and black:




Best,

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:53 AM, "Ted Culotta speedwitchmedia@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
I posted a photo to my blog that turned up mixed in with the head end, passenger, and locomotive stuff from the FOFC photos (Urac Collection). You can see it at my blog (link below).

Enjoy.

Cheers,
Ted



Re: June op session on the Alma branch cancelled; now taking operators for the July session

Bruce Smith
 

Hi Jared,

I might be up for that depending on the day,

Regards
Bruce

On Jun 9, 2017, at 12:57 PM, Jared Harper harperandbrown@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



Due to several factors I am cancelling the June op session on Santa Fe's Alma branch.  I will be having a session in July so if you are interested please contact me.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606
706-543-8821 



Re: Orphan FOFC photo - UOCX 8018

Dave Parker
 

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:53 AM, "Ted Culotta speedwitchmedia@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I posted a photo to my blog that turned up mixed in with the head end, passenger, and locomotive stuff from the FOFC photos (Urac Collection). You can see it at my blog (link below).

Enjoy.

Cheers,
Ted



June op session on the Alma branch cancelled; now taking operators for the July session

Jared Harper
 

Due to several factors I am cancelling the June op session on Santa Fe's Alma branch.  I will be having a session in July so if you are interested please contact me.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606
706-543-8821 

HO OMI Pennsy brass X28 1+1/2 door Auto box car

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have a project PRR X28 box car which I have lost interest. I purchased this Overland Models #3018, MS Models built, X28 without an underframe/floor. My intentions were to remove the left-side corrugated 4' Youngstown door, fill in the door opening with a riveted panel. and have a period correct X28A rebuild.

This comes with the original box and foam in great condition, but the underframe and floor is missing and I suggest a modified Red Caboose X29 frame. The brass body is in no tarnish mint condition, and brake staff and running board, along with ladders and grabs are present. As the 1st 100 cars came with arch bar trucks, I will include a pair of Tahoe Model Works 5'6" Arch Bar trucks with semi-scale code 88 wheel sets. Info for this car can be found in Vol. 24 of RPC.

The 1st 1000 (of a total of 5000 X28's built) were equipped with Youngstown corrugated steel doors, as is this model. I will toss in 4 pairs of Red Caboose X28 3-panel doors for kitbashing fodder if the buyer is inclined to model one of the 2000 so equipped. These cars were all gone by 1935, having been rebuilt into X28a single door box cars.

Offered for $85, shipping included to US addresses. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I accept PayPal. Contact me off-list @ for details.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Help on tank colors - GATX 68508

Ted Culotta
 

I posted a photo to my blog (link below) of GATX 68508 lettered for Commercial Solvents Corp. Can anyone shed light on the colors of the tank and lettering, including emblems, etc.? Thank you.

Cheers,
Ted

Re: Photo wanted

Donald B. Valentine
 




---In STMFC@..., <fgexbill@...> wrote :

Why did he have so much trouble holding a job?

Bill Welch

Some will disagree but I would suggest that it was largely because he learned his
railroading on the Standard Scrapyard of the World, otherwise known as the Pennsy.
He damn near put the D&H into bankruptcy before Nuelle and then White brought it 
back. Loree's idea of a good locomotive was a 2-8-0 that would haul as much as a 
superpower Lima 2-8-4 but at only half the speed. Comparing him to John Barringer
IMHO is little more than an insult to Barringer. He might have been a good railroad
executive prior to 1900 but certainly not after 1910.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: when did nyc drop periods on boxcars?

Dave Parker
 

I have no NYC expertise but, since I have MOL the same question, I'm going to toss out what my modest collection of NYCL photos suggests.  Then, hopefully the NYC gurus can set me straight.

1.  Through the 1920s,  I see N.Y.C. (with periods), and both the reporting mark and road number seem to be 9" high.  No lines.  This scheme persists on some older cars until 1935 at least, probably longer.

2.  Starting with new cars in about 1929 (P&LE) or 1930 (NYC), the periods disappear, and the road number is reduced to 7-inch lettering.  This scheme starts to appear on repainted cars shortly thereafter.  Still no lines.

3.  The earliest evidence I have seen of lines above and below this lettering is a photo with a reweigh date of 2-36.

If anybody can refine (or correct) this further, I will greatly appreciate the information.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA




On Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:58 AM, "bill_stanton60@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
when did nyc drop periods but still had lines above and below "nyc" on boxcars?


Durkees

Charles Peck
 

Quote from another thread:


" have often wondered about El Dorado Oils as, by the early 50's they were
owned by Glidden - as was Durkee (Fine) Foods. Durkee also had a plant in
Berkeley and one of their warehouses was for holding Copra, which I'm led to
understand might have been used for making margarine. At some earlier date
Eldorado Oils were part of the process of making Snowflake detergent.

Was El Dorado Oils still part of the feedstock to some soap plant, feedstock
to Durkee's margarine process, or supplying natural oils to Glidden? Some
or all of the above. Hold on to your hats guys. the Internet DOES NOT have
the answer! What is the world coming to???

Dave Nelson"


I don't know anything about El Dorado Oils but Durkees Famous Foods had

some tank cars for edible oils. Durkees and Glidden were big in soy oils at one time.

I would love to see a photo of a DFFX tank car with the Durkee name on it.

Chuck Peck


Re: Bowser Colgate Palmolive covered hopper

Dave Nelson
 

I have often wondered about El Dorado Oils as, by the early 50's they were
owned by Glidden - as was Durkee (Fine) Foods. Durkee also had a plant in
Berkeley and one of their warehouses was for holding Copra, which I'm led to
understand might have been used for making margarine. At some earlier date
Eldorado Oils were part of the process of making Snowflake detergent.



Was El Dorado Oils still part of the feedstock to some soap plant, feedstock
to Durkee's margarine process, or supplying natural oils to Glidden? Some
or all of the above. Hold on to your hats guys. the Internet DOES NOT have
the answer! What is the world coming to???



Dave Nelson



p.s. it is sad to note that none of the manufacturing plants in west
Oakland, Emeryville, Berkeley, and Richmond, save Standard Oil, remain in
operation. A good 10-15 miles of steam era, rail served plant after plant.
almost all torn down and hardly a manufacturing job anywhere to be seen.

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To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Bowser Colgate Palmolive covered hopper



One contributor to the vegetable oils there was El Dorado in Berkeley,
which employed my great-uncle Alfred Aiken Their primary product was
coconut oil from South Seas copra, but they also made palm oil and at least
two other "natural" oils. There happens to be a Wilbur Whittaker photo of
one of their leased tank cars, and I made custom decals to approximately
duplicate it.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com

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