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Re: PRR X43B Power Hand Brake Question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nelson;

B-end photos are indeed rare:

Series 85400-86399 (1000 cars), car 86243 had a Miner brake
Segregated service cars in series 600000-601999 (2000 cars), car 600635 had a Universal with dished pressed-steel wheel

7-panel Superior doors,, rectangular grid r/b, nice Pressed Steel Car Co logo to left of door, plus this is one class that DID have a hyphen between X and 43B (as in X-43B; B is NOT smaller than other letters/numbers), as painted.


Elden Gatwood (working on the book as we speak)

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I bought a Branchline PRR X43B kit at Collinsville for $6, and I need to know what power hand brake it would have for a 1951 build date. The photos I've found don't show the B end.



Nelson Moyer
New Haven Steel Boxcars and other Northeastern Fleets Excluding PRR, NYC, B&O

Bill Welch
 

My photo shopping at C'ville included two color shots of NYNH&H steel boxcars, a 1937 in black /w orange doors and a post-war 10-ft high car w/Improved Dreadnaught ends in orange paint, both with the large NH. My modeling plan currently is to do a 1937 IMWX model with the original Script scheme using Speedwitch decals and an InterMountain 1937 kit with GN Improved Dreadnaught ends with Archer Rivets in the orange scheme using "Smoke Box" decals.


Although I have a pretty good overall grasp of northeastern boxcars, it would be fun to know more details about the various fleets—excluding PRR, B&O, and NYC that I already have a good grasp of. I am wondering if perhaps the various historical society magazines may over the years have included in-depth articles on their respective 40-foot boxcar fleets, specifically Erie, DL&W, NYNH&H, CNJ, D&H, LNE, Reading and LV. Probably left someone off here. Hoping there are individuals in this group that are part of these Historical Societies that may be able to give me a reference. I have the several Tables of steel boxcars from Ed Hawkins but articles have a way of enlivening the imagination.


It would also be great to see presentations at various RPMs about these companies freight car fleets.


Bill Welch

 
Re: Decal source

riverman_vt@...
 




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Tommy Gilberts Hobby Shop in Gettysburg, PA

Rick Jesionowski


I suspect one would have better luck at Main Line Hobbies, some 20-25 minutes further
west at Blue Ride Summit, PA, which is now about the best stocked hobby shop east
of the Appalachians.

 Cordially, Don Valentine
Re: [Proto-Layouts] Decal source

Dave Owens
 

AA Hobbies, Warwick, RI
Palmer Hobbies, Palmer, Mass. 
Both have a deep stock. 
Dave Owen
West Hartford, Conn. 

On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:02 AM, Jared Harper harperandbrown@... [Proto-Layouts] <Proto-Layouts@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a hobby shop that might carry a deep selection of Microscale decals and who might have some decal sets that Microscale says are "out of stock?"

Jared Harper
Athens, GA
PRR X43B Power Hand Brake Question

Nelson Moyer
 

I bought a Branchline PRR X43B kit at Collinsville for $6, and I need to know what power hand brake it would have for a 1951 build date. The photos I’ve found don’t show the B end.

 

Nelson Moyer
Re: Interesting Freight Car

ajb1102@...
 

What I see as curious in this photo is the tank car in the background.
I can't get it too clear.
A number of straps around it. 
Maybe just maybe, holding wood planking in place for insulation.
But, I admit could be just scan lines that I think I am seeing.
Andy
Re: The new Tangent tank car

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

But Bill,

I'm still waiting for an HO 10K AC&F high-walkway tank. The low-walkway version would be nice too. The 10K was extremely common, and could still be found into the early 1950s, or longer in MW service (the WP was one of the last owners, and one is preserved at the Western Railway Museum). F&C has done both high and low 8K versions, but except for some brass models from long ago, a 10K kit or RTR is still lacking.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 6/29/17 11:16 AM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Back in about the mid-1990's Martin Lofton built into the Naperville RPM event a panel discussion on a Saturday night focused on kit possibilities—sort of "what do people want?" discussion. I do not remember any of what was discussed except: Tank Cars, Tank Cars, Tank Cars and Conical Rivets. At the time the only finely detailed kit available in 1/87 scale was the Tichy kit and we are familiar with its limitations of usefulness. Richard H. was there either in the audience or on the panel and I am sure offered up some possibilities.


It does not seem like it was very long after this discussion—a year or so, maybe a little longer—that the InterMountain ACF Type 27 kit appeared and Sunshine's Type 27 8K Insulated Tank Car kit followed it. (For the life of me I cannot believe IM has still not cut a tool to do this tank!!!!). Then came the Proto 2000 ACF Type 21 kits, Sunshine X-3 kits, five (now seven) Southern Car & Foundry kits, one from Speedwitch, more Sunshine until today with Tangent, Resin Car Works, Broadway, Atlas and who know who and what may be around the corner.

While I am not saying that Saturday Night Panel is responsible for the wealth of possibilities we have now, but certainly a "seed was planted" and Richard was cultivating the soil educating us and manufacturers. Now it is Ted, Ed, and Dave that continue work.

Bill Welch
GN 53500-53999 Series 36 ft. Double Deck Stock Cars

Nelson Moyer
 

I bought Speedwitch K128, 36 ft. double deck series 53500-53999 stock car in Collinsville, and I’m having trouble finding prototype information online. In fact, the series range is the only prototype information I’ve found, other than the black and white prototype photo from Speedwitch. I need painting information for the car body and trucks, and any other photographs and prototype information would be helpful.

 

Nelson Moyer
Re: RI decals wanted

frograbbit602
 

Clark wrote, "friend is in need of the Rock Island 100 years of progress box car decals. He says he’s searched the current suppliers. Are they available? Does someone have a Champ set (if they made them) they’d part with? '

Howard Garner replied, " Have him check with Scale Model Supplies in St Paul. they bought the Camp Decal inventory.

Scale Modlel Supplies did purchase the final inventory of Camp Decal Company; however, not in sets.  The inventory was as it came from the printer prior to being broken into sets in packages.  Therefore, if you are looking for a set you must consult an old Champ Decal catalog to find the number of the Champ set you are looking for and provide Scale Models the set number.  Scale Model people will refer to the materials received from Champ that tell them how to put a decal set together from the printed decals sheets to see if the set requested can be made up.  If it can be made up Scale Models notifies you that the Champ set requested can be purchased.

How do I know this?  I have been through the process several times with success with some sets and not with others.

Lester Breuer



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> friend is in need of the Rock Island 100 years of progress box car decals. He says he’s searched the current suppliers. Are they available? Does someone have a Champ set (if they made them) they’d part with?
> Thanks!!
> Clark Propst
> Mason City Iowa


Have him check with Scale Model Supplies in St Paul. they bought the
Camp Decal inventory.

Howard Garner
Nice CoG gon

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Re: Decal source

Rick Jesionowski
 

Tommy Gilberts Hobby Shop in Gettysburg, PA

Rick Jesionowski
Re: RI decals wanted

earlyrail
 

friend is in need of the Rock Island 100 years of progress box car decals. He says he’s searched the current suppliers. Are they available? Does someone have a Champ set (if they made them) they’d part with?
Thanks!!
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

Have him check with Scale Model Supplies in St Paul. they bought the Camp Decal inventory.

Howard Garner
Re: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Interesting Freight Car

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

....and that indeed is a coke plant in back. You can see the batteries in distant right. The building to front is where coal is charged into larry cars for charging the batteries. What we are looking at in front is likely the yard where outbounds and inbounds are handled for in-plant switching. The coke in the loaded cars is finer than you usually see coke, but it was produced in several grades for different uses.

Great shot!

Elden Gatwood

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The sign reads “FOR EXCLUSIVE USE BETWEEN LACLEDE COKE PLANT & MISSISSIPPI VALLEY IRON WORKS”. That would place it in the St. Louis Terminal district with my guess being the south side on the Iron Mountain perhaps in Lesperance Street yard just south of the Municipal (Free) Bridge, aka the MacArthur Bridge. I will defer to Ed Hawkins for more detailed information or any corrections to my best guess on the location.



David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri



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Here is a photo link from the Barriger Library:



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Use the arrow pointing down at the lower right corner to see a larger version of the photo.



This undated photo was taken on the Missouri Pacific.



Notice the distinctive car in the middle of the photo. This appears to be a car that was in captive service and didn't leave the MP. The car lacks initials and a road number but does have a sign that begins to read "For Exclusive Use..."



I'm sure some of you already know all about this or similar cars so please share what you know.



Thanks.



Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: Interesting Freight Car

Douglas Harding
 

That is a coke rack, most likely placed on a flatcar body, or possibly a gon. The car is used to transport coke. Lettering would be like that found on flatcars or gons.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

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The sign reads “FOR EXCLUSIVE USE BETWEEN LACLEDE COKE PLANT & MISSISSIPPI VALLEY IRON WORKS”.  That would place it in the St. Louis Terminal district with my guess being the south side on the Iron Mountain perhaps in Lesperance Street yard just south of the Municipal (Free) Bridge, aka the MacArthur Bridge.  I will defer to Ed Hawkins for more detailed information or any corrections to my best guess on the location.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

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Here is a photo link from the Barriger Library:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12482153214/in/dateposted/

 

Use the arrow pointing down at the lower right corner to see a larger version of the photo.

 

This undated photo was taken on the Missouri Pacific.

 

Notice the distinctive car in the middle of the photo. This appears to be a car that was in captive service and didn't leave the MP. The car lacks initials and a road number but does have a sign that begins to read "For Exclusive Use..."

 

I'm sure some of you already know all about this or similar cars so please share what you know.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
What decal to use?

Jared Harper
 

I want a decal for a USRA DS box car circa May 1943.  Tichy shows two--10082 and 10083.  The 10082 shows with darker paint.

Thanks.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA
Re: RI decals wanted

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Pretty sure I do. I’ll check when I get home.





Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni



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Subject: [STMFC] RI decals wanted





A friend is in need of the Rock Island 100 years of progress box car decals. He says he’s searched the current suppliers. Are they available? Does someone have a Champ set (if they made them) they’d part with?

Thanks!!

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa
RI decals wanted

Clark Propst
 

A friend is in need of the Rock Island 100 years of progress box car decals. He says he’s searched the current suppliers. Are they available? Does someone have a Champ set (if they made them) they’d part with?
Thanks!!
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa
Re: Interesting Freight Car

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro asked:
"Here is a photo link from the Barriger Library:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12482153214/in/dateposted/
 
This undated photo was taken on the Missouri Pacific.
 
Notice the distinctive car in the middle of the photo. This appears to be a car that was in captive service and didn't leave the MP. The car lacks initials and a road number but does have a sign that begins to read 'For Exclusive Use...'
 
I'm sure some of you already know all about this or similar cars so please share what you know."


David Jobe, Sr. replied: 
"The sign reads 'FOR EXCLUSIVE USE BETWEEN LACLEDE COKE PLANT & MISSISSIPPI VALLEY IRON WORKS'.  That would place it in the St. Louis Terminal district with my guess being the south side on the Iron Mountain perhaps in Lesperance Street yard just south of the Municipal (Free) Bridge, aka the MacArthur Bridge.  I will defer to Ed Hawkins for more detailed information or any corrections to my best guess on the location."

This is a coke rack.  Coke is less dense than coal and is in large chunks, so a tall car with slats is good enough to handle this cargo.  The presence of stock cars with this car is no accident as some stock cars of the late 19th and early 20th century were equipped with drop doors for use of the cars to handle coke.


Ben Hom 
Re: Interesting Freight Car

David Jobe, Sr.
 

The sign reads “FOR EXCLUSIVE USE BETWEEN LACLEDE COKE PLANT & MISSISSIPPI VALLEY IRON WORKS”.  That would place it in the St. Louis Terminal district with my guess being the south side on the Iron Mountain perhaps in Lesperance Street yard just south of the Municipal (Free) Bridge, aka the MacArthur Bridge.  I will defer to Ed Hawkins for more detailed information or any corrections to my best guess on the location.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

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Subject: [STMFC] Interesting Freight Car

 




Here is a photo link from the Barriger Library:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12482153214/in/dateposted/

 

Use the arrow pointing down at the lower right corner to see a larger version of the photo.

 

This undated photo was taken on the Missouri Pacific.

 

Notice the distinctive car in the middle of the photo. This appears to be a car that was in captive service and didn't leave the MP. The car lacks initials and a road number but does have a sign that begins to read "For Exclusive Use..."

 

I'm sure some of you already know all about this or similar cars so please share what you know.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: Interesting Freight Car

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Not lacking, most likely hidden by the cars in front. Note how tall it is compared to the CB&Q stock car it’s coupled to.





Thanks!
--

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Here is a photo link from the Barriger Library:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12482153214/in/dateposted/



Use the arrow pointing down at the lower right corner to see a larger version of the photo.



This undated photo was taken on the Missouri Pacific.



Notice the distinctive car in the middle of the photo. This appears to be a car that was in captive service and didn't leave the MP. The car lacks initials and a road number but does have a sign that begins to read "For Exclusive Use..."



I'm sure some of you already know all about this or similar cars so please share what you know.



Thanks.



Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA





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