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Re: Cambria & Indiana 2423 twin hopper in a wreck

Jack Mullen
 

The flat car seems to be 473849, F30a. Overturned behind it is probably an H21, with clamshell doors.

Jack Mullen


Interesting box car ATSF

Andy Carlson
 




Hi-
I found this interesting Santa Fe box car image which I wish to share with y'all.




this time DL&W 81318 twin hopper...

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

Another one, this time DL&W 81318 twin hopper...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16335049861/sizes/o/

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


Re: Cambria & Indiana 2423 twin hopper in a wreck

Eric Hansmann
 

That is very interesting. The C&I hopper has a 9-34 weigh date yet the car
lettering follows the pre-1927 ARA recommended practices. Notice the cubic
foot capacity is under the pound capacity below the car number. This will be
handy to decal a GLa or two in for my 1926 fleet.

Thanks!


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

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Subject: [STMFC] Cambria & Indiana 2423 twin hopper in a wreck

Hi List Members,

We get a nice image of Cambria & Indiana 2423 twin hopper in a wreck. The
car was built in 1917, and appears to be of similar
(identical?) design as the PRR class GLa cars.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16038384558/sizes/o/

There is also a nice view of the flat car it is riding on - too modern for
my late 1920's interests...

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Thanks Tim.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:14 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Announcement pages 1 & 2 uploaded

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36112470400/

Delivery is 15 MONTHS or more, but reservations end in ONE MONTH

Caveat emptor




Tim,

I do not see these on the American Limited web site. Do you have any additional information?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA




American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor



Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Tim O'Connor
 


Announcement pages 1 & 2 uploaded

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36112470400/

Delivery is 15 MONTHS or more, but reservations end in ONE MONTH

Caveat emptor




Tim,

I do not see these on the American Limited web site. Do you have any additional information?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA




American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor


Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Tim,

I do not see these on the American Limited web site. Do you have any additional information?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Aug 11, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor



Re: Santa Fe RR-44 reefrigerator

charles slater
 

This is not much help, but these cars were hard to find.

Charlie Slater

Bakersfield, Ca.


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Subject: [STMFC] Santa Fe RR-44 reefrigerator



I have the Sunshine Models, kit 94.1, Santa Fe Refrigerator RR-44 I am beginning to build. The kit instructions do not have a view of either end. Instructions show Side view only as does Ted Culotta in Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Vol. 3 Refrigerator Cars, p. 119. However, Ted in the book does have end view of the "B" end for SFRD number 9369 a RR-43 on page 113. I am wondering if the "B" end on the RR-44 would have a similar placement of the retainer valve and line. Thank You in advance for your assistance.

Lester Breuer

rabbit602




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Re: Bulkhead Flats Used As General Purpose Flats

Tim O'Connor
 


Also kraft paper rolls (SP), logs, aluminum ingots, transformers, machinery, pulpwood, automobile parts bins,
cannisters, railroad ties, steel beams, shipping containers, steel coils, wire bales, cable reels, soil pipe (SSW
had some bulkhead flats with "side gates" for what they call "soil pipe" - we saw and photographed some of these
cars in Texas in the 1960's), rebar, precast concrete, and steel castings

All the above examples, plus your examples, are found in images on my hard drive.

Tim O'Connor




Every prototype photo I've seen of a loaded bulkhead flat car shows the kind of load appropriate for this type of car, such as pipe, lumber, plaster board, steel plate and poles.

Bob Chaparro


Cambria & Indiana 2423 twin hopper in a wreck

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

We get a nice image of Cambria & Indiana 2423 twin hopper in a wreck. The car was built in 1917, and appears to be of similar (identical?) design as the PRR class GLa cars.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16038384558/sizes/o/

There is also a nice view of the flat car it is riding on - too modern for my late 1920's interests...

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Tim O'Connor
 

American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor


Bulkhead Flats Used As General Purpose Flats

thecitrusbelt@...
 

For the era of this group, how common would it have been for bulkhead flat cars to have been used as general purpose flats cars? Due to their purpose-built design I would assume some bulkhead flat cars were in dedicated service for at least part of their lives.

 

Every prototype photo I've seen of a loaded bulkhead flat car shows the kind of load appropriate for this type of car, such as pipe, lumber, plaster board, steel plate and poles.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite hopper)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Hi, Claus -


Thank you for posting these photo links.


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite hopper)

 

And a CNW gray reefer ahead of the RI





Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni



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That is a nice shot!

It looks like a Berwind hopper behind the tender and possibly a Cambria &
Indiana hopper next. I'm basing this on the herald locations and could be
mistaken.

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

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Subject: [STMFC] nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326
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Hi List Members,

We get nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite
hopper)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16225934465/sizes/o/

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund





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Re: nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite hopper)

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

I don't see a brake wheel on the Rock Island auto car. Does it have some sort of ratchet device? Neat 3/3 ends.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 8/11/17 3:54 PM, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
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That is a nice shot!

It looks like a Berwind hopper behind the tender and possibly a Cambria &
Indiana hopper next. I'm basing this on the herald locations and could be
mistaken.

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

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Subject: [STMFC] nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326
(composite hopper)

Hi List Members,

We get nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite
hopper)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16225934465/sizes/o/

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund



Re: Santa Fe RR-44 refrigerator

Steve SANDIFER
 

Yes. The RR43 and RR44 were under construction at the same time with the same ends and same layout. The Society Ice reefer book shows photos of the B end of both and they appear very similar. In those photos, the mounts holding the retainer line to the end were in different location along the line and goes straight down because the center sill and coupler mounting is different. The brake platform supports appears a bit more lopsided on the 44. The 44 was a new build, the 43 was a rebuild which resulted in the necessity of some minor differences.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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Subject: [STMFC] Santa Fe RR-44 refrigerator

 

 

I have the Sunshine Models, kit 94.1, Santa Fe Refrigerator RR-44 I am beginning to build.  The kit instructions do not have a view of either end. Instructions show Side view only as does Ted Culotta in Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Vol. 3 Refrigerator Cars,  p. 119.  However, Ted in the book does have end view of the "B" end for SFRD number 9369 a RR-43 on page 113.  I am wondering if the "B" end on the RR-44 would have a similar placement of the retainer valve and line.   Thank You in advance for your assistance.

Lester Breuer

 


Re: nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite hopper)

Eric Hansmann
 

That is a nice shot!

It looks like a Berwind hopper behind the tender and possibly a Cambria &
Indiana hopper next. I'm basing this on the herald locations and could be
mistaken.

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 2:45 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326
(composite hopper)

Hi List Members,

We get nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite
hopper)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16225934465/sizes/o/

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite hopper)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

We get nice views of RI 160058 (40ft SS auto box) and D&H 1-326 (composite hopper)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16225934465/sizes/o/

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


Re: Santa Fe RR-44 reefrigerator

frograbbit602
 

Tim I do have the book in the library. I will have check it out.
Lester Breuer


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Lester do you have The Great Yellow Fleet ? Page 168 has a builder photo
that shows the B end of an Rr-44.

It looks to me like the retainer valve line is just to the right of the handbrake.

Tim O'Connor


I have the Sunshine Models, kit 94.1, Santa Fe Refrigerator RR-44 I am beginning to build.  The kit instructions do not have a view of either end. Instructions show Side view only as does Ted Culotta in Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Vol. 3 Refrigerator Cars,  p. 119.  However, Ted in the book does have end view of the "B" end for SFRD number 9369 a RR-43 on page 113.  I am wondering if the "B" end on the RR-44 would have a similar placement of the retainer valve and line.   Thank You in advance for your assistance.

Lester Breuer


Re: Freight car types (Push-Pole or Poling Pockets)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Yes, this is over a decade late, but actually, either term is correct.


The 1906 Locomotive Dictionary, compiled for the American Railway Master Mechanics' Association by George L. Fowler, Associate Member, American Railway Master Mechanics' Association, and published by Railroad Gazette, lists on page 347 a part (No. 18) of a tender underframe designated as a "poling pocket".


According to the introduction to this book The Railroad Gazette was "empowered to publish, under the supervision of a committee of this Association, an illustrated dictionary which shall give the proper names of each and every part used in the building of locomotives."


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



 


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