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Ebay brass freight cars (tank cars, hopper, reefer)

Tim O'Connor
 


W. A. Drake #1001 Southern Pacific SP #47792 O-50-14 GATC tank car factory paint
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322666061447

Overland OMI 3249.1 MDT #8000 wood sheathed refrigerator car factory painted
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322666252464

W&R Enterprises Great Northern GN #78145 ACF-Rodgers-Hart hopper custom painted
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322666073415

W. A. Drake #1008 AESX #97 GATC tank car A. E. Staley factory painted
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322666052535

W. A. Drake #1009 BCOX #200 GATC tank car Baker Castor Oil factory painted
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322666046611

Thanks for looking!

Tim O'Connor


Re: Stock cars : racks

Steve SANDIFER
 

The 1888 ORER published by Westerfield shows the AT&SF having a large group of Rack Stk cars. In fact they have either combination box/stock or rack stock cars, no simple stock cars. My 1879 Live List also shows them as Rack Stock cars.







J. Stephen Sandifer



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??????

I just went through the first 100 pages of the June 1890 ORER and didn't see the word "rack" associated with stock cars once. I did see "Palace", "SD" and "DD".



Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



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The ORER refers to stock cars (1890s) as “racks,” not double deck, or single deck, or Palace, but racks. Can anyone tell me what that means?





J. Stephen Sandifer











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Re: with regard to the car immediately behind the locomotive

Dave Nelson
 

There was a pair of car images in one eBay in the last 10-14 days, one of
which looked VERY much like this one. One of them was said to be a very
early UTL car. Unfortunately I did not keep a copy nor do I recall now
whether the UTRL car was similar to the car in this image. My point is the
car in this image could be an ancient UTL car and to suggest it's an all
wood car from at or before the turn of the century.

Dave Nelson

-----Original Message-----

This is a test of LV 5005, a three-cylinder 4-8-2. My question is with
regard to the car immediately behind the locomotive. I thought at first this
might be a vinegar tank car, but closer inspection makes me think otherwise.

I imagine the caboose is present so the test engineering staff has a place
to ride. So therefore I figure the tank car might possibly be part of the
test as well. Is this an auxilliary tender of some sort?

Claus Schlund


SOLD: Sunshine Models UTLX X-3 resin tank car kits

Andy Carlson
 



Gone. Thanks,
-Andy
 
Hello-
I have two Sunshine UTLX X-3 tank car kits which I am offering up for sale.

1) SS #62.1 UTLX X-3 10 K tank car
2) SS #62.2 UTLX X-3 Short 8K tank car

These are both brand new, purchased at Naperville. No packing tape, address labels or metered postage marring the boxes. The contents are undisturbed as I have never peaked inside the boxes.

Offered for $99 for both kits, shipping to US addresses included. Contact me off-list for details @ I accept checks/money orders. With a small fee, I also accept PayPal.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



Sunshine Models UTLX X-3 resin tank car kits

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have two Sunshine UTLX X-3 tank car kits which I am offering up for sale.

1) SS #62.1 UTLX X-3 10 K tank car
2) SS #62.2 UTLX X-3 Short 8K tank car

These are both brand new, purchased at Naperville. No packing tape, address labels or metered postage marring the boxes. The contents are undisturbed as I have never peaked inside the boxes.

Offered for $99 for both kits, shipping to US addresses included. Contact me off-list for details @ I accept checks/money orders. With a small fee, I also accept PayPal.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: WTB: Undecorated Kit—Red Caboose HO version of Southern Pacific Flat Car

Bill Welch
 

Wish Fulfilled!

Bill Welch


Re: FUNARO & CAMERLENGO KITS FOR SALE

Gary Wildung
 


Thank You for all that looked The PRR Depressed Flat has been Sold
Gary


 




WTB: Undecorated Kit—Red Caboose HO version of Southern Pacific Flat Car

Bill Welch
 

Hoping someone here has one the Red Caboose versions of the Southern Pacific flat cars—undecorated & unassembled—they are willing to sell. If so please contact me OFF LIST at fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com


To be clear I am aware of the version offered by the SP H&TS and that is NOT the version I want.


Thank you,

Bill Welch


Re: Stock cars : racks

Tom Vanwormer
 

Guys,
Some of the early "humane" stock cars had both internal and external racks to store the food that was to be consumed during the travel by the stock.  They also had water troughs and tanks to keep the critters watered.  Not a big success since eventually the livestock was stopped after the 28 or 36 hours and fed and watered in the on-line stock pens. 

Tom VanWormer
Monument CO

Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
??????
I just went through the first 100 pages of the June 1890 ORER and didn't see the word "rack" associated with stock cars once. I did see "Palace", "SD" and "DD".
 
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



From: "'Steve Sandifer' steve.sandifer@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 3:28 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Stock cars : racks



The ORER refers to stock cars (1890s) as “racks,” not double deck, or single deck, or Palace, but racks.  Can anyone tell me what that means?
 
 
J. Stephen Sandifer
 





Re: In search of Optivisor recommendations

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Well, Bill, I tried them in the local CVS, and realized it was a no-go for me. I need my regular progressive-lensed glasses on so that when I drop some bit of my freight car (got to say SOMETHING about freight cars here!) on the floor, I can flip up the ‘visor and find it (I hope) and then just put the visor back down . . .



I must say that unlike most of those who have commented on this thread, I don’t live with the ‘visor on. I do most of my modeling without it, but when it’s what you need, there is no substitute.



Schuyler





Well...I wouldn't call my vision good. I am also near sighted in my left eye and really near sighted in my right eye since youth plus an astigmatism. I need glasses to drive. For decades my right eye was my close up modeling eye until, with age I guess, I couldn't focus anymore on detail for my steam era freight cars. The cheap reading glasses fixed that. My eye doc concurred with my solution. Your mileage my vary, of course, and it won't cost you a dime to try on a pair at the store.



Bill Darnaby





Wayne, they may work very well for those whose vision is otherwise good, just magnifying things so they can be seen. But for those of us who are nearsighted, farsighted (and Bill, who’s remarkably one of each!!), or have astigmatism, and have to wear glasses to get out of bed safely in the morning, the Optivisor or equivalent is pretty much the only solution.







Schuyler











I agree with William - Walmart 3x reading glasses for $5 or so. Work great.



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Re: Stock cars : racks

Ray Breyer
 

??????
I just went through the first 100 pages of the June 1890 ORER and didn't see the word "rack" associated with stock cars once. I did see "Palace", "SD" and "DD".
 
Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



From: "'Steve Sandifer' steve.sandifer@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 3:28 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Stock cars : racks



The ORER refers to stock cars (1890s) as “racks,” not double deck, or single deck, or Palace, but racks.  Can anyone tell me what that means?
 
 
J. Stephen Sandifer
 





Re: In search of Optivisor recommendations

Peter Burr <pburr47@...>
 

I have used one of the cheap Harbor Freight type versions which includes a weak LED light source for several years with fairly good satisfaction. That said, I just bought an Optivisor knock-off on Ebay including four lenses (1.5x, 2.0x, 2.5x, and 3.5x) for $23.18, (free shipping). The difference in clarity is immediately noticeable. I also bought an LED attachment for it for $24.95, (free shipping), which I highly recommend. I could easily model in a completely dark room wearing this rig! Light + Magnification = Vision. The lenses are easy to change, or you could just buy another set for that price.
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Re: In search of Optivisor recommendations

william darnaby
 

Well...I wouldn't call my vision good.  I am also near sighted in my left eye and really near sighted in my right eye since youth plus an astigmatism.  I need glasses to drive.  For decades my right eye was my close up modeling eye until, with age I guess, I couldn't focus anymore on detail for my steam era freight cars.  The cheap reading glasses fixed that.  My eye doc concurred with my solution.  Your mileage my vary, of course, and it won't cost you a dime to try on a pair at the store.

Bill Darnaby



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Wayne, they may work very well for those whose vision is otherwise good, just magnifying things so they can be seen.  But for those of us who are nearsighted, farsighted (and Bill, who’s remarkably one of each!!), or have astigmatism, and have to wear glasses to get out of bed safely in the morning, the Optivisor or equivalent is pretty much the only solution.



Schuyler



 

I agree with William - Walmart 3x reading glasses for $5 or so.  Work great.

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Op sessions on the Alma branch for September, October, November and December

Jared Harper
 

It is time to decide on dates in September, October, November and December for op sessions on Santa Fe's Alma branch.

Saturday September 30th

Sunday October 8th or Sunday October 15th

Sunday November 5th or Sunday November 19th

Saturday December 16th.

If you are interested in participating in an op session on Santa Fe's Alma branch on any of these dates please contact me.  The op sessions begin at noon with lunch.  A session runs 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours.  I have been operating with a three man crew--engineer, conductor and brakeman.  I want to try having a four man crew with two brakemen

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606
706-543-8821



Re: In search of Optivisor recommendations

spsalso
 

I am nearsighted.  My vision is sharp from around 8" to about 24" without glasses.

I have three Optivisors:  #3, #5 and #10, and have had them for at least 10 years..  I wear them without glasses.

I use the #5 almost exclusively.  As I was just a minute ago, and will when I go back to modeling in another few minutes.  It's on my head often enough that my neighbors must think I'm a counterfeiter or something.

I've never used the #3.  I occasionally use the #10 for close work.  It has an irritatingly close depth of field, so it's not an everyday sort of thing.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: with regard to the car immediately behind the locomotive

np328
 

       I would agree with Chuck on this. I have seen files in my studied railroad of trials like this. The testing is often done many times in repetition over the same route with varying loads and many of the conditions present are charted on (typically) 14 x 17 inch multi columned charts. (today's term - spreadsheet)
       Variables charted are of course tonnage, outside temp, wind, coal and water usage.  

Using the tank behind the tender as a tender tank as some roads (mine also) would save time if no standpipes were easily found nearby. It would also make monitoring the water easier.
      
            Of the test chart I looked on were about adjusting the diameter of the blast pipe and in doing so, 900 additional horsepower were generated. Doesn't seem like much however it enabled several thousand more of the railroad cars we talk of here to be handled per year and quite a bit of dollar savings. The chart of these studies was about an inch thick and covered two months of trial.
     Of the caboose, no doubt provided for the local trainmaster, road foreman of engineers, and as was mentioned, company sales persons.

     The page of the photo talks about the conversion costs were justified by the study with the conversion costs being a bit less than $28K per locomotive. In 1938, $28K times however many locomotives, I would think a princely sum.

All to get more of the cars we study here, over the road cheaper, faster.                Jim Dick - St. Paul
 


Re: In search of Optivisor recommendations

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Wayne, they may work very well for those whose vision is otherwise good, just magnifying things so they can be seen. But for those of us who are nearsighted, farsighted (and Bill, who’s remarkably one of each!!), or have astigmatism, and have to wear glasses to get out of bed safely in the morning, the Optivisor or equivalent is pretty much the only solution.



Schuyler





I agree with William - Walmart 3x reading glasses for $5 or so. Work great.

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Wayne Cohen





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Stock cars : racks

Steve SANDIFER
 

The ORER refers to stock cars (1890s) as “racks,” not double deck, or single deck, or Palace, but racks.  Can anyone tell me what that means?

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 


Re: with regard to the car immediately behind the locomotive

rwitt_2000
 

Chuck,

My thought also, a separate "water bottle" allows independent measurement of water consumption for their testing.

Is the caboose a LV one or one supplied by the Superheater Company?

Bob Witt


Re: In search of Optivisor reccomendations

Wayne Cohen
 

I agree with William - Walmart 3x reading glasses for $5 or so.  Work great.
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