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Northern Pacific 10000-series boxcar

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

    I think it's been 6 months, I try to ask every 6 months.  How is progress on this car?  I will not make any comment about buses:-(!

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: tank car builder identification

Jack Mullen
 

Looks like an AC&F underframe to me. The stamped bracket for the tank bands appeared on some Type 27s, late '30s or early '40s IIRC. Of course, if built then, the KD brake is anachronistic.

The lettering is a puzzle. "USAF" is post 1947, but wasn't an assigned reporting marks, I believe. There's no tank data stencilling no any visible repack or air brake stencilling. I don't think these are in interchange.

Actually I wonder if they're narrow gauge.

Jack Mullen


Re: tank car builder identification

Tim O'Connor
 


Ian, the trucks do seem very small and the coupler seems too large!
You could be correct - or could this be a standard gauge car mounted
on narrow gauge trucks?? The body seems to hang way over the outside
of the trucks.

Tim




Hoping to find out who built this car... Supposedly the photo was
taken somewhere in Canada. Also, are those KD brakes?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36677981792/


Ian Cranstone replied

Tim, I suspect this is a narrow-gauge car in Newfoundland service.  As you may recall, during the Second World War, Britain traded bases for old destroyers, including some in Newfoundland (then a British colony).  Since this car is lettered for the U.S. Air Force, I'm assuming that we are looking at a photo taken sometime circa or after 1947, and likely in aviation gasoline service or possibly jet fuel.

I believe this car was likely built by Canadian Car & Foundry, whose standard cars seem to have a lot in common with AC&F cars.  I presume that they built AC&F frames under licence, but don't know this for a fact.


Re: Wanted: Intermountain undec stock car kit 42999

Allan Smith
 

I have one 42999 K brake stock car kit. I am willing to sell it to you for my cost. Please contact me off list.

Al Smith 
Sonora Ca


On Sunday, August 27, 2017 11:29 AM, "Jim Hayes jimhayes97225@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I'm looking for an Intermountain 42999 UNDEC stock car kit.
42999 is the version with K brakes and ends with no toe holes.

Jim Hayes



Re: 40' diagonal panel roof

Allan Smith
 

I have 4 IM and 2 Branchline 140001 Diagonal Panel Roofs that are available for sale. Please contact me off list.

Al Smith
Sonora Ca


On Friday, August 25, 2017 8:00 PM, "'Steve Sandifer' steve.sandifer@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Since Atlas seems to no longer handle Branchline 40’ diagonal panel roofs, does anyone have a suggestion of where to find such?
 
 
J. Stephen Sandifer
 



Re: tank car builder identification

Ian Cranstone
 

On 2017-08-27, at 3:22 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Hoping to find out who built this car... Supposedly the photo was
taken somewhere in Canada. Also, are those KD brakes?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36677981792/


Tim, I suspect this is a narrow-gauge car in Newfoundland service.  As you may recall, during the Second World War, Britain traded bases for old destroyers, including some in Newfoundland (then a British colony).  Since this car is lettered for the U.S. Air Force, I'm assuming that we are looking at a photo taken sometime circa or after 1947, and likely in aviation gasoline service or possibly jet fuel.

I believe this car was likely built by Canadian Car & Foundry, whose standard cars seem to have a lot in common with AC&F cars.  I presume that they built AC&F frames under licence, but don't know this for a fact.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada


Re: tank car builder identification

Ed Hawkins
 


On Aug 27, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

Dennis, I certainly thought so, but Ed Hawkins says not. They are an
early type of AB brake from the early 1930's - according to Ed.

Tim,
Sometimes Ed says things that aren’t correct, particularly when working with too many balls in the air as was the case this time with my primary focus on another freight car topic. I regret not doing due-dilligence before sending my reply to you.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: tank car builder identification

Tim O'Connor
 


Dennis, I certainly thought so, but Ed Hawkins says not. They are an
early type of AB brake from the early 1930's - according to Ed.


...Also, are those KD brakes?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36677981792/
Tim O'Connor

======================

Yes.

Dennis Storzek


Re: tank car builder identification

Dave Parker
 

It looks like an AC&F Type 21 underframe to my eye, but I would defer to Ted or one of the other tank car gurus. 

Based on builder's photos, AC&F applied KD brakes to tanks cars starting in 1917, and all cars built in 1919 and 1920 seem to have had them.  Photos from 1921 are pretty scarce, while 1922 seems to represent the switch back to KC (in the main).

KDs on cars of the period built by other companies are very rare in my experience.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Sunday, August 27, 2017 12:23 PM, "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 

Hoping to find out who built this car... Supposedly the photo was
taken somewhere in Canada. Also, are those KD brakes?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36677981792/

Tim O'Connor




Re: NPS Steamtown Images - PRR X25 circa 1921

Jack Mullen
 

Tim Barney said:
And that the brake wheel was installed upside down on the shaft.
I don't think so. The curved spokes are oriented properly to ease the use of a brake club or hickey when applying the handbrake, (turning the wheel clockwise). Also, use of a tapered socket in the wheel that fits a square tapered section of the shaft should prevent the wheel being installed incorrectly.

Jack Mullen


Re: tank car builder identification

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote :

...Also, are those KD brakes?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36677981792/

Tim O'Connor
======================

Yes.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Santa Fe stock cars

Steve SANDIFER
 

Thank you.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:29 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Santa Fe stock cars

 

 

Steve,
in O scale, SK-2 &-3, Rich Yoder Models, brass import in O and Proto-48.

Jack Mullen


Items Still Available

hubert mask
 

Good afternoon.   Just a quick note to advise that I have only one 4 pack BLI Canadian Industries 6000 gallon tank cars available.  Also listed on my web site are a few remaining Cryogenic Tank cars from BLI still available.  Plus 2 left C&O Alix Tenders Plain, #614-A.   I pay the shipping.  Please visit my web site at www.maskislanddecals.com   


Don't forget to check out the many Steam Era decal sets.


Thank you.


Hubert Mask


Mask Island Decals Inc.




tank car builder identification

Tim O'Connor
 

Hoping to find out who built this car... Supposedly the photo was
taken somewhere in Canada. Also, are those KD brakes?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36677981792/

Tim O'Connor


Wanted: Intermountain undec stock car kit 42999

Jim Hayes
 

I'm looking for an Intermountain 42999 UNDEC stock car kit.
42999 is the version with K brakes and ends with no toe holes.

Jim Hayes


Re: Santa Fe stock cars

tjcataldo
 

Pecos River Brass   steve for ho and  n  scale stock cars

     tom cataldo

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:42 PM, 'Steve Sandifer' steve.sandifer@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

I am an HO modeler, so I do not know what has been produced in other scales. I am trying to document everyone who has produced a “prototypical” Santa Fe stock car. Here is my current list. Can you add to it.

 

HO scale

SK-L, N, M, O, P – Westerfield

SK-M, O - Sunshine

SK-Q, R. S, T, U – Intermountain with reservations, Sunshine, Pecos River

SK-2, 3 – Westerfield

SK-4, Z – Sunshine

1990 Horse cars – Coach Yard, Nickel Plate Car Company, Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society

 

N Scale

SK-Q, R. S, T, U – Intermountain with reservations, Pecos River

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 




--
Thomas  j Cataldo


Re: NPS Steamtown Images - PRR X25 circa 1921

tbarney2004
 

And that the brake wheel was installed upside down on the shaft.

Tim Barney

On 8/23/2017 9:55 AM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:
Three other interesting, albeit small, details:

1.) The corner grab on the Latitudinal

2.) The large nuts used to hold the brake wheel to the brake shaft

3.) the Retainer valve in this photo and the low 3/4 shot clearly different that the RV's used in forties and fifties. Anyone know when these changed?

Bill Welch



Re: DRILLING INTO SOFT METAL

Ken Adams
 


Re: NOT FOR SISSY'S

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Estate sales can make these sometimes-hard-to find kits a drug on the market, so prices follow the inevitable rules of the open market. Surplus = lower prices. Lower prices move product.



Schuyler





If it is Bill Harris he has dropped his prices. Regarding Dennis' kits if you have never built one you owe it yourself to buy and build one. I don't know what a sissy is but the kits are a joy to build.



Bill Welch





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Re: NOT FOR SISSY'S

Bill Welch
 

If it is Bill Harris he has dropped his prices. Regarding Dennis' kits if you have never built one you owe it yourself to buy and build one. I don't know what a sissy is but the kits are a joy to build.

Bill Welch

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