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Selling surplus models etc at Cocoa Beach

Bill McCoy
 

Like a lot of us the passage of time is forcing some of us to down size and reduce the fleet and library. I know  in the past limited table space in the model display rooms has been available to sell stuff as individuals. My surplus is reaching a point where I probably need a table. What's the procedure to get space in a public area of the Hilton?


Thanks,


Bill McCoy 

Sarasota, FL. 


Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo (Steam Loco Hulk)

Tim O'Connor
 


A wrecked diesel makes a fine flat car or gondola load. I can supply pictures. :-)

Tim O'Connor



Just no cut-up diesels, please.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Location Of Reporting Marks

Tony Thompson
 

I know that in 1909 the Master Car Builders' issued a standard requiring reporting marks to be located at left end of a car's side. But every once or so I see a photo of a car with the reporting marks on the right end, such as this example:


      It is important to recognize that a "standard" was not necessarily REQUIRED to be followed. It was common for double-door cars to have the reporting marks to the right of the car door; many railroads did that, including SP (with 40-ft. DD cars, anyway).
       There were lots of "standard" lettering arrangements that individual railroads could, and did, violate as they saw fit

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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo (Steam Loco Hulk)

Jeffrey White
 

If you model the steam or transition era, a load of scrap that comes from steam locomotives is prototypical.  I have a photo of an IC gondola that was cut down to a low side gon and is lettered for scrap service to one of the big roundhouses (Markham IIRC) I've got a gondola load of steam loco scrap, I never imagined it would offend anyone......

Jeff White

Alma, IL


On 9/30/2017 1:28 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Yes, I know people who are offended by what they perceive is a desecration of any steam locomotive, but when it comes to a gondola scrap load, "parts is parts".

 

Just no cut-up diesels, please.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo (Steam Loco Hulk)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Yes, I know people who are offended by what they perceive is a desecration of any steam locomotive, but when it comes to a gondola scrap load, "parts is parts".

 

Just no cut-up diesels, please.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Location Of Reporting Marks

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I know that in 1909 the Master Car Builders' issued a standard requiring reporting marks to be located at left end of a car's side. But every once or so I see a photo of a car with the reporting marks on the right end, such as this example:

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2713914

 

And while this photo was taken in 1977 (admittedly past our group's time frame) I believe the shadow keystone herald was used from about 1954 to the early 1960s, which is within our time frame.

 

So, was the original Master Car Builders' standard replaced or relaxed at some point?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bob,

I caught it, but refrained from mentioning same for fear of offending somebody. Believe it or not, it happened to me. 

Many years ago I did some assembly work for Grandtline, building air pumps up from several pieces. They were to be used as investments for lost wax castings on a D&RGW narrow gauge 2-8-2. I was allowed to keep any that were defective, and a lot of them lost the tiny little piston during casting or in handling/assembly. Some of the defects were glued together, weathered up and used as a gondola load. When I took this car to the club, several die-hard steam fans were really insulted and angry that I would commit such sacrilege!

I still have the load, and could put it into another gondola someday. I still have a mess of the failures, and might have enough to do two cars. 😈

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On Sep 30, 2017, at 12:24 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Did anyone notice the steam engine boiler in the second gondola?


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


caboose casting/kits

ed_mines
 

Anyone have any half built/complete Ambroid/Q'craft caboose kits they'd be willing to get rid of? contact me directly.


ed mines


Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Did anyone notice the steam engine boiler in the second gondola?


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves

Tim O'Connor
 


I by gloves from Harbor Freight. They last about 2 years before the rubber
falls apart.

I use 200 grit aluminum oxide. Very safe to use on anything. Larger grit will
work faster but can cause damage to soft materials.




I need to do some heavy maintenance on my old North Coast sandblasting booth.  I need new gloves for it.  Can anyone recommend good gloves and an online place to get them?  Also, what blasting media is recommended for plastic and resin models?

Thanks so much,
 
John Golden
Albersbach, DE


Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo

Tim O'Connor
 


The number looks like 604697 which would make it 687-G (1939 rebuilds
from four donor lots)

  http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-687.jpg

Tim O'



 Is any one able to identify this NYC gondola or its Lot number?
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/112567520749
 Regards,
 Robert Bogie


Re: Side reporting marks

Tim O'Connor
 


You catch on quickly, Tony. Perhaps you're not familiar with the "parts of
speech" use of the word BUT in this case used to introduce something contrasting
with what has already been mentioned. In other words, I corrected my previous
statement with those examples.

Tim "grammar nazi" O'Connor


Very interesting Tony, since I have a BUILDER PHOTO from July 1946 with the
simple SP and no road name.

   Builders did not always follow the latest drawing, Tim. There are lots of examples from lots of roads, including SP. I'd be happy to supply examples. And anyway, this one is only off one month.

BUT on further photo searching, I found an Overnight B-50-24 with the simple
SP in July 1946, and another Overnight B-50-24 with the spelled out name from
September 1946.

           That doubtless reflects the changeover, one a month off and the other one correct. And BTW, I note you supply no examples of your claimed 1948 date.

Official documents are rarely as reliable as photographs. You can look that up, too.
         Nice try, Tim, but in this case your own examples strongly support the document date.


Tony Thompson


Please delete Larry Mennie's email address in your contact list

mrprksr <mrprksr@...>
 

please delete mrprksr@... from you contact list as Larry passed away suddenly on June 4th.
thank you,
Lucy Mennie


Re: Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves

T.J. Stratton
 

Hello John,


I purchased a 5lb. container of Badger Aluminum Oxide Abrasive from Amazon for under $30. I'm using a Harbor Freight Blasting Cabinet and their air eraser.  I have not had to replace the gloves.


TJ


TJ Stratton Maumee, OH. "Modeling the 1950's branch lines of the Michigan Central Railroad in southern Michigan" Mailto:michigancentralrr@...



From: STMFC@... on behalf of John Golden golden1014@... [STMFC]
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:15 AM
To: Yahoogroups; Yahoogroups; resinfreightcars@...
Subject: [STMFC] Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves
 
 

Hi All,

I need to do some heavy maintenance on my old North Coast sandblasting booth.  I need new gloves for it.  Can anyone recommend good gloves and an online place to get them?  Also, what blasting media is recommended for plastic and resin models?

Thanks so much,
 
John

John Golden
Albersbach, DE

https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/


Re: PFE R-40-10 reefer ice hatch detail (Holland Hatch Covers)

Larry Buell
 

Holland also has portable flash butt electrical welders for fabrication of continuous welder rail from stick rail.  Not sure when the portable welders were developed.

L. A. Buell


Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo

Benjamin Hom
 


Tough to pin this one down - the car number is barely legible, and a quick partial search at Terry Link's site of "601" as the first three numbers of the car series didn't turn up a match.  A search of "604" was more productive and turned up NYC 604000-604499, Lot 681-G, but these cars had Murphy ends, which the car in the photo does not.  The pattern of the side posts (10 posts, center two and third in from the ends extend below the car side) is the same.

It's possible that the end facing the camera was repaired after a wreck or replaced during the rebuilding, but this is speculation.  I'm hesitant to assign 100% confidence based on a clearance diagram with no supporting photograph, so I'm open to alternated IDs.


Ben Hom





Re: Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves

Bill Welch
 

Harbor Freight mail order for the gloves. For only etching the styrene or resin surfaces I use Baking Soda.

Bill Welch


Re: Facebook posting of 192 Life Pictures 1943 US Army Rail Move

John Barry
 

But it also explains why I've obtained three and have three more on order for my 1944 Santa Fe layout.  One will be a NWP car.
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Facebook posting of 192 Life Pictures 1943 US Army Rail Move

 

John LOL - that reminds me of Woody Allen's "Sleeper" where they try to
clone their great leader from his nose, the only remnant they have of him.

I've got the kits right here in front of me, the -5/8/9 and the -10/12. They
will both be in company MofW service. Really nice kits!

Tim O'Connor


One of the new Owl Mt flats has a prototype here: https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/12356665_1690862387826417_5537730881631793797_o.jpg?oh=d43479280dd7265618214baab0becfa0&oe=5A3D9402
John Barry



Re: Placards

RICH CHAPIN
 

This is from the General Notice Section of the 1912 regs. It ID's sequence
of the Regs, back to the 1909 law



Rich Chapin







From: Richard W. Chapin [mailto:rwc27q@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:40 AM
To: 'STMFC@yahoogroups.com' <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: Placards



Bob, et al.,



Copy of cover from first ICC Regulations; Bureau of Explosives
publication[s] may have preceded but this earliest Federal regulation I know
of. ICC was authorized to use Bureau of Explosive for setting its regs, not
sure which if these early laws did that.



My copy from the U of Minnesota via a google













Rich Chapin


Re: Placards

RICH CHAPIN
 

Bob, et al.,



Copy of cover from first ICC Regulations; Bureau of Explosives
publication[s] may have preceded but this earliest Federal regulation I know
of. ICC was authorized to use Bureau of Explosive for setting its regs, not
sure which if these early laws did that.



My copy from the U of Minnesota via a google













Rich Chapin

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