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Re: Location Of Reporting Marks
Tony Thompson
It is important to recognize that a "standard" was not necessarily REQUIRED to be followed. It was common for double-door cars to have the reporting marks to the right of the car door; many railroads did that, including SP (with 40-ft. DD cars, anyway). There were lots of "standard" lettering arrangements that individual railroads could, and did, violate as they saw fit Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo (Steam Loco Hulk)
Jeffrey White
If you model the steam or transition era, a load of scrap that comes from steam locomotives is prototypical. I have a photo of an IC gondola that was cut down to a low side gon and is lettered for scrap service to one of the big roundhouses (Markham IIRC) I've got a gondola load of steam loco scrap, I never imagined it would offend anyone...... Jeff White Alma, IL
On 9/30/2017 1:28 PM,
thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:
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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo (Steam Loco Hulk)
thecitrusbelt@...
Yes, I know people who are offended by what they perceive is a desecration of any steam locomotive, but when it comes to a gondola scrap load, "parts is parts".
Just no cut-up diesels, please.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Location Of Reporting Marks
thecitrusbelt@...
I know that in 1909 the Master Car Builders' issued a standard requiring reporting marks to be located at left end of a car's side. But every once or so I see a photo of a car with the reporting marks on the right end, such as this example:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2713914
And while this photo was taken in 1977 (admittedly past our group's time frame) I believe the shadow keystone herald was used from about 1954 to the early 1960s, which is within our time frame.
So, was the original Master Car Builders' standard replaced or relaxed at some point?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Bob,
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I caught it, but refrained from mentioning same for fear of offending somebody. Believe it or not, it happened to me. Many years ago I did some assembly work for Grandtline, building air pumps up from several pieces. They were to be used as investments for lost wax castings on a D&RGW narrow gauge 2-8-2. I was allowed to keep any that were defective, and a lot of them lost the tiny little piston during casting or in handling/assembly. Some of the defects were glued together, weathered up and used as a gondola load. When I took this car to the club, several die-hard steam fans were really insulted and angry that I would commit such sacrilege! I still have the load, and could put it into another gondola someday. I still have a mess of the failures, and might have enough to do two cars. 😈 Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On Sep 30, 2017, at 12:24 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote: Did anyone notice the steam engine boiler in the second gondola? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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caboose casting/kits
ed_mines
Anyone have any half built/complete Ambroid/Q'craft caboose kits they'd be willing to get rid of? contact me directly. ed mines
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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo
thecitrusbelt@...
Did anyone notice the steam engine boiler in the second gondola? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves
I by gloves from Harbor Freight. They last about 2 years before the rubber falls apart. I use 200 grit aluminum oxide. Very safe to use on anything. Larger grit will work faster but can cause damage to soft materials.
I need to do some heavy maintenance on my old North Coast sandblasting booth. I need new gloves for it. Can anyone recommend good gloves and an online place to get them? Also, what blasting media is recommended for plastic and resin models?
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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo
The number looks like 604697 which would make it 687-G (1939 rebuilds from four donor lots) http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/lot-687.jpg Tim O' Is any one able to identify this NYC gondola or its Lot number? http://www.ebay.com/itm/112567520749 Regards, Robert Bogie
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Re: Side reporting marks
You catch on quickly, Tony. Perhaps you're not familiar with the "parts of speech" use of the word BUT in this case used to introduce something contrasting with what has already been mentioned. In other words, I corrected my previous statement with those examples. Tim "grammar nazi" O'Connor
Very interesting Tony, since I have a BUILDER PHOTO from July 1946 with the
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Please delete Larry Mennie's email address in your contact list
mrprksr <mrprksr@...>
please delete mrprksr@... from you contact list as Larry passed away suddenly on June 4th. thank you, Lucy Mennie
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Re: Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves
T.J. Stratton
Hello John,
I purchased a 5lb. container of Badger Aluminum Oxide Abrasive from Amazon for under $30. I'm using a Harbor Freight Blasting Cabinet and their air eraser. I have not had to replace the gloves.
TJ
TJ Stratton Maumee, OH. "Modeling the 1950's branch lines of the Michigan Central Railroad in southern Michigan" Mailto:michigancentralrr@...
From: STMFC@... on behalf of John Golden golden1014@... [STMFC]
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:15 AM To: Yahoogroups; Yahoogroups; resinfreightcars@... Subject: [STMFC] Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves Hi All,
I need to do some heavy maintenance on my old North Coast sandblasting booth. I need new gloves for it. Can anyone recommend good gloves and an online place to get them? Also, what blasting media is
recommended for plastic and resin models?
Thanks so much,
John
John Golden Albersbach, DE https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/
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Re: PFE R-40-10 reefer ice hatch detail (Holland Hatch Covers)
Larry Buell
Holland also has portable flash butt electrical welders for fabrication of continuous welder rail from stick rail. Not sure when the portable welders were developed. L. A. Buell
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Re: NYC Steel Gondola photo
Benjamin Hom
Robert Bogie asked: "Is any one able to identify this NYC gondola or its Lot number?" http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-NYC-New-York-Central-Freight-Hopper-Cars-Vintage-Railroad-Negative-/112567520749?hash=item1a358c0ded:g:BaQAAOSwUaNZvvF2 Tough to pin this one down - the car number is barely legible, and a quick partial search at Terry Link's site of "601" as the first three numbers of the car series didn't turn up a match. A search of "604" was more productive and turned up NYC 604000-604499, Lot 681-G, but these cars had Murphy ends, which the car in the photo does not. The pattern of the side posts (10 posts, center two and third in from the ends extend below the car side) is the same. It's possible that the end facing the camera was repaired after a wreck or replaced during the rebuilding, but this is speculation. I'm hesitant to assign 100% confidence based on a clearance diagram with no supporting photograph, so I'm open to alternated IDs. Ben Hom
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Re: Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves
Bill Welch
Harbor Freight mail order for the gloves. For only etching the styrene or resin surfaces I use Baking Soda.
Bill Welch
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Re: Facebook posting of 192 Life Pictures 1943 US Army Rail Move
John Barry
But it also explains why I've obtained three and have three more on order for my 1944 Santa Fe layout. One will be a NWP car. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Facebook posting of 192 Life Pictures 1943 US Army Rail Move John LOL - that reminds me of Woody Allen's "Sleeper" where they try to clone their great leader from his nose, the only remnant they have of him. I've got the kits right here in front of me, the -5/8/9 and the -10/12. They will both be in company MofW service. Really nice kits! Tim O'Connor One of the new Owl Mt flats has a prototype here: https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/12356665_1690862387826417_5537730881631793797_o.jpg?oh=d43479280dd7265618214baab0becfa0&oe=5A3D9402
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Re: Placards
RICH CHAPIN
This is from the General Notice Section of the 1912 regs. It ID's sequence
of the Regs, back to the 1909 law Rich Chapin From: Richard W. Chapin [mailto:rwc27q@...] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 5:40 AM To: 'STMFC@...' <STMFC@...> Subject: Re: Placards Bob, et al., Copy of cover from first ICC Regulations; Bureau of Explosives publication[s] may have preceded but this earliest Federal regulation I know of. ICC was authorized to use Bureau of Explosive for setting its regs, not sure which if these early laws did that. My copy from the U of Minnesota via a google Rich Chapin
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Re: Placards
RICH CHAPIN
Bob, et al.,
Copy of cover from first ICC Regulations; Bureau of Explosives publication[s] may have preceded but this earliest Federal regulation I know of. ICC was authorized to use Bureau of Explosive for setting its regs, not sure which if these early laws did that. My copy from the U of Minnesota via a google Rich Chapin
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Recommendations on Blasting Media and Gloves
golden1014
Hi All, I need to do some heavy maintenance on my old North Coast sandblasting booth. I need new gloves for it. Can anyone recommend good gloves and an online place to get them? Also, what blasting media is recommended for plastic and resin models? Thanks so much, John John Golden Albersbach, DE https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/
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NYC Steel Gondola photo
robertb@smartchat.net.au
Is any one able to identify this NYC gondola or its Lot number?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-NYC-New-York-Central-Freight-Hopper-Cars-Vintage-Railroad-Negative-/112567520749?hash=item1a358c0ded:g:BaQAAOSwUaNZvvF2 Regards, Robert Bogie
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