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Re: Drop Grab Irons
Gary McMills
I like the Tichy grab irons, Gary McMills
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Re: 1932 ARA flat panel roof detail shot ?
Benjamin Scanlon
Dear Dennis
A 'joggle'... I will remember that. And thank you for the pics and diagrams. I did another TT test with a rivet rolling tool as this presses more heavily and leaves a more pronounced joggle. This and a scored line in the direction of the lapping gets closer to the 'Sunshine' effect. Think Sunshine's version looks better than Atlas' 1932 car. On the Red Caboose roof, I think it's one for an X29 ; the S-CL Modeler article shows one Jim Six changed details for, in order to model an SAL 1932 ARA car. It and the Sunshine have the 'low slung' look the Atlas car doesn't seem to quite capture. Ben Scanlon
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could these pass as North American ladles?
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.56.aspx
I have found only one image of a steel mill ladle in the USA, and it's an enormous thing loaded on a depressed center flat Tim O'
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Re: Spray bomb painting photos
Mark Vinski
Different nozzles are available that may make spray cans more suited to model painting. http://artprimo.com/catalog/art_primo_caps-101 Mark Vinski
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FS: Four Freight Cars
Michael Gross
I am offering four steam-era freight cars:
Branchline Trains Blueprint Series 1001 50’ AAR Single Door Boxcar, Santa Fe Car #17288 BX-69 Class, Built 1955 Mineral Brown, “El Capitan” $16.00 KIT
Intermountain 45808-01 10’6” High AAR Boxcar, C&NW #82658, “Overland Route/Route of the 400” $23.00 RTR
Intermountain/Longs Drug ATSF #34723 RR-27 Class “Grand Canyon” with curved map $20.00 KIT
Intermountain 41304-10 ACF Type 27 Riveted 8000 Gallon Tank Car, Shippers Car Line SHPX #9774 $15.00 KIT Prices do not include your choice of shipping from my zip code to yours. I accept check, money order or PayPal friends and family. If interested, please reply off-list to ActorMichaelGross AT gmail DOT com. Many thanks! Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: 1950's Era Loads Question
Steve SANDIFER
The D7 came from 1938. Great looking potential loads.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:26 PM To: stmfc@... Subject: [STMFC] 1950's Era Loads Question
Hi,
I recently saw two very nice loads for flat cars from a firm called Reyaulds Euro Imports. I am not an expert on bulldozers or electrical transformers, so can anyone tell if these are appropriate for the early-mid 1950’s era? Here are the links.
Transformer:
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.57.aspx
D7 Bulldozer:
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.55.aspx
Thanks.
William E. Botkin Centennial, CO
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Re: Steel Mill gons
rwitt_2000
Bill and all,
This is where we miss freight car experts like Larry Klein taken too soon ... Bob Witt
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Re: FS: Plano boxcar and covered hopper roofwalks
monon@...
All of the roofwalks are sold pending payment. Thanks for looking!
Sam Reynolds
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Re: 1950's Era Loads Question
Those are beautiful loads! Especially the D-7. I agree with Bruce, the transformer is somewhat European looking and most were not shipped with the heat fins in place - they were usually in a separate crate or in a separate load. Tim O'
I recently saw two very nice loads for flat cars from a firm called Reyaulds Euro Imports. I am not an expert on bulldozers or electrical transformers, so can anyone tell if these are appropriate for the early-mid 1950�s era? Here are the links.
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Re: Steel Mill gons
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
LTRR 2000-2199 were built 1-39. There is a builder's photo of 2099 on page 221 of the 1940 CBC (billboard lettering, no herald). This is reprinted in Gregg’s TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA No. 5, GONDOLAS AND HOPPERS FROM THE 1940 CAR BUILDERS’ CYCLOPEDIA. My 1958 ORER lists 197 cars. Interestingly, the car numbers are called out in blocks, the breaks showing which three cars are missing from the original 200. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: FS: Walthers Proto National B-1 trucks
monon@...
The National B-1 trucks are sold pending payment. Thanks for looking.
Sam Reynolds
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Re: 1950's Era Loads Question
William,
While offered by Reynolds, the models are actually produced by a Dutch company, Artitec, that offers a number of HO scale resin vehicles and other things. These can be obtained from Artitec as built up models or kits.
The transformer is potentially too modern for early 1950s. Around that time, transformers moved from rounded construction to squared edges. There may be other details that would further place the age of the transformer.
The D7 is era appropriate. Artitec offers this dozer with both the nose mounted cable lift seen in the link you supplied as well as an overhead framework style used by the US military in WWII.
The actual blocking looks pretty accurate on both loads although I might add additional blocking to make it accurate for an earlier period.
Regards, Bruce Bruce Smith Auburn, AL
From: STMFC@... on behalf of 'William Botkin' webotkin@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:25 PM To: stmfc@... Subject: [STMFC] 1950's Era Loads Question Hi,
I recently saw two very nice loads for flat cars from a firm called Reyaulds Euro Imports. I am not an expert on bulldozers or electrical transformers, so can anyone tell if these are appropriate for the early-mid 1950’s era? Here are the links.
Transformer:
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.57.aspx
D7 Bulldozer:
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.55.aspx
Thanks.
William E. Botkin Centennial, CO
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1950's Era Loads Question
webotkin
Hi,
I recently saw two very nice loads for flat cars from a firm called Reyaulds Euro Imports. I am not an expert on bulldozers or electrical transformers, so can anyone tell if these are appropriate for the early-mid 1950’s era? Here are the links.
Transformer:
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.57.aspx
D7 Bulldozer:
https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Artitec/487.801.55.aspx
Thanks.
William E. Botkin Centennial, CO
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Re: 1932 ARA flat panel roof detail shot ?
Red Caboose made a 1932 ARA roof?
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I have long thought that Sunshine Model version of this roof better looking that the Red Caboose version as Sunshine captured the "joggle" and had some wavyness too.
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Re: Drop Grab Irons
Bryian Sones
I only upgrade hoppers with brass wire. Drop grab or straight grab? It depends on the prototype. I've been doing it since the Kato and Bowser 70 ton ACF covered hoppers first hit the market many years ago. I've upgraded them both with successful results however, for me the Kato is the only one worth upgrading between the two. It's much easier to work with. The plastic is very delicate with the Bowser. You need a sharp bit at all times and wood support behind the area you are drilling. Starter holes are a good idea to reduce the chance of cracking. If you are lucky or very skilled you can complete one without any breakage but you must be careful and patient. The Kat is much more forgiving. The plastic is softer and easier to work with. When finished the Kato can look as good as the Intermountain. Its almost hard to distinguish which is which. If you are modeling U.P. hoppers accurately. The Intermountain, Kato and the Bowser all need some modifications to the latch detail. I redo the whole latch details with brass wire but that's just me. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta CA
On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 8:55 AM, "Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]" wrote: I agree with Ben - very low BENEFIT/WORK ratio for replacing the Bowser grabirons on their covered hoppers. They'll never look as good as Intermountain kits but for the price and amount of effort, they look just fine. Tim O'Connor Honestly? There aren't any on the aftermarket. Besides, think of all those broken Intermountain/Branchline/Proto 2000/etc. grabs and detail parts down at the club - I've never been satisfied with either durability or appearance of drop grabs on higher end styrene kits. You'd be better off keeping the Bowser parts as-is, which are actually quite nice.
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Re: Steel Mill gons
Bill
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Indeed. The hopper cars are especially desired by western modelers as well as eastern modelers. They were operated by Carbon County, B&LE, and Union railroads at least - very distinctive in appearance, and all equipped with double clasp trucks! Talk about signature freight cars! :-) Tim O'Connor
These Steel Company owned railroads and their cars would make a great RPM presentation.
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Re: Drop Grab Irons
Or use brass wire ones.
Thanks! -- Brian Ehni From: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:09 AM To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Drop Grab Irons Lester Breuer asked: "When starting a Bowser covered hopper which entails removing molded on drop grab irons and installing new ones. I thought maybe plastic rather than wire. We have excellent Kadee bracket grab irons. What are choices, if any for plastic, drop grab irons?" Honestly? There aren't any on the aftermarket. Besides, think of all those broken Intermountain/Branchline/Proto 2000/etc. grabs and detail parts down at the club - I've never been satisfied with either durability or appearance of drop grabs on higher end styrene kits. You'd be better off keeping the Bowser parts as-is, which are actually quite nice. Ben Hom
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Re: 1932 ARA flat panel roof detail shot ?
Bill Welch
I have long thought that Sunshine Model version of this roof better looking that the Red Caboose version as Sunshine captured the "joggle" and had some wavyness too.
Bill Welch
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Re: Steel Mill gons
Bill Welch
These Steel Company owned railroads and their cars would make a great RPM presentation.
Bill Welch
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Steel Mill gons
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Gang;
To add: One 20-car group of cascaded 50'6" IL "1439" (cu ft) gons from the URR (I suspect) went to the Aliquippa & Southern sometime after 1953. Another I can't figure out is a small group built for B&LE in groups 14101-14150, 14201-14210, and 14251-14299, that comes and goes over time. The last small survivors in this group ended up in regular service in the first case, and coil service in the latter 2 cases, by the early sixties. I suspect, like in URR's case, they were rebuilding the u/f and parts as a new series, during the fifties. There are many more classes on B&LE and URR than these, and we've hardly scratched the surface. The story on BS, EJ&E, N&SS, and Y&N have also only been nicked (like Y&N 1300-1449, purchased by B&LE, rebuilt, then leased back to Y&N and sub-leased to URR) are stories yet to be told. Elden Gatwood
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