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Re: Decals and Future?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

WRT Archer Decals, I think part of the benefit is
that they are then truly adhered to the model. No
accidental flicking them off. The video I
watched, some guy working on some Star Wars model,
was using a decal that must have been much thicker
and more durable than most model RR decals, as he
was kind of scrubbing it and pushing it into
recesses before finally using some Solvaset on it.
He emphasized kind of squeegee-ing out as much
Future from under the decal as possible. OTOH, he
rather slathered it on before applying the decals,
so much so that he wiped it off with a paper towel
so it wouldn't dry as a lumpy surface!



I was not impressed with his technique!



I think if I were to try this with a RR decal, it
would be a very thin painted-on "puddle" of
Future, and using decals I am pretty sure are
durable.



Schuyler


That sounds intriguing... I have used Future on
models to hide scratches and
it lays down beautifully (self leveling) and very
thinly so I can see how a spot
application would provide a good base for a decal
on a non-glossy surface.

Tim O'




I looked at some videos that are linked from the
Archer Fine Transfers site earlier tonight. They
talk about floating decals on a "puddle" of
Future. That's a new idea on me, but they say it
eliminates silvering and bubbles.

Has anybody on this list tried this?

Schuyler

Re: Decals and Future?

Tim O'Connor
 


That sounds intriguing... I have used Future on models to hide scratches and
it lays down beautifully (self leveling) and very thinly so I can see how a spot
application would provide a good base for a decal on a non-glossy surface.

Tim O'



I looked at some videos that are linked from the Archer Fine Transfers site earlier tonight.  They talk about floating decals on a �puddle� of Future.  That�s a new idea on me, but they say it eliminates silvering and bubbles.
 
Has anybody on this list tried this?
 
Schuyler

Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

Ted Culotta
 

Actually not out of print. I just needed to get another case from storage and I did. I have more of it than I'll ever need....

Decals and Future?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I looked at some videos that are linked from the Archer Fine Transfers site earlier tonight.  They talk about floating decals on a “puddle” of Future.  That’s a new idea on me, but they say it eliminates silvering and bubbles.

 

Has anybody on this list tried this?

 

Schuyler

 

Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

StephenK
 

Trix did not fix the problem.   I have a string of 12 cars, mostly Marklin and a few Trix, and they all have solid plates where there should be open air.   I did not change these, but mounted Kadee coupler boxes to the plates and let it go.   I added uncoupling levers and changed the numbers.   After weathering, the train looks good.   I also did this to one NP car since, 1) my LHS had one and 2) NP had these cars.   I also do not know if any other road bought these, but they are correct for UP and NP.   Marklin/Trix has, of course, painted these for NYC, among others, but I am sure these are foobies.

As for the Atlas cars, the early runs had gaps between the coupler boxes and the bolsters, which looked pretty bad.  Later runs had this problem fixed.  If you have the early models, it is still a reasonably easy fix--just cut some styrene to fit.


Steve Kay

Reprints of out of stock Focus on Freight Cars Volumes 5, 6, 7, and 9

Ted Culotta
 

I am reprinting four volumes of Focus on Freight Cars that have been out of stock. I also have several new decal sets for Steam Era freight cars (with more coming). More details at the Speedwitch site.Thank you.

Cheers,
Ted

Re: And the weight of the cast truck is? Bolster? (was Weight Of A Freight Car Wheel?)

Dave Nelson
 

Apologies for the late reply but thank you very much!

 

Dave Nelson

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Dave Nelson] wrote:



 

Thank you all for the thoughts on the weight of a cast wheel. 

 What is the weight of a truck side frame?

 A truck bolster?

 

  Dave, you might enjoy my article in _Model Railroad Hobbyist_ in the issue for September 2016 (download or read on line, for free, any time, at their website, www.mrhmag.com ). You will find all this discussed there. Bolsters weighed 1000 pounds or more, as did side frames, and then add the spring planks (if any), spring packages, and brake linkage. Most freight trucks in the transition era weighed between 12,000 and 14,000 pounds.

 

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Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

Mikebrock
 

Ben Hom writes:

 

“Johannes Markwart asked:

"I have two HO ATLAS 70ton hart ballast cars I want to complete before giving them away for weathering. I have searched and found a lot of postings mentioning their main flaws - the missing center sill and bolsters - but I did not find photos of such work. Maybe the postings are too old and the pics gone? Does anyone have a pic of an upgraded model for me? I don't intend to make the cars 99%ers, just want to add the center sill and bolsters."

 

IIRC, Mike Brock detailed these upgrades in Prototype Railroad Modeling Vol 1 from Speedwitch Media.  It's out of print, but another list member might be able to pull it to check before I get home from the office today.

http://speedwitchmedia.com/product/prototype-railroad-modeling-volume-one/

 

That is the source of the article I wrote on modifying the Atlas 70 ton  ballast car [ HK-70-1 ]…”A Tale of Two Hoppers” which also includes the modifications to the Marklin version of the UP H-70-1 70 ton UP 3 bay hopper car. The H-70-1 is an important car also for UP modelers and I was amazed when Marklin produced these rather rare cars [ I’m not sure if Trix “fixed” the problem with these models when and if they produced them ]. NP is the only RR I know with similar cars ].

 

The problem with the H-70-1 is very different from that with the HK-70-1. The coupler looks like it should be taken to an open window on a clear night and thrown  toward the Andromeda Galaxy from where it no doubt came. Also the area above the coupler is a solid plastic sheet on the model which needs to be replaced by L shaped beams in an “open” space..

 

When I find photos I’ll send them to any interested parties.

 

Mike Brock

 

 

Re: bananas (was RE: URTX and MILW...)

RICH CHAPIN
 

The IC HS “Green Diamond” issue for Apr 1997 has feature on banana traffic

 

Rich Chapin

Re: Owl Mountain

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Charles you are correct.

Paul 


On 15 Oct 2017, at 02:32, ceth512@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Paul,  I have just began the building of TEN of those beautiful kits.   I have to agree that they are wonderful.  A car that us SP/TNO fans have longed for a long time.

Charles Etheredge
Austin, Texas

Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

Tim O'Connor
 

Yes the models were revised.

When I saw the article about upgrading the subject cars I thought great. I had been looking for my two cars for a couple of years, I knew they were under the layout somewhere. I finally found them and lo and behold they had bolsters and center sills. Apparently Atlas discovered their mistake or maybe because they were Q cars. Walter Ohrnell

Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

Walter
 

When I saw the article about upgrading the subject cars I thought great. I had been looking for my two cars for a couple of years, I knew they were under the layout
somewhere. I finally found them and lo and behold they had bolsters and center sills. Apparently Atlas discovered their mistake or maybe because they were “Q” cars.

Walter Ohrnell

Re: Owl Mountain

Charles Etheredge
 

Paul,  I have just began the building of TEN of those beautiful kits.   I have to agree that they are wonderful.  A car that us SP/TNO fans have longed for a long time.

Charles Etheredge
Austin, Texas

Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

Michael Gross
 

Nice work from Ted York on those ballast cars…

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA





Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

James SANDIFER
 

Check out what Ted York did:

http://www.tedyorkphotography.com/modeling-tips

 

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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Subject: [STMFC] pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

 

 

Hello friends,

at first I would like to thank everyone who did reply to my GN hopper/ gondola question several weeks ago.

I have two H0 ATLAS 70ton hart ballast cars I want to complete before giving them away for weathering. I have searched and found a lot of postings mentioning their main flaws - the missing center sill and bolsters - but I did not find photos of such work. Maybe the postings are too old and the pics gone? Does anyone have a pic of an upgraded model for me? I don't intend to make the cars 99%ers, just want to add the center sill and bolsters.

Many thanks

Johannes

Owl Mountain

Paul Doggett <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

I have just finished an Owl mountain SP F50-10 flat probably one of the best kits I have had the pleasure of building.

Paul Doggett UK 🇬🇧
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Re: bananas (was RE: URTX and MILW...)

George Courtney
 

Not sure. It was from Ray Breyer's list but he was speaking to orginating I believe. 

George Courtney

bananas (was RE: URTX and MILW...)

Tim O'Connor
 

I think it would be a very large share - 75% or more.

Ripe strawberries were a seasonal cargo from Louisiana (traveling in express reefers)
Probably other seasonal fruits in there too - melons, peaches... But bananas grow the
year round.

Is that 31,000 for originated loads, or total loads?

Tim O'Connor

Just a quick look at your 1925 showed around 31,000 fresh fruit loads for the Illnois Central.
Anyone know how much bannas made up that number? Just curious.
George Courtney

Re: URTX and MILW, M&StL, SOO, C G W leased reefers: A Pool Arrangement?

George Courtney
 

Just a quick look at your 1925 showed around 31,000 fresh fruit loads for the Illnois Central.  Anyone know how much bannas made up that number?  Just curious.

George Courtney

Re: pics of upgraded ATLAS 70ton hart ballast car?

vapeurchapelon
 

And now again to the group (sorry Tim for the dounle post):
 
Tim, Ben, Bill,
 
MANY thanks for your quick and complete help! Now I have everything I need :-)
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
 
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Johannes Markwart asked:
"I have two HO ATLAS 70ton hart ballast cars I want to complete before giving them away for weathering. I have searched and found a lot of postings mentioning their main flaws - the missing center sill and bolsters - but I did not find photos of such work. Maybe the postings are too old and the pics gone? Does anyone have a pic of an upgraded model for me? I don't intend to make the cars 99%ers, just want to add the center sill and bolsters."
 
IIRC, Mike Brock detailed these upgrades in Prototype Railroad Modeling Vol 1 from Speedwitch Media.  It's out of print, but another list member might be able to pull it to check before I get home from the office today.
 
 
Ben Hom