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Re: USRA rebuild with a Hutchins end?

Ian Cranstone
 

To complete the ORER service history of the TP&W 1301 series provided by Eric Lombard:

not listed Jan. 1962
Apr. 1962 — series 1301-1308, 8 cars
Jul. 1962 to Oct. 1963 — series 1301-1312, 12 cars
Jan. 1964 to Apr. 1965 — series 1301-1349, 16 cars
Jul. 1965 — series 1301-1349, 15 cars
Oct. 1965 to Apr. 1966 — series 1301-1349, 13 cars
Jul. 1966 — series 1301-1349, 11 cars
Oct. 1966 — series 1301, 1349, 9 cars
Jan. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 7 cars
Apr. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 6 cars
Jul. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 4 cars
Oct. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 5 cars
Jan. 1968 to Oct. 1969 — series 1301-1349, 4 cars
Jan. 1970 -- series 1301-1308, 3 cars
Apr. 1970 — series 1301-1303, 2 cars
Jul. 1970 to Oct. 1970 — series 1301 & 1303, 2 cars
Jan. 1971 to Jul. 1971 — series 1301, 1 car
No longer listed Oct. 1971

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

lamontc@...

http://freightcars.nakina.net


Re: Reverse Creco doors

al_brown03
 

Hi Jared,

A search of the list for "reverse Creco" reveals that the term has been used for several different doors. What car are you modelling?

Best regards,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Reverse Creco doors

Jared Harper
 

Does anyone make a reverse Creco door in HO?


Jared Harper

Athens, GA


Re: Freight Car Repair Scene: Some Follow-Up

Dave Sarther
 

As usual the CNWHS Modeler has some pertinent info about modeling projects of interest based on historical info and photos in their current issue. The most current issue has a photo of a RIP scene using jacks under cars being repaired and a hoist used to move wheel sets around.
 
 
The article on RIP Tracks with a few interesting photos is of interest for me especially as it relates to the Delano photo we were discussing and a few follow-up questions I had that were answered by STMF members..  One photo featuring jacks being used as seen in the Delano photo is found on p.29 and another featuring a three legged hoist used to move wheel sets from a storage track to the RIP track is found on p. 34.
 
Enjoy,  Dave S.   Tucson, AZ


Re: USRA rebuild with a Hutchins end?

Eric Lombard
 

As happens, happily, when we play "what's my line" on this site.... it was just pointed out to me that a photo of TP&W 1349 in Richard Hendrickson's ATSF "Furniture and Automobile Box Cars", p79, is an Fe-20! Fe-20 are 50 ft, double-door cars with mix and match ends. The "battleship" underframes are 50 years old by 1963. My take on this is that the 12 cars in TP&W 1301-1312 are ex NKP cars and that the 4 added in 1963 are ex ATSF 9000-9199 or its renumbers to ATSF 61300-61493. The reweigh date on TP&W 1349 appears to be 6-1963. So here is a revised service abstract to accommodate this new information. A handful of Fe-20 in ATSF 61300-61493, by the way, make it past 1969 when the underframes become 60 years old.

TP&W 1301-1349
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1962(1)     ...  Not listed in ORER.
1962    12  RENO out of NKP 27000-27914.
1962(7)    12  As 1301-1312. Indicated as addition in ORER.
1963(1)    12
1963          Underframes are 40 years old.
1963[6]           4? RENO to TP&W 1301-1349 out of either or both:
ATSF 9000-9199, original Fe-20
ATSF 61300-61493, renumbered Fe-20.
Underframes of these cars are over 50 years old at this date.
1963(10)    12
1964(7)    16  In combined 1301-1349. The ex ATSF cars are not distinguished
          and the dimensions of 1301-1312 are retained in the listing (as the
          most restrictive?)
1966(1)    13
1967(1)       7
1968(1)      4
1969(1)      4
1970(1)      3  As 1301-1308 (All ex ATSF Fe-20 gone by this date).
1970(7)      2  #1301, 1303.
1971(1)      1  #1301.
1971(7)      1  #1301.
1972(1)     ...  Not listed in ORER.


On-line Train Magazines are back!

Aley, Jeff A
 

Good news – TrainLife has the magazine archive back on-line!  Lots of great Steam-Era Freight Car info is contained therein.

 

https://trainlife.com/pages/the-magazine-library  

 

Personally, I like to use http://trc.trains.com/magazineindex/  to search for the issue that I want.  You have to register with Kalmbach (free) to use it.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 


Re: Car, locomotive and book sale sale

Bill McCoy
 

The sale has been a big success. If anyone wants a consolidated PDF of cars locomotives and books remaining let me know OFF LINE wpmccoy@.... I'll listen to reasonable offers and a few new items are on the book list.

Bill McCoy


Re: USRA rebuild with a Hutchins end?

Eric Lombard
 

Mornin' All...

Sorry to be coming back late... a garden wall fell on my leg on Saturday necessitating x-rays and stitches, etc.

"So ... Eric, what year the TP&W got these cars from the NKP?" Schuyler
"Did these cars have the flat panel roofs or the diagonal panel roofs?" Brent

The cars were renumbered to TP&W in 1962.
They had raised rectangular panel roofs from the NKP rebuild that began in 1946.


TP&W 1301-1349 appears to have been an aspiration fulfilled only by a third of the promise the series bounds would indicate. And all the action is after our 1960 cut off. I'll risk reproof these because these are interesting geriatric cars.

The service abstract (sorry the formatting doesn't transfer, as usual):

TP&W 1301-1349
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1962(1) ... Not listed in ORER.
1962+ RENO out of NKP 27000-27914.
1962(7) 12 As 1301-1312. Indicated as addition in ORER.
1963(1) 12
1963 Underframes are 40 years old.
1963(10) 12
1964(7) 16 In 1301-1349.
1966(1) 13
1968(1) 4
1969(1) 4
1970(1) 3 As 1301-1308.
1970(7) 2 #1301, 1303.
1971(1) 1 #1301.
1971(7) 1 #1301.
1972(1) ... Not listed in ORER.


Shameless Self Promotion for Chicagoland (Lisle) 2017 Clinic

Bill Welch
 

America’s entry into the Great War in 1917 tested the country’s railroads severely. Among the problems the nation’s refrigerator car fleet was unable to deliver their perishable loads in good condition. Into the breach stepped a scientist from the USDA that over the course of several months of hands-on research came to understand what the fundamental problems were with many of the nation’s refrigerator cars and made several recommendations to improve their ability to transport perishable commodities, resulting in what arguably can be called a Modern refrigerator car in 1920. This same scientist’s career saw contributions in food safety and refrigeration that improved the lives of millions of people to this very day. I hope you will join me for my Clinic with an interesting story from the history of railroading and science.


See you there,

Bill Welch



Re: PSEX hopper via ERIELACK list

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Also a nice image of NH boxcar NH 86860
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Re: PSEX hopper via ERIELACK list

Benjamin Hom
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-10-23-17/IMG_0833.jpg 
 
USRA HM copy from the looks of it - 7 side posts, gussets on the outermost side posts, 1880 cu ft capacity, but 1921 build date, no Andrews trucks, and no lever handbrake.


Ben Hom


PSEX hopper via ERIELACK list

Schuyler Larrabee
 


P.F.E R-40-23, R-40-10 and R-40-25

Bryian Sones
 

Hi All,

I'm looking for parts to upgrade the details on the Intermountain HO scale models. I'm modeling these cars in the mid to late 1950's.  Anyone have a good source for upgrading fan details and hatch latches? I'm looking for Photo/laser etched or 3-D printed parts for the latches. Resin or 3-D printed fans. The Hatches could use some upgrading too if anyone has a more preferred replacement that is more detailed and closer to scale. 


Thanks,

Bryian Sones 
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta CA

 


Re: Smaller Chain

Charles
 

It's also available from a U.S. ship model online retailer:
SM-7003



$5.00
http://www.floatingdrydock.com/more.htm#HAWK%20DECALS
scroll down about 2/3 of the page or do a "find" on the page for "chain"

I ordered this a few years ago — it's good stuff.
Charley Hepperle




From: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:33 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Smaller Chain

 
Through a post on Modeling Facebook page I learned of a source of chain that is smaller than I have been using—40 links per inch. This link is for chain that is 50 links per inch: http://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Silberkette-Rundankerkette-Anker-rund-925er-Silber-Starke-Lange-wahlbar-/231094720901?var&hash=item7b76506f09

Next here is a link to a screen grab photo showing the page translated into English with length and size of chain to be ordered: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0h1nirno0vih3lt/Source%20for%2050%20links%20per%20inch%20chain.png?dl=0

Bill Welch




Re: Decals for Sunshine CB&Q XM-31

Nelson Moyer
 

Yes, this set will work for the single-sheathed cars up to and including the XM-31. You’ll probably have to piece decals for the road number and maybe some of the data. Both styles of Everywhere West are included.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:58 AM
To: yahoogroups <stmfc@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Decals for Sunshine CB&Q XM-31

 

 

Hi Gents,

 

I need to repaint an old Sunshine CB&Q XM-31 single-sheathed box car.  Does anyone know if the Microscale decal set--which includes some decals that appear correct--will fit on the Sunshine model?

 

 

Thank you,

 

John Golden
Albersbach, DE


Re: SRHA SR Freight Car Spec and Card List

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Ike


On Oct 23, 2017, at 10:32 AM, geichelberger@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

All:

Pardon me posting this on three groups. I realize there will be some overlap so some people will see this more than once.

I have uploaded two folders to Google Drive. They are Southern Railway freight car Specification F-68 issued February 12, 1914 for several series of 36 ft steel underframe ventilated box cars Card List (drawing indexes) F-36 for one series of cars covered by that spec.

The Southern Railway Historical Association archives contain scans of more than 200 freight car Specs and about 225 “Card Records”. The passenger car “P” specs and P-card lists are still a long way from being scanned but that work is underway. (There are 1,867 items in the F-Card scan files, the passenger equipment is slightly smaller. I’d estimate more than 10,000 freight and passenger drawings are now scanned, a twenty-year project!)

As time and resources permit, and we conclude our lawsuit against the Kennesaw museum, in 2018 SRHA will make copies of this material, plus most of the drawings listed in the F-Cards. Until then, could other historical groups and individuals let eveyone know if similar examples from other roads exist?

If there are any Southern Railway historians that are interested in this kind of material, please consider joining SRHA and helping organize and research our archives.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-3zlog4iNWXT1lFRzJtS2ZXWHM?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-3zlog4iNWXdVZtbk5UMVc0Ym8?usp=sharing

Ike
George Eichelberger

PS The tentative plan is for SRHA to present a clinic at the next CCB RPM on “Railroad Equipment Drawings” with an emphasis on the Southern and Central of Georgia.


Smaller Chain

Bill Welch
 

Through a post on Modeling Facebook page I learned of a source of chain that is smaller than I have been using—40 links per inch. This link is for chain that is 50 links per inch: http://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Silberkette-Rundankerkette-Anker-rund-925er-Silber-Starke-Lange-wahlbar-/231094720901?var&hash=item7b76506f09


Next here is a link to a screen grab photo showing the page translated into English with length and size of chain to be ordered: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0h1nirno0vih3lt/Source%20for%2050%20links%20per%20inch%20chain.png?dl=0

Bill Welch



SRHA SR Freight Car Spec and Card List

George Eichelberger
 

All:

Pardon me posting this on three groups. I realize there will be some overlap so some people will see this more than once.

I have uploaded two folders to Google Drive. They are Southern Railway freight car Specification F-68 issued February 12, 1914 for several series of 36 ft steel underframe ventilated box cars Card List (drawing indexes) F-36 for one series of cars covered by that spec.

The Southern Railway Historical Association archives contain scans of more than 200 freight car Specs and about 225 “Card Records”. The passenger car “P” specs and P-card lists are still a long way from being scanned but that work is underway. (There are 1,867 items in the F-Card scan files, the passenger equipment is slightly smaller. I’d estimate more than 10,000 freight and passenger drawings are now scanned, a twenty-year project!)

As time and resources permit, and we conclude our lawsuit against the Kennesaw museum, in 2018 SRHA will make copies of this material, plus most of the drawings listed in the F-Cards. Until then, could other historical groups and individuals let eveyone know if similar examples from other roads exist?

If there are any Southern Railway historians that are interested in this kind of material, please consider joining SRHA and helping organize and research our archives.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-3zlog4iNWXT1lFRzJtS2ZXWHM?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-3zlog4iNWXdVZtbk5UMVc0Ym8?usp=sharing

Ike
George Eichelberger

PS The tentative plan is for SRHA to present a clinic at the next CCB RPM on “Railroad Equipment Drawings” with an emphasis on the Southern and Central of Georgia.


Re: Search Function Deterioration

Bruce Smith
 

Bob,

While complaining about Yehaw is not really on topic, let me answer here because your post contains some incorrect statements.

1) I have not noticed any change in the search engine.  It’s not the best and never has been, but it isn’t any worse.

2) The Conversations search is still there and just as it has been for some time, it is context dependent.  If you are on your overall groups page and not on any specific group, you cannot search Conversations (that makes sense, since Yehaw has no idea what group you want). Instead, the box says “Search Groups”.  If you enter the home page of one of your groups, the box changes to “Search Conversations”. If you click on “Photos” or “Files”, then the box says “Search Photos” or “Search Files” respectively. If you need to get back to searching conversations, just click on the “Conversations” link and voila! the search now say "Search Conversations” again ;)

So no, I do not believe that there have been any significant changes in Yehaw in the past few months (other than maybe searches are faster… but that could be my new computer!)

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~smithbf/

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."



On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:09 AM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
Has anyone noticed the deterioration of the search function on Yahoo Groups? Over the past six or more months some topics and key words that appeared here cannot be found. And recently the search box for Conversations has been eliminated.
These changes make research more and more difficult, obviously. Does anyone have a work-around they can suggest?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Decals for Sunshine CB&Q XM-31

golden1014
 

Hi Gents,

I need to repaint an old Sunshine CB&Q XM-31 single-sheathed box car.  Does anyone know if the Microscale decal set--which includes some decals that appear correct--will fit on the Sunshine model?


Thank you,
 
John Golden
Albersbach, DE

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