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Re: On-line Train Magazines are back!

Chris Sawicki
 

Sam- press "control P", it should load and get you a print dialogue screen where you can specify the range of pages you want printed. (on a Windows PC)

Chris Sawicki


On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:05 PM, "monon@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


 
I too find the Trainlife magazine archive to be a valuable resource for locating much needed articles. Any guidance from others on the list who use the archive on how to easily print a specific article. I've yet to figure out how to do this now that the archive has been updated.

Sam Reynolds



Re: On-line Train Magazines are back!

Sam Reynolds
 

I too find the Trainlife magazine archive to be a valuable resource for locating much needed articles. Any guidance from others on the list who use the archive on how to easily print a specific article. I've yet to figure out how to do this now that the archive has been updated.

Sam Reynolds


Re: No such thing... Reverse Creco doors

Ted Culotta
 

This one is a big bugaboo for me. There is no such thing as a reverse Creco door. Call it a Carbuilder's door, please. The doors used on the CGW ARA box cars and on some of the B&M/MTC ARA-design box cars (single sheathed and double sheathed [steel]) are both what people typically are referring to when using that term that I won't repeat.

Cheers,
Ted


Re: Shameless Self Promotion for Chicagoland (Lisle) 2017 Clinic

John Hile
 

Sounds interesting!


Re: B&M steel sheathed doors

Dave Parker
 

All:

I am not sure the 1941 date is accurate for the photo in the Miriam Foster book.  The car in question has the minuteman herald, which places it as 1946+.  And as Thorsten said, it could be a 72000-series car that was delivered with Youngstown doors.

I have a photo of 71785 with what looks like a 1948 reweigh and the minuteman herald; it still has the unique 3-panel doors.

In RPCyc 18 (p. 36), there is a photo of 71276 with a reweigh date of 12-49, and the Youngstown doors.

I think all other examples of the replacement doors that I have seen are from the 1950s or 60s.  Most of these show cars that were renumbered into 69700 to 70987 starting in late 1954.  After this renumbering, I don't think one can easily tell the difference between the 71000- and 72000-series cars, but the build dates -- where legible -- do allow such differentiation.

If I were modeling 1943, I would apply the 3-panel doors to any car in the 71000 series.

BTW, I checked the PDS for the Sunshine 91.x kits.  Martin did not provide any dates for the replacement of the doors on the 71000-series cars.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:05 PM, "'Don Burn' burn@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I could not read the number.

Don Burn

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Don,

is the car number legible?

Cars in the 72000 series are almost lookalikes and were built with Youngstown doors.

Thorsten

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There is a photo on page 81 of Marium Foster's Boston and Maine Railroad that shows one of the cars with the Youngstown door in 1941.

Don Burn

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Subject: [STMFC] B&M steel sheathed doors

Jared asked about the three panel steel sheathed wood doors on B&M XM-1 box cars.
Now my question. These cars were built in 29-30 - Jared models 43 – oldest photo date with Youngstown replacement doors in the RPM Cyc is 49. Does anyone know when the doors were replaced?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa




Re: NKP box cars

Larry Smith
 

NKP was part of the Van Swearigen group when the cars were built and the standard paint scheme for the cars were black ends and roof, just like the C&O.  Yes the Viking roof is correct as well.


Larry Smith


Re: B&M steel sheathed doors

Don Burn
 

I could not read the number.

Don Burn

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Don,

is the car number legible?

Cars in the 72000 series are almost lookalikes and were built with Youngstown doors.

Thorsten



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There is a photo on page 81 of Marium Foster's Boston and Maine Railroad that shows one of the cars with the Youngstown door in 1941.

Don Burn

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Subject: [STMFC] B&M steel sheathed doors

Jared asked about the three panel steel sheathed wood doors on B&M XM-1 box cars.
Now my question. These cars were built in 29-30 - Jared models 43 – oldest photo date with Youngstown replacement doors in the RPM Cyc is 49. Does anyone know when the doors were replaced?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


NKP box cars

anthony wagner
 

I recently acquired a 1937 AAR Intermountain box car decorated for NKP. I have two questions. First were the ends and roof painted black when the cars were built or repainted, and secondly when did the initials NYC&StL dissappear from the car sides. The car is numbered 15153 built in 1936 and has aDes Plaines Hobbies Viking roof which I believe is correct. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tony Wagner


Re: B&M steel sheathed doors

Thorsten Petschallies
 

Don,

is the car number legible?

Cars in the 72000 series are almost lookalikes and were built with Youngstown doors.

Thorsten

 

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There is a photo on page 81 of Marium Foster's Boston and Maine Railroad that shows one of the cars with the Youngstown door in 1941.

Don Burn

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 3:25 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] B&M steel sheathed doors

Jared asked about the three panel steel sheathed wood doors on B&M XM-1 box cars.
Now my question. These cars were built in 29-30 - Jared models 43 – oldest photo date with Youngstown replacement doors in the RPM Cyc is 49. Does anyone know when the doors were replaced?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: B&M steel sheathed doors

Don Burn
 

There is a photo on page 81 of Marium Foster's Boston and Maine Railroad that shows one of the cars with the Youngstown door in 1941.

Don Burn

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Jared asked about the three panel steel sheathed wood doors on B&M XM-1 box cars.
Now my question. These cars were built in 29-30 - Jared models 43 – oldest photo date with Youngstown replacement doors in the RPM Cyc is 49. Does anyone know when the doors were replaced?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: B&M steel sheathed doors

Thorsten Petschallies
 

Clark,

I do have a photo of car# 71575 in my files dating from 1947 with a replacement door.

Not sure where I got this from, but I think one of Ted’s books.

Thorsten Petschallies

Hamburg, Germany

 

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Jared asked about the three panel steel sheathed wood doors on B&M XM-1 box cars.

Now my question. These cars were built in 29-30 - Jared models 43 – oldest photo date with Youngstown replacement doors in the RPM Cyc is 49. Does anyone know when the doors were replaced?

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


B&M steel sheathed doors

Clark Propst
 

Jared asked about the three panel steel sheathed wood doors on B&M XM-1 box cars.
Now my question. These cars were built in 29-30 - Jared models 43 – oldest photo date with Youngstown replacement doors in the RPM Cyc is 49. Does anyone know when the doors were replaced?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


RCW update

Eric Hansmann
 

For those headed to RPM Chicagoland, Frank Hodina has an update on Resin Car Works products in this Wednesday Workbench blog post.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/workbench-wednesday-oct-25/



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


October 28 Layout Tours

 

October 28th Layout Tours, Western New York.  For info use these internet addresses:  wnylayouttours.com  or  buffalorailroad.wixsite.com/wny-layout-tours   Some layouts are steam era, not all.  Submitted by Hugh T Guillaume


Re: Reverse Creco doors

William Dale
 

Jared,
     I don't know if this is what your after, but Bethlehem Car Works, kit bits #379 is a "reverse Creco" door used by the B&M for the X29 style of box.

Bill


Re: USRA rebuild with a Hutchins end?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

‘zakly what I wanted to know. Well past 1952 for me . . .



Schuyler



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Mornin' All...

Sorry to be coming back late... a garden wall fell on my leg on Saturday necessitating x-rays and stitches, etc.

"So ... Eric, what year the TP&W got these cars from the NKP?" Schuyler
"Did these cars have the flat panel roofs or the diagonal panel roofs?" Brent

The cars were renumbered to TP&W in 1962.
They had raised rectangular panel roofs from the NKP rebuild that began in 1946.


TP&W 1301-1349 appears to have been an aspiration fulfilled only by a third of the promise the series bounds would indicate. And all the action is after our 1960 cut off. I'll risk reproof these because these are interesting geriatric cars.

The service abstract (sorry the formatting doesn't transfer, as usual):

TP&W 1301-1349
----------------------------------------------------------
1962(1) ... Not listed in ORER.
1962+ RENO out of NKP 27000-27914.
1962(7) 12 As 1301-1312. Indicated as addition in ORER.
1963(1) 12
1963 Underframes are 40 years old.
1963(10) 12
1964(7) 16 In 1301-1349.
1966(1) 13
1968(1) 4
1969(1) 4
1970(1) 3 As 1301-1308.
1970(7) 2 #1301, 1303.
1971(1) 1 #1301.
1971(7) 1 #1301.
1972(1) ... Not listed in ORER.


Re: USRA rebuild with a Hutchins end?

Ian Cranstone
 

To complete the ORER service history of the TP&W 1301 series provided by Eric Lombard:

not listed Jan. 1962
Apr. 1962 — series 1301-1308, 8 cars
Jul. 1962 to Oct. 1963 — series 1301-1312, 12 cars
Jan. 1964 to Apr. 1965 — series 1301-1349, 16 cars
Jul. 1965 — series 1301-1349, 15 cars
Oct. 1965 to Apr. 1966 — series 1301-1349, 13 cars
Jul. 1966 — series 1301-1349, 11 cars
Oct. 1966 — series 1301, 1349, 9 cars
Jan. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 7 cars
Apr. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 6 cars
Jul. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 4 cars
Oct. 1967 — series 1301-1349, 5 cars
Jan. 1968 to Oct. 1969 — series 1301-1349, 4 cars
Jan. 1970 -- series 1301-1308, 3 cars
Apr. 1970 — series 1301-1303, 2 cars
Jul. 1970 to Oct. 1970 — series 1301 & 1303, 2 cars
Jan. 1971 to Jul. 1971 — series 1301, 1 car
No longer listed Oct. 1971

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

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http://freightcars.nakina.net


Re: Reverse Creco doors

al_brown03
 

Hi Jared,

A search of the list for "reverse Creco" reveals that the term has been used for several different doors. What car are you modelling?

Best regards,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Reverse Creco doors

Jared Harper
 

Does anyone make a reverse Creco door in HO?


Jared Harper

Athens, GA


Re: Freight Car Repair Scene: Some Follow-Up

Dave Sarther
 

As usual the CNWHS Modeler has some pertinent info about modeling projects of interest based on historical info and photos in their current issue. The most current issue has a photo of a RIP scene using jacks under cars being repaired and a hoist used to move wheel sets around.
 
 
The article on RIP Tracks with a few interesting photos is of interest for me especially as it relates to the Delano photo we were discussing and a few follow-up questions I had that were answered by STMF members..  One photo featuring jacks being used as seen in the Delano photo is found on p.29 and another featuring a three legged hoist used to move wheel sets from a storage track to the RIP track is found on p. 34.
 
Enjoy,  Dave S.   Tucson, AZ

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