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Re: reverse decaling

vapeurchapelon
 

All,

I am no painter and don't have any knowledge of decals and their application, but I am doing some brass modeling and therefore I am watching the "Monday Morning Express" from brasstrains.com. FWIW, today they announced that one of the topics to be discussed and shown by known painter Boyd Reyes next week will be the "reverse decaling". Perhaps somebody here would like to watch it.

Many greetings

Johannes


Re: Reproducing decals

hubert mask
 

I don’t suppose you have the art work?   If so we can help.  Is the decal set out of production by the owner 

Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals Inc 


On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Craig Zeni clzeni@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I have a couple of sets of the late Stan Rydarowicz's Linde tank car decals I'd like to have reprinted.

- Does anybody know who Stan used for his decals?
- Otherwise, what are my options? I've not had custom decals done so I'm at a loss here.

Thanks,

Craig Zeni
Cary NC


Reproducing decals

Craig Zeni
 

I have a couple of sets of the late Stan Rydarowicz's Linde tank car decals I'd like to have reprinted.

- Does anybody know who Stan used for his decals?
- Otherwise, what are my options? I've not had custom decals done so I'm at a loss here.

Thanks,

Craig Zeni
Cary NC


FW: White toner cartridges

 

As I thought, they only make white toner for color printers.





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I’m interested in getting a white toner cartridge for my HP P2035, but I don’t see that listed as an option; do you produce them?





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LED light for an Optivisor

Eric Hansmann
 

George Toman shares a tip on adding a small LED lamp to an Optivisor in the latest Resin Car Works blog post.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/led-light-for-your-optivisor/



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: Sunshine Models Kits for Sale

O Fenton Wells
 

I'll take the SL SF car if it is still available

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 3:28 PM, fw75@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Each priced at $ 35 shipped first call parcel post. I certify all parts are intact including decals  and instructions.
Two were purchase directly by me and three from another individual who changed his modeling era and sold all his kits several years ago.  Where the original tissue is removed I will repack with paper towels and bubble wrap as necessary.

18.5 Great Northern Tongue in Groove AAR 1937 1940-50's Side facing Goat

26.3 Pennsy X-29 Modernized Creco Door, Circle Keystone

29.1 Atlanta & West Point War Emergency Boxcar

29.5 Georgia RR War Emergency Boxcar

39.2 SL-SF 160000 40' Howe Truss Boxcar Both Small Heralds

Contact Riley Kinney at fw75@...













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Santa Fe waybills

John Barry
 

Tony Thompson and I are trying to figure out if the Santa Fe actually used different waybill forms for each of it's operating companies as implied in the Santa Fe form index.  In the three pre-1960 versions of the Form 1091, List of Blanks that I have access to, they all list the waybill forms as what the Santa Fe called Regular Forms, forms that had the different corporate entity printed at the top for legal or other reasons.  This infers that shipments originating from Missouri would use an ATSF form with the railway accounting code 22 while a shipment originating in California on the Coast Lines would be on a form headed with that company identity and accounting code 30.  Similarly, origins from Texas should be on either a P&SF or GCSF headed form.  So much for theory, the only non-livestock Santa Fe waybill that I’ve seen originated in Missouri in 1959 and was on the proper ATSF form with code 22.  Which indicates that the Santa Fe really did use at least one of the four Regular waybill forms.  But what about the others?  Tony, Eric Hiser and I are actively seeking examples of Santa Fe waybills, especially from the Coast Lines or Texas points.  I’ve written a blog post about what I’ve learned in the National Archives from a closely related form, the Bill of Lading.  You can read that post and see some examples of WWII era forms from the SP, WP and Santa Fe Coast Lines at:



 
For anyone who would like to contact me off list, NorthBayLines at att dot net will reach me.
 
Thank you in advance for looking.  I hope that some of you have examples to share.
 
John


 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


Re: ICC 105 tanks and BLI 6k tank

Tony Thompson
 

Garth Groff wrote:

 

Question, due to the heavy weight of this chemical, did these cars have heavier trucks and maybe other beefed up construction, or was the small gallonage enough compensate for the load.


      I believe the latter. This was in fact common with tank cars, and later very much so with covered hoppers: make the car fit the density of the load.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: ICC 105 tanks and BLI 6k tank

devansprr
 


Garth,

I don't know, but their ORER entries do list the 6k cars as 100,000 pound capacity.

Unfortunately of the two Ethyl car photos in Ed's ACF book, pg 132 is of a 3k car, and pg 134 is a 6k car (EBAX 842), but it is one of Ethyl's small batch of Chlorine cars, not tetra-ethyl (which is why it lacks the Ethyl emblem on it.) But it was also rated at 100,000 pound capacity - so perhaps that photo could help?

I am not a truck expert anyway, so I would not be able to interpret such a photograph.

Ed Hawkins posted that most of the BLI cars are based on as-built documents (and I assume photos.) Perhaps someone has access to a picture of the Ethyl car prototype, or documents that specify the truck?

Dave Evans

---In STMFC@..., <sarahsan@...> wrote :

Dave,

Most of Ethyl cars were carrying tetra-ethyl, a VERY heavy commodity, which is probably why 6K tanks were used. I saw a lot of these still running on the WP in the 1970s, and most dated back into our period. I think they were all insulated.

Question, due to the heavy weight of this chemical, did these cars have heavier trucks and maybe other beefed up construction, or was the small gallonage enough compensate for the load.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 11/5/17 3:33 PM, devans1@... [STMFC] wrote (in part):

 


. . . I do have Al W's Jan '45 ORER CD with the TPI class - so that should answer my question. I notice Ethyl went from 246 cars to 342 cars in two years - most of them 6k 105A300's. . . .


Dave Evans



---In STMFC@..., <tony@...> wrote :



Re: ICC 105 tanks and BLI 6k tank

Garth Groff or Sally Sanford <sarahsan@...>
 

Dave,

Most of Ethyl cars were carrying tetra-ethyl, a VERY heavy commodity, which is probably why 6K tanks were used. I saw a lot of these still running on the WP in the 1970s, and most dated back into our period. I think they were all insulated.

Question, due to the heavy weight of this chemical, did these cars have heavier trucks and maybe other beefed up construction, or was the small gallonage enough compensate for the load.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 11/5/17 3:33 PM, devans1@... [STMFC] wrote (in part):

 


. . . I do have Al W's Jan '45 ORER CD with the TPI class - so that should answer my question. I notice Ethyl went from 246 cars to 342 cars in two years - most of them 6k 105A300's. . . .


Dave Evans



---In STMFC@..., wrote :



Re: ICC 105 tanks and BLI 6k tank

devansprr
 

Thanks Tony - The Jan '43 ORER lacks the TPI, so it must have been added somewhere in that 18 month window.

I do have Al W's Jan '45 ORER CD with the TPI class - so that should answer my question. I notice Ethyl went from 246 cars to 342 cars in two years - most of them 6k 105A300's.

Sorry about the ARA/AAR - I am working a current AAR initiative, so in trying to make sure I don't use ARA in a meeting, I try to use ARA for modeling and AAR for work, especially since a lot of WWII rolling stock was based on ARA designs.

Dave Evans


---In STMFC@..., <tony@...> wrote :

Dave Evans wrote:

 

TPI wasn't included in the tank car type table in editorial section of the '43 ORER, and the ARA/ICC cross reference shows TM for type 105 (Footnote says to add I to the tank car class if insulated, so that would make it TMI for type 105.)


       This may be true, but in my July 1944 ORER there definitely IS a listing for TP tank cars. And by the way, after 1934, the ARA had become the AAR, so we are talking about AAR car classes.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: 50' w/6' door

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <fgexbill@...> wrote :

I picked one of those up too Clark, thought the look very interesting. CNW and IC had 50-footers w/6-foot doors too, kind of funky looking in a good way. Wish someone would do them in resin.
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The Soo Line had them too, 136200-136298 even, 50 cars built by Pullman-Standard in 1936. These were 10'-0" IH cars, and looked really weird with their almost flat Pullman built doors. These were only 50 ton cars, and I remember reading that they were intended for LCL service.

The strange doors did not last long. By 1953 10 cars had already been rebuilt with 8' doors; five of them receiving perforated metal linings for packaged foodstuff loading, Mech. Designation XME. The doors were slightly staggered; the left edge of the opening remained as built while the opening was extended two feet to the right. The new doors were Improved Youngstown. By 1962 the 48 remaining cars had all been converted, and some had received DF loaders.

Dennis Storzek
 


Sunshine Models Kits for Sale

Riley Kinney
 

Each priced at $ 35 shipped first call parcel post. I certify all parts are intact including decals  and instructions.
Two were purchase directly by me and three from another individual who changed his modeling era and sold all his kits several years ago.  Where the original tissue is removed I will repack with paper towels and bubble wrap as necessary.

18.5 Great Northern Tongue in Groove AAR 1937 1940-50's Side facing Goat

26.3 Pennsy X-29 Modernized Creco Door, Circle Keystone

29.1 Atlanta & West Point War Emergency Boxcar

29.5 Georgia RR War Emergency Boxcar

39.2 SL-SF 160000 40' Howe Truss Boxcar Both Small Heralds

Contact Riley Kinney at fw75@...











Re: ICC 105 tanks and BLI 6k tank

Tony Thompson
 

Dave Evans wrote:

 

TPI wasn't included in the tank car type table in editorial section of the '43 ORER, and the ARA/ICC cross reference shows TM for type 105 (Footnote says to add I to the tank car class if insulated, so that would make it TMI for type 105.)


       This may be true, but in my July 1944 ORER there definitely IS a listing for TP tank cars. And by the way, after 1934, the ARA had become the AAR, so we are talking about AAR car classes.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: ICC105 tanks and BLI 6k tank (was ICC 150)

devansprr
 

Sorry gents - I transposed the 0 and 5 on the subject line.

Dave Evans


Re: ICC150 tanks and BLI 6k tank

devansprr
 

Tony,

For the 1943 ORER, Ethyl and Hooker list TMI for their ICC105 cars (two of the owners who do list the ICC type.)

TPI wasn't included in the tank car type table in editorial section of the '43 ORER, and the ARA/ICC cross reference shows TM for type 105 (Footnote says to add I to the tank car class if insulated, so that would make it TMI for type 105.)

When was TPI started by ARA?

I guess I could cross reference a later ORER that used the TPI designation? In the '43 ORER you need to peruse the notes, and they appear to be incomplete for some car owners.

The '36 freight tarriff 300-A tank car book uses notes that identify the commodity shipped for specialized cars. I guess that was the way to find a chlorine car - look for cars with note 10? For a modeler, that may actually be more useful than just ICC105 (since chlorine cars were almost all ICC105, except for the cars with racks of small tanks?)

Is it even possible to find WWII era tarriff 300-A's?

Dave Evans


Re: 50' w/6' door

Bill Welch
 

I picked one of those up too Clark, thought the look very interesting. CNW and IC had 50-footers w/6-foot doors too, kind of funky looking in a good way. Wish someone would do them in resin.

Sorry to see the Rib-side car line disappear as they can be made into very interesting and good models.

Bill Welch


Re: ICC150 tanks and BLI 6k tank

Tony Thompson
 

Dave Evans wrote:

 

With the second shipment of BLI 6k tank cars, I am trying to figure out just how prevalent ICC type 105 cars were during WWII, and specifically 6k cars.

Most tank car owner lists in the 1943 ORER do not list the ICC class - just the ARA designations.


     The ICC 105 cars are AAR Class TPI. Look for that.


Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






ICC150 tanks and BLI 6k tank

devansprr
 

With the second shipment of BLI 6k tank cars, I am trying to figure out just how prevalent ICC type 105 cars were during WWII, and specifically 6k cars.

Most tank car owner lists in the 1943 ORER do not list the ICC class - just the ARA designations.

I have searched the archives and files here, and there is lots of good information on the BLI paint schemes and dates (Thank-you!), but I can not find a fleet count for this sort of car type.

Does anyone have a rough idea? Most everything I can find (ORER entries that include ICC types - there are some), Ed's ACF book, and other posts suggests that these cars were bought in very modest quantities. Perhaps less than 1000 of them in the North American fleet during WWII?

Is there a source on tank car counts by ICC type?

Thank-you,
Dave Evans



Re: 50' w/6' door

Benjamin Hom
 


Clark Propst wrote:
"Several heartland railroads bought 50’ box cars with 6’ doors. I picked up a Rib Side Cars kit at a train show yesterday. I’m curious to know their intended use."

Basically big 40 ft boxcars.  The 6 ft door opening makes them suited for existing grain doors, which would be attractive to the granger roads.  Of course, wider door openings were becoming more attractive for general service, especially with the wider use of forktrucks.


Ben Hom  

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