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Re: Weathering Miniature Chain - Suggestions?

Charles Peck
 

Google brown patina on brass.  Couple of methods are easy.
Chuck Peck

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On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:42 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

I assume that most loads secured by chain were secured by chains that were used over and over again. As such the chain would show quite a bit of weathering.

 

Any suggestions on how to weather miniature chain without clogging the individual links with the weathering medium?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Weathering Miniature Chain - Suggestions?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I assume that most loads secured by chain were secured by chains that were used over and over again. As such the chain would show quite a bit of weathering.

 

Any suggestions on how to weather miniature chain without clogging the individual links with the weathering medium?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Trainfest announcements

O Fenton Wells
 

The parts are $20.00 and that includes resin parts decals and S&H.  Dr. Dave address is
Dr.  Dave Campbell
1456 Torrey Pines Cir
Yuma AZ 85365

Fenton Wells


On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM, SSEXTON9@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Fenton,

Could you please provide me with Dr. Campbell's address? I'd like to try my hand again at kitbashing since my stroke. Thanks much.

Larry Sexton
---- "O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
> Eric, great blog about the Accurail 36 ft boxcars. They are a wonderfully
> needed product for the hobby.
> Attached are photos of the bash we did for the Winston Salem NC RPM in
> October. We are deeply indebted to Greg Martin and Schuyler Larrabee for
> their leadership and inspiration with the Shake 'N Take series of kit
> bashing at Cocoa FL RPM.
> Thanks to many helpers, Ray Breyer included we put together a Southern RR
> Ventilated boxcar bash. Dr. Dave Campbell did the resin ends and doors and
> Dr. Dave Bott did the custom decals and Accurail helped with the undec No
> 1800 version we used as a starting point. We can't thank Accurail enough
> for their support. I bashed the car and did a bash clinic at them meet. I
> am attaching some poorly taken photos (my bad) that I took of the partial
> and finished product. By the way if anyone wants to purchase the decals
> and resin parts they will be available from Dr. Campbell for a while for
> $12.00 a set(both included). Modelers can purchase the Accurail undec No.
> 1800 from Accurail. People can email me and I will send them Dr.
> Campbell's address.
> Bottom line is; building is FUN and bashing may be even more fun.
> Fenton Wells
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC] <
> STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.
> >
> > I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog
> > <http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/> in a week or two, once I finish up
> > the latest Modeler's Notebook.
> >
> > Ray Breyer
> > Elgin, IL
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson
> > prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at
> > Trainfest Anything this year?
> >
> > Brian J. Carlson
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
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> Fenton Wells
> 250 Frye Rd
> Pinehurst NC 28374
> 910-420-8106
> srrfan1401@...
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Re: I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars

Stic Harris
 

Sir!

I could certainly use that information if still available!
Just let me know.

Thank you,

Stic Harris
12312 Cypress Spring Rd
Clarksburg, MD 20871

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:42 PM, 'Claus Schlund' claus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Hi List Members,
 
I'm cleaning out some stuff I no longer need.
 
I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars.
 
This includes the following set of articles cut from magazines from my library
 
To market by rail: milk cars by Yungkurth (multi-part article)
Bottling Milk (no author listed)
Building Three Milk Cars by Sittner
Modeling the Milk Trains (no author listed) (multi-part article)
Quick Milk Cars by Nehrich
Milk Operation for Modelers by Nehrich (multi-part article)
 
It is time for someone else to enjoy these.
 
Great reference on this topic.
 
It is free, I will put it in an envelope and mail it to you for the asking.
 
Email me OFF LIST at
 
CLAUS
then
the usual email separator
HELLGATEMODELS
period
COM
 
Thanks
 
Claus Schlund
 




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I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I'm cleaning out some stuff I no longer need.
 
I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars.
 
This includes the following set of articles cut from magazines from my library
 
To market by rail: milk cars by Yungkurth (multi-part article)
Bottling Milk (no author listed)
Building Three Milk Cars by Sittner
Modeling the Milk Trains (no author listed) (multi-part article)
Quick Milk Cars by Nehrich
Milk Operation for Modelers by Nehrich (multi-part article)
 
It is time for someone else to enjoy these.
 
Great reference on this topic.
 
It is free, I will put it in an envelope and mail it to you for the asking.
 
Email me OFF LIST at
 
CLAUS
then
the usual email separator
HELLGATEMODELS
period
COM
 
Thanks
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: B&O M-15 underframe

lytlemp
 

Earl.


The B&O Modeler also had a nice article on an M-15k rebuild.  Please utilize the following link to access the ezine:  https://www.borhs.org/modelermag/modeler-44-201706.pdf


The article is titled: 

MODELING B&O’S M-15K BOXCAR IN HO,

BUILDING THE CHICAGOLAND RPMMINI-KIT

BY BOB CHAPMAN


The article begins on page 21.


Mike


Re: B&O M-15 underframe

Nelson Moyer
 

Earl, there is a comprehensive article on the M-15k rebuild by George Toman in Prototype Railroad Modeling Volume 4 p.53-68, with both prototype and modeling photos including the underbody details. The book is available from Speedwitch Media. While the article doesn’t answer all of your questions, it shows you how to build a very accurate model of the M-15k.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Stmfc@...
Subject: [STMFC] B&O M-15 underframe

 

 

Hello,

Can anyone direct me to a source of a drawing of a B&O M-15 underframe? If not a complete drawing, can
anyone share some of the important dimensions and further information regarding the layout of the
brakes? I have the truck centers at 32' 2 3/4" (from the M-15k class diagram published in RPC #9,) but:
what is the depth of the center sill; what dimensions are the side sills (they appear to be a pressed steel Z?
About 10" in depth?,) and end sills (from photos, I'm estimating them to be a 12" rolled channel, offset 2"
upwards from the bottom of the side sills.) The crossbearers are set rather more widely than the door
posts, with the KC brake gear sitting between them with room to spare, although a brake lever bracket
mounted under the side sill suggests an atypical rigging. Rivets on the side sills also indicate three
crossties in all. Any help provided is much appreciated. Thank you,

Earl Tuson


Re: B&O M-15 underframe

rwitt_2000
 

Earl,

Contact Ted Anderson at the Pullman Library at the IRM. He has drawings for the M-15s built by the Standard Steel Car Company.  I have not done a detailed comparison, but I suspect that the underframes for the M-15 are essentially identical especially for what you need.

Bob Witt


NYC Yard Operations

gary laakso
 

For your Monday viewing, hump operations on NYC in the 1950s (a 36 foot boxcar appears):

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dhQq3oxpgQ 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


B&O M-15 underframe

Earl Tuson
 

Hello,

Can anyone direct me to a source of a drawing of a B&O M-15 underframe? If not a complete drawing, can
anyone share some of the important dimensions and further information regarding the layout of the
brakes? I have the truck centers at 32' 2 3/4" (from the M-15k class diagram published in RPC #9,) but:
what is the depth of the center sill; what dimensions are the side sills (they appear to be a pressed steel Z?
About 10" in depth?,) and end sills (from photos, I'm estimating them to be a 12" rolled channel, offset 2"
upwards from the bottom of the side sills.) The crossbearers are set rather more widely than the door
posts, with the KC brake gear sitting between them with room to spare, although a brake lever bracket
mounted under the side sill suggests an atypical rigging. Rivets on the side sills also indicate three
crossties in all. Any help provided is much appreciated. Thank you,

Earl Tuson


Upgrades to an Erie box car

Eric Hansmann
 

Bill Welch shares detail techniques on the Resin Car Works blog as he upgrades an HO scale Erie box car. Check out Bill's Xxtreme Modeling activities!

http://blog.resincarworks.com/upgrades-for-erie-ara-1932-standard-box-cars/


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: Very Small Chain

Bill Welch
 

Everyone, initially I am going to experiment w/0.010 wire and go to 0.008 if necessary. For the brake lever attachment I like to use a very short section of wire attached thru the lever that works like a little hook. I use CA to hold the chain to the hook. The trick will be how to attach this very small chain to the rod, where I prefer to use .012 wire. Same problem with brake gear on "B" end. I will take photos to share when I get around to it.

Bill Welch


Re: Very Small Chain

Dave Parker
 

Bill:

When I need fine, soft wire to make a loop (or other things), I use UTC Ultra Wire.  It's a fly fishing (tying) product, and pretty cheap.  Sizes:  XS = 0.0045", S = 0.0065", BR (=brassie) = 0.0083", M = 0.0135".  Sizes are approximate, as it seems to vary a bit from spool to spool

It comes in some colors (e.g., black, brown) that can be convenient.  It's available at a lot of fishing outlets.  A quick glance suggests J. Stockard has one of the better selections.

Best,

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Sunday, November 12, 2017 2:24 PM, "j.markwart@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Hello Bill,
 
the smallest wire (for hobby purposes) I know of is the Detail Associates #2501. It is just .006" brass. I am using this for bell and whistle ropes and several other appliances. It is soft enough for very sharp bendings. Sometimes they show up at ebay.
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. November 2017 um 22:32 Uhr
Von: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: [STMFC] Very Small Chain
 
 
A new modeling friend in Germany helped me acquire some very small chain, 50 links per inch. Here you can compare it to Abe's head. Now I need to figure out how to attach it as .012 wire is too large to slip through a link. maybe .010 or .008 wire. Here is a link to a photo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecmp2nm17wvtw9h/Very%20Small%20Chain%20.JPG?dl=0
 
 
Bill Welch
 
 



Re: Very Small Chain

mwbauers
 

I think you folks would also like a single strand of the stranded copper wire you find in an ordinary electrical extension cord.

That copper wire is about the same size and a single about to be thrown out old electrical cord is a lifetime supply of such fine wire.

So give it a thought before you throw out the next worn out extension cord.

Or the next time you see one for sale for a buck or two, buy it.


Mike Bauers

On Nov 12, 2017, at 4:24 PM, "j.markwart@gmx.net [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

the smallest wire (for hobby purposes) I know of is the Detail Associates #2501. It is just .006" brass.


Re: Very Small Chain

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Bill,
 
the smallest wire (for hobby purposes) I know of is the Detail Associates #2501. It is just .006" brass. I am using this for bell and whistle ropes and several other appliances. It is soft enough for very sharp bendings. Sometimes they show up at ebay.
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. November 2017 um 22:32 Uhr
Von: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]"
An: STMFC@...
Betreff: [STMFC] Very Small Chain
 

 

A new modeling friend in Germany helped me acquire some very small chain, 50 links per inch. Here you can compare it to Abe's head. Now I need to figure out how to attach it as .012 wire is too large to slip through a link. maybe .010 or .008 wire. Here is a link to a photo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecmp2nm17wvtw9h/Very%20Small%20Chain%20.JPG?dl=0

 

 

Bill Welch

 

 


Re: Trainfest announcements

Larry Sexton
 

Fenton,

Could you please provide me with Dr. Campbell's address? I'd like to try my hand again at kitbashing since my stroke. Thanks much.

Larry Sexton
---- "O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@gmail.com [STMFC]" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Eric, great blog about the Accurail 36 ft boxcars. They are a wonderfully
needed product for the hobby.
Attached are photos of the bash we did for the Winston Salem NC RPM in
October. We are deeply indebted to Greg Martin and Schuyler Larrabee for
their leadership and inspiration with the Shake 'N Take series of kit
bashing at Cocoa FL RPM.
Thanks to many helpers, Ray Breyer included we put together a Southern RR
Ventilated boxcar bash. Dr. Dave Campbell did the resin ends and doors and
Dr. Dave Bott did the custom decals and Accurail helped with the undec No
1800 version we used as a starting point. We can't thank Accurail enough
for their support. I bashed the car and did a bash clinic at them meet. I
am attaching some poorly taken photos (my bad) that I took of the partial
and finished product. By the way if anyone wants to purchase the decals
and resin parts they will be available from Dr. Campbell for a while for
$12.00 a set(both included). Modelers can purchase the Accurail undec No.
1800 from Accurail. People can email me and I will send them Dr.
Campbell's address.
Bottom line is; building is FUN and bashing may be even more fun.
Fenton Wells

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@yahoo.com [STMFC] <
STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.

I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog
<http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/> in a week or two, once I finish up
the latest Modeler's Notebook.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson
prrk41361@yahoo.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at
Trainfest Anything this year?

Brian J. Carlson
Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Trainfest announcements

O Fenton Wells
 

Eric, great blog about the Accurail 36 ft boxcars. They are a wonderfully
needed product for the hobby.
Attached are photos of the bash we did for the Winston Salem NC RPM in
October. We are deeply indebted to Greg Martin and Schuyler Larrabee for
their leadership and inspiration with the Shake 'N Take series of kit
bashing at Cocoa FL RPM.
Thanks to many helpers, Ray Breyer included we put together a Southern RR
Ventilated boxcar bash. Dr. Dave Campbell did the resin ends and doors and
Dr. Dave Bott did the custom decals and Accurail helped with the undec No
1800 version we used as a starting point. We can't thank Accurail enough
for their support. I bashed the car and did a bash clinic at them meet. I
am attaching some poorly taken photos (my bad) that I took of the partial
and finished product. By the way if anyone wants to purchase the decals
and resin parts they will be available from Dr. Campbell for a while for
$12.00 a set(both included). Modelers can purchase the Accurail undec No.
1800 from Accurail. People can email me and I will send them Dr.
Campbell's address.
Bottom line is; building is FUN and bashing may be even more fun.
Fenton Wells

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@yahoo.com [STMFC] <
STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.

I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog
<http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/> in a week or two, once I finish up
the latest Modeler's Notebook.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson
prrk41361@yahoo.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at
Trainfest Anything this year?

Brian J. Carlson
Sent from my iPhone


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Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@gmail.com


2017 Chicagoland RPM Photos

gtws00
 

I found this link on another yahoo group to a photo album  posted by John Gillies of the 2917 Chicagoland RPM.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/58526444@N07/sets/72157688072820941?ytcheck=1&new_session=1


George Toman



Re: Trainfest announcements

Ray Breyer
 

Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.

I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog in a week or two, once I finish up the latest Modeler's Notebook.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson prrk41361@... [STMFC] wrote:


I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at Trainfest Anything this year?

Brian J. Carlson



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Trainfest announcements

Brian Carlson
 

I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at Trainfest Anything this year?

Brian J. Carlson

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