Date   

latest kit offering

Gary Kohler <m2fq@...>
 

All
 
dont know if photos go thru on this list, but here's our latest O scale offering
 
prepainted and lettered
 
Also available NYC&HR grain line in HO, S and O
 
contact me of flist for details
 
 
"I have the standard gauge boxcar at the 95 percent stage and posted a couple of photo. It is a stunning kit, and well worth the price of admission. It still needs some final touch up paint and a final coat of flat, but the photos are in the Coleman Projects folder.
 
Matt "
 

 
Gary Kohler
m2fq@aol.com
330-719-0264

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Where on the side of the car should i measure to or from to get the inside height of a car?

Benjamin Scanlon
 

I'm thinking of the TT scale Fowler which was 'pantographed' down from an S or 0 scale model. 


But the question may have broader relevance.


Ben Scanlon


GREAT FREIGHT CAR PHIOTOS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

I just stopped by the local Barns And Noble store for my post workout coffee and what a pleasant surprise.  There was a new magazine in the Classic Trains series called Great Trains Freight.

It had some great detail shots of freivht csrs that are somewhere in my pipeline.
An added bonus (for me) was an article on a Santa Fe refer block train for potatos.  It has sevsral detail photos of Santa Fe refers, sgain high on my list.

A nice feature of Barns And Noble is that they encourage you to take the magazines in the coffee shop.  So get a cup of coffee and enjoy.  I will pribably buy the book as these photos net out far below the pries we pay at the photo vendors.

Bill Pardie



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


Re: Hundman's Virginian box car build

David
 

The outside-braced plate ends are uncommon, but not unique to these cars. LV and B&O had similar ends on double-sheathed cars built in the Teens, and it was the "standard" end for the USRA steel-sheathed box.

David Thompson


Re: B&O M-15 underframe

lytlemp
 

Bob,


I agree with your opinion, it's just that the PRM #4 is not available at this moment.  I believe that if you visit the SpeedWitch site you'll find that it is in the process of being reprinted and therefore if this request is time sensitive I thought that I would offer an another venue.


Mike


Re: Very Small Chain

Bill Welch
 

I alway model the chain "slack."

Bill Welch


Re: Very Small Chain

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <npmoyer@...> wrote :

Another option is to use 26 AWG magnet wire, used for winding toroid inductors. As ham radio operator, I keep a supply acquired at Radio Shack.

 

Nelson Moyer

=============================


26? 26 AWG is huge, larger than the oversize wire most people use for grab irons. According to this chart: http://www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/wire-gauge-chart.htm#chart Bill needs something like 34 or 35 AWG. I also should point out that magnet wire is varnish coated, for insulation between the windings, so is hard to solder.


If Bill has a calipers, he should just measure the thickness of the last link, where he can get it flat between the jaws of the caliper. That will give him the diameter of the wire the chain is made from; stands to reason that wire of that diameter will fir through the link, 'cause that's how chain is made.


As to slack vs. taunt chain in a model brake system, slack chains are plausible on a car standing in the yard or on a spur, since hand brakes aren't always tied down, but taunt chains look out of place in a train unless you model the ring of fire around the wheel that most often accompanies sticking brakes.


Dennis Storzek


Re: Very Small Chain

Nelson Moyer
 

Another option is to use 26 AWG magnet wire, used for winding toroid inductors. As ham radio operator, I keep a supply acquired at Radio Shack.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 4:44 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: Aw: [STMFC] Very Small Chain

 

 

Mike, I do the very same thing when affixing fine chain to the brake cylinder:  employing thin copper wire from a common electrical cord for my “mechanical” joint and, when the brake chain is hanging properly, hit the joint with a bit of ACC or epoxy to make it secure.

 

Michael Gross

Pasadena, CA

 

 

 

 


Re: Very Small Chain

Jack Burgess
 

Speaking about the chains which are attached to the cylinder level/air brake cylinder, our own Gene Green has a comprehensive article in our archives which covers this subject and many more include the minimum radius and size for the brake pipe, etc.

 

For example, are you modeling a car with:

 

Air brakes applied and hand brakes applied – No slack in the chain

Air brakes applied and hand brakes released – Slack in the chain

Air brakes released and hand brakes applied - No slack in the chain

Air brakes released and hand brakes released -  Slack in the chain

 

Go to our Yahoo website and click on Files and search for “Freight Car UnderbodyDetail.pdf” to find and download his article.

 

Jack Burgess


Re: B&O M-15 underframe

Bob Chapman
 

Mike --

Thanks for pointing out the B&O Modeler article, but for the very serious M-15k (or M-15) modeler, I'd encourage them to check out George Toman's article in PRM #4. George's model is museum quality. The Modeler article was aimed at de-mystifying the MiniKit construction for those who wanted an acceptable "layout model" with a typical resin-kit time commitment. Two different goals, two different endpoints.       


Regards,

Bob Chapman



Mike writes:

The B&O Modeler also had a nice article on an M-15k rebuild. Please utilize the following link to access the ezine: https://www.borhs.org/modelermag/modeler-44-201706.pdf https://www.borhs.org/modelermag/modeler-44-201706.pdf 

The article is titled:
MODELING B&O’S M-15K BOXCAR IN HO, BUILDING THE CHICAGOLAND RPMMINI-KIT
BY BOB CHAPMAN 


Re: Trainfest announcements

Larry Smith
 

Fenton

Could you send me Dr. Campbell's phone number off list.  Our club may be interested in doing this as a make and take and we will need 20 of the sets.

Larry Smith
























fenton



From: "O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Trainfest announcements

 
The parts are $20.00 and that includes resin parts decals and S&H.  Dr. Dave address is
Dr.  Dave Campbell
1456 Torrey Pines Cir
Yuma AZ 85365
Fenton Wells

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM, SSEXTON9@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
Fenton,

Could you please provide me with Dr. Campbell's address? I'd like to try my hand again at kitbashing since my stroke. Thanks much.

Larry Sexton
---- "O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
> Eric, great blog about the Accurail 36 ft boxcars. They are a wonderfully
> needed product for the hobby.
> Attached are photos of the bash we did for the Winston Salem NC RPM in
> October. We are deeply indebted to Greg Martin and Schuyler Larrabee for
> their leadership and inspiration with the Shake 'N Take series of kit
> bashing at Cocoa FL RPM.
> Thanks to many helpers, Ray Breyer included we put together a Southern RR
> Ventilated boxcar bash. Dr. Dave Campbell did the resin ends and doors and
> Dr. Dave Bott did the custom decals and Accurail helped with the undec No
> 1800 version we used as a starting point. We can't thank Accurail enough
> for their support. I bashed the car and did a bash clinic at them meet. I
> am attaching some poorly taken photos (my bad) that I took of the partial
> and finished product. By the way if anyone wants to purchase the decals
> and resin parts they will be available from Dr. Campbell for a while for
> $12.00 a set(both included). Modelers can purchase the Accurail undec No.
> 1800 from Accurail. People can email me and I will send them Dr.
> Campbell's address.
> Bottom line is; building is FUN and bashing may be even more fun.
> Fenton Wells
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC] <
> STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.
> >
> > I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog
> > <http://designbuildop. hansmanns.org/> in a week or two, once I finish up
> > the latest Modeler's Notebook.
> >
> > Ray Breyer
> > Elgin, IL
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson
> > prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at
> > Trainfest Anything this year?
> >
> > Brian J. Carlson
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------ ------
> > Posted by: Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...>
> > ------------------------------ ------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------ ------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Fenton Wells
> 250 Frye Rd
> Pinehurst NC 28374
> 910-420-8106
> srrfan1401@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...



Re: Railway Prototype Cyclopedia

Brent Greer
 

I am in need of a copy of RP Cyclopedia volume 23.  If anyone has one that they might be persuaded to part with, please contact me off list at studegator at msn . com

Thanks,
Brent
________________________________
Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: STMFC@... on behalf of Ed Hawkins hawk0621@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...>
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 1:48:03 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Railway Prototype Cyclopedia
 
 

STMFC Members,
The RP CYC Publishing Co. announces that Volume 34 published in the spring of 2017 was the final volume of Railway Prototype Cyclopedia. We thank the many members of the STMFC for your loyal support of the series that continued over a 20 year period & totaled nearly 3,900 pages of content mostly on steam-era freight cars.

Currently remaining in stock are limited quantities of 12 volume numbers (1, 10 through 16, 19, 31-32, 33, and 34), and we offer these volumes at attractive discount prices that includes postage to addresses in the U.S. In addition, some copies of Volume 8 remain that were held back from dealer sales due to a few relatively minor ink smears that appear on 5 or 6 random pages. These Volume 8 books are offered "as-is." 

Prices:
$8.00 for Volume 1 (list $20.95)
$10.00 each for Volumes 8 (as-is), 10 through 16, 19 (list $24.95 to $29.95)
$20.00 each for Volumes 31-32, 33, 34 (list $59.95)

If a volume becomes out of stock, we'll use first-in/first-out method and notify you accordingly for a refund.

For this offer to be valid, payment by check or money order for these volumes must be postmarked by Saturday, November 18, 2017, and mailed to:

RP CYC Publishing Co.
P.O. Box 451
Chesterfield, MO 63006-0451

To download a flyer: http://www.rpcycpub..com/RPCYC_final_flyer.pdf

Please send questions or comments OFF-LIST to rpcyc@...

We sincerely appreciate the opportunity via the STMFC for making notifications and for the support we have received.

Thank you,
Ed Hawkins & Pat Wider
RP CYC Publishing Co.


Re: Very Small Chain

Michael Gross
 

Mike, I do the very same thing when affixing fine chain to the brake cylinder:  employing thin copper wire from a common electrical cord for my “mechanical” joint and, when the brake chain is hanging properly, hit the joint with a bit of ACC or epoxy to make it secure.

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA






Re: B&O M-15 underframe

Michael Gross
 

Thank you, Mike.  It’s a nice article.  With this and the George Toman article, what can possibly go wrong?!?  :0)

Michael Gross
Pasadena CA






Re: B&O M-15 underframe

ROGER HINMAN
 

Earl, Standard Steel Drawing 38048 is the partial under frame drawing and is available at the IRM library.

You are correct with the truck enter dimensions; the center sill is 28',the side sill is a 9" pressed Z shaped; end sill is a 10" 15# C channel offset 1 3/4" above the side sill; there are three cross ties and two cross bearers. Spacing between cross members is 64" plus a fraction, and a  shorter length between the last cross tie and the bolster. 

The brake rigging is Very atypical; there'a a brake badge published in the  PRMV4, and there are steel detail drawings of brake dead lever mounting parts at Harrisburg ; I was unable to find a complete brake arrgt, although I believe the IRM should have it.

Roger Hinman




-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Moyer npmoyer@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Mon, Nov 13, 2017 11:53 am
Subject: RE: [STMFC] B&O M-15 underframe

 
Earl, there is a comprehensive article on the M-15k rebuild by George Toman in Prototype Railroad Modeling Volume 4 p.53-68, with both prototype and modeling photos including the underbody details. The book is available from Speedwitch Media. While the article doesn’t answer all of your questions, it shows you how to build a very accurate model of the M-15k.
 
Nelson Moyer
 
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:48 AM
To: Stmfc@...
Subject: [STMFC] B&O M-15 underframe
 
 
Hello,

Can anyone direct me to a source of a drawing of a B&O M-15 underframe? If not a complete drawing, can
anyone share some of the important dimensions and further information regarding the layout of the
brakes? I have the truck centers at 32' 2 3/4" (from the M-15k class diagram published in RPC #9,) but:
what is the depth of the center sill; what dimensions are the side sills (they appear to be a pressed steel Z?
About 10" in depth?,) and end sills (from photos, I'm estimating them to be a 12" rolled channel, offset 2"
upwards from the bottom of the side sills.) The crossbearers are set rather more widely than the door
posts, with the KC brake gear sitting between them with room to spare, although a brake lever bracket
mounted under the side sill suggests an atypical rigging. Rivets on the side sills also indicate three
crossties in all. Any help provided is much appreciated. Thank you,

Earl Tuson


Re: I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
Please accept apologies for my error - this went to the list instead of a personal email address - oops!
 
In any case, the data pack is spoken for.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars


Hi Stic,
 
It is yours.
 
I will be making a run to the post office later today anyway, it will go out then.
 
Claus
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars

Sir!

I could certainly use that information if still available!
Just let me know.

Thank you,

Stic Harris
12312 Cypress Spring Rd
Clarksburg, MD 20871

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:42 PM, 'Claus Schlund' claus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Hi List Members,
 
I'm cleaning out some stuff I no longer need.
 
I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars.
 
This includes the following set of articles cut from magazines from my library
 
To market by rail: milk cars by Yungkurth (multi-part article)
Bottling Milk (no author listed)
Building Three Milk Cars by Sittner
Modeling the Milk Trains (no author listed) (multi-part article)
Quick Milk Cars by Nehrich
Milk Operation for Modelers by Nehrich (multi-part article)
 
It is time for someone else to enjoy these.
 
Great reference on this topic.
 
It is free, I will put it in an envelope and mail it to you for the asking.
 
Email me OFF LIST at
 
CLAUS
then
the usual email separator
HELLGATEMODELS
period
COM
 
Thanks
 
Claus Schlund
 




--


- Stic


Re: Very Small Chain

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <fgexbill@...> wrote :

Everyone, initially I am going to experiment w/0.010 wire and go to 0.008 if necessary. For the brake lever attachment I like to use a very short section of wire attached thru the lever that works like a little hook. I use CA to hold the chain to the hook. The trick will be how to attach this very small chain to the rod, where I prefer to use .012 wire. Same problem with brake gear on "B" end. I will take photos to share when I get around to it.

Bill Welch
=================

Seems to me, Bill, that if an eye formed on the end of the rod won't slip through the end link if the chain, the link could be soldered to the flat end of the rod, and look just like a forged eye. Is the chain brass?

Dennis Storzek


Re: Trainfest announcements

gary laakso
 

Thank you very much, Fenton, you kind soul to we Resinators!   This will be a fun project and a rarity out here in my new home state of Nevada.  Thanks again.

 

Gary Laakso

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:14 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Trainfest announcements

 

 

The parts are $20.00 and that includes resin parts decals and S&H.  Dr. Dave address is

Dr.  Dave Campbell

1456 Torrey Pines Cir

Yuma AZ 85365

Fenton Wells

 

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM, SSEXTON9@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Fenton,

Could you please provide me with Dr. Campbell's address? I'd like to try my hand again at kitbashing since my stroke. Thanks much.

Larry Sexton
---- "O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
> Eric, great blog about the Accurail 36 ft boxcars. They are a wonderfully
> needed product for the hobby.
> Attached are photos of the bash we did for the Winston Salem NC RPM in
> October. We are deeply indebted to Greg Martin and Schuyler Larrabee for
> their leadership and inspiration with the Shake 'N Take series of kit
> bashing at Cocoa FL RPM.
> Thanks to many helpers, Ray Breyer included we put together a Southern RR
> Ventilated boxcar bash. Dr. Dave Campbell did the resin ends and doors and
> Dr. Dave Bott did the custom decals and Accurail helped with the undec No
> 1800 version we used as a starting point. We can't thank Accurail enough
> for their support. I bashed the car and did a bash clinic at them meet. I
> am attaching some poorly taken photos (my bad) that I took of the partial
> and finished product. By the way if anyone wants to purchase the decals
> and resin parts they will be available from Dr. Campbell for a while for
> $12.00 a set(both included). Modelers can purchase the Accurail undec No.
> 1800 from Accurail. People can email me and I will send them Dr.
> Campbell's address.
> Bottom line is; building is FUN and bashing may be even more fun.
> Fenton Wells
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC] <
> STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.
> >
> > I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog
> > <http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/> in a week or two, once I finish up
> > the latest Modeler's Notebook.
> >
> > Ray Breyer
> > Elgin, IL
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson
> > prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at
> > Trainfest Anything this year?
> >
> > Brian J. Carlson
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...>
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Fenton Wells
> 250 Frye Rd
> Pinehurst NC 28374
> 910-420-8106
> srrfan1401@...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



 

--

Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd

Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Stic,
 
It is yours.
 
I will be making a run to the post office later today anyway, it will go out then.
 
Claus
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars

Sir!

I could certainly use that information if still available!
Just let me know.

Thank you,

Stic Harris
12312 Cypress Spring Rd
Clarksburg, MD 20871

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:42 PM, 'Claus Schlund' claus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Hi List Members,
 
I'm cleaning out some stuff I no longer need.
 
I have the following data pack... the topic is milk cars.
 
This includes the following set of articles cut from magazines from my library
 
To market by rail: milk cars by Yungkurth (multi-part article)
Bottling Milk (no author listed)
Building Three Milk Cars by Sittner
Modeling the Milk Trains (no author listed) (multi-part article)
Quick Milk Cars by Nehrich
Milk Operation for Modelers by Nehrich (multi-part article)
 
It is time for someone else to enjoy these.
 
Great reference on this topic.
 
It is free, I will put it in an envelope and mail it to you for the asking.
 
Email me OFF LIST at
 
CLAUS
then
the usual email separator
HELLGATEMODELS
period
COM
 
Thanks
 
Claus Schlund
 




--


- Stic


Re: Trainfest announcements

T.J. Stratton
 

Thanks!  TJ


TJ Stratton Maumee, OH. "Modeling the 1950's branch lines of the Michigan Central Railroad in southern Michigan" Mailto:michigancentralrr@...



From: STMFC@... on behalf of O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:14 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Trainfest announcements
 
 

The parts are $20.00 and that includes resin parts decals and S&H.  Dr. Dave address is
Dr.  Dave Campbell
1456 Torrey Pines Cir
Yuma AZ 85365

Fenton Wells


On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM, SSEXTON9@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Fenton,

Could you please provide me with Dr. Campbell's address? I'd like to try my hand again at kitbashing since my stroke. Thanks much.

Larry Sexton
---- "O Fenton Wells srrfan1401@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
> Eric, great blog about the Accurail 36 ft boxcars. They are a wonderfully
> needed product for the hobby.
> Attached are photos of the bash we did for the Winston Salem NC RPM in
> October. We are deeply indebted to Greg Martin and Schuyler Larrabee for
> their leadership and inspiration with the Shake 'N Take series of kit
> bashing at Cocoa FL RPM.
> Thanks to many helpers, Ray Breyer included we put together a Southern RR
> Ventilated boxcar bash. Dr. Dave Campbell did the resin ends and doors and
> Dr. Dave Bott did the custom decals and Accurail helped with the undec No
> 1800 version we used as a starting point. We can't thank Accurail enough
> for their support. I bashed the car and did a bash clinic at them meet. I
> am attaching some poorly taken photos (my bad) that I took of the partial
> and finished product. By the way if anyone wants to purchase the decals
> and resin parts they will be available from Dr. Campbell for a while for
> $12.00 a set(both included). Modelers can purchase the Accurail undec No.
> 1800 from Accurail. People can email me and I will send them Dr.
> Campbell's address.
> Bottom line is; building is FUN and bashing may be even more fun.
> Fenton Wells
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Ray Breyer rtbsvrr69@... [STMFC] <
> STMFC@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Accurail: 6 foot door Fowler boxcars. FINALLY in mass-produced plastic.
> >
> > I'll have a piece on them on Eric's blog
> > <http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/> in a week or two, once I finish up
> > the latest Modeler's Notebook.
> >
> > Ray Breyer
> > Elgin, IL
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, November 11, 2017, 7:39:00 PM CST, Brian Carlson
> > prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know sometimes new steam era models or paint schemes are announced at
> > Trainfest Anything this year?
> >
> > Brian J. Carlson
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Posted by: Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...>
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Fenton Wells
> 250 Frye Rd
> Pinehurst NC 28374
> 910-420-8106
> srrfan1401@...
>
>
>
>




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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...

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