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2018 Shake'n'Take sign up

Schuyler Larrabee
 

OK, the signup for the 2018 Shake’n’Take is open, a day earlier than I anticipated doing this since Greg sent out his “I’m not doing it, Schuyler is” note.

 

The car is an ERIE 95000 series 40’ double door box car. Built 1941-42.  I’ve been working from the ACF drawings obtained from the St. Louis Museum of Transportation Library with the help of Ed Hawkins.  There are photos available on George Elwood’s Fallen Flags web site, so you can see what a handsome car you’ll end up with.  (OK, I’m an ERIE fan, you thought I’d say something else?)

 

These cars were, when built, decorated with the small ERIE diamond, black roof and ends, but shortly after they were built, they were repainted, probably all in box car red, with the 6’ ERIE diamond.  They served on the ERIE until in the late 50s (I believe) and some of them were reconditioned (though it’s hard to see what was done) and bought by the Northern Pacific.

 

Most of the work on this model involves the underframe, as the underframe that comes with the donated kit is simply wrong.  But there are revised side sills and roof walk to see on the top side of the car.

 

We have good luck with donated parts for this car, and many of the parts will be included in the box I’ll be handing out.  The list of firms and people who’ve donated and helped out is long.  Some custom parts will be available from the makers after January, but most will have to be located by the modelers not signing up for the Cocoa Beach Shake’n’Take event.

 

As of right now. 9:14 PM Monday, I have 19 requests to participate.  I have 36 kits to hand out, and as Greg’s done in the past, ten are reserved for people at Cocoa Beach. That leaves seven open slots.

 

Please reply to this address.  I don’t see email to this address until later in the day, generally after 700 PM, so I will take the next seven emails in order.  I’ll send you back a confirmation when I get this list together.

 

I should mention that I have a close friend in the hospital at the moment, so I may not get to things as quickly as I might.  Please be patient.

 

Thanks.

 

Schuyler

 

Shake_N_TAKE 2018

Greg Martin
 

Hey Yuze Gize,

The delay in the SHAKE-N-TAKE is only because I am not presenting SHAKE-N-TAKE at Prototype Rails 2018, Schuyler Larrabee will be presenting this years SHAKE-N-TAKE and he is out of town.

Do I know the subject for 2018? Yes. Am I going to tell? NO. One member I know will say, "it sexy..."

I do know there are 36 slots to fill and we will, as is traditional, keep 10 slots open for those that arrive on Friday at registration. DO NOT request a slot through registration prior to the event or through emails with Mike Brock. Contact Schuyler Larrabee direct, he will maintain the list. If you don't plan to be there don't ask for a kit, you will not get it.

Will there be aftermarket parts, I can't speak for Schuyler he will let us all know.

Keep 'um Polished

Greg Martin


Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



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Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

frograbbit602
 

Bob I have not used this tool and I would not recommend it. I would guess this reamer could damage the head. In my opinion, you do not need a special tool as this to clean the nozzle. I clean the nozzles on my air brushes with the mini cotton swabs made by Tamiya , item 87106, purchased at Hobby Lobby or Studio 35 Beauty dual-tip applicators in the makeup department at my local drug store dipped in isopropyl alcohol, thinner or mineral spirits. This cleans the inside of the nozzles quickly restoring them to as new. If the nozzle really clogged a .008" wire can be used to get it open with the swabs. And, no matter how well you clean your airbrush after each use with water and alcohol in the case of acrylics, you will still need to clean the nozzle from time to time. Anyway I have to.
Lester Breuer

Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

Gary McMills
 

I use Dill's cotton pipe cleaners wetted with lacquer thinner. 

I rarely use acrylic paints.

best regards,

Gary McMills-  down the Bayou Louisiana

 




 


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Re: [STMFC] Airbrush Nozzle Reamer


 


I agree with Bill - I think some airbrushes have O rings inside that do
not take kindly to scraping with a metal brush


Those brushes have a metal core, I would steer clear of them.
Bill Welch

Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

Tim O'Connor
 


I agree with Bill - I think some airbrushes have O rings inside that do
not take kindly to scraping with a metal brush


Those brushes have a metal core, I would steer clear of them.
Bill Welch

Wanted: Sunshine 54.7 Frisco stock car

Jim Hayes
 

I'm looking for a Sunshine #54.7 Frisco stock car.
New or partly built.

Jim Hayes

Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

Bill Welch
 

Those brushes have a metal core, I would steer clear of them.

Bill Welch

Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

Bill Welch
 

I purchased this tool when I bought my Badger 155 Anthem around 1996-97 but have maybe used it once or twice but it has been a long time ago. At some point I realized that metal on metal is not a good formula as metal would likely scratch the interior of my AB. I use Interdental brushes, "Dental Papers," and Q-Tip and 91% Isopropyl Alcohol as I am Acrylics only and Isopropyl is VERY effective at cleaning Acrylics and easy to find and cheap.

Don't use Pipe Cleaners either as their core is metal wire.

Learn how to clean your Airbrush after every use and it will serve you faithfully for years and years.

Bill Welch

Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

gary laakso
 

I have used long cacti needles to clean clogged nozzles and it works very well with nozzles whose insides are wet.  Removing the cacti needle is sometimes not required when I careful with moving the nozzle over the needle. 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 4:38 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

 

 

some tools that can damage your airbrush you go to local harbor freight buy a brush set for cleaning  airbrushes

      tom

 

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 3:48 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone tried a tool such as this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/PointZero-Airbrush-Nozzle-Cleaning-Needle/dp/B004KNFP26

 

or this:

 

http://www.hobbylinc.com/badger-cleaning-reamers-for-heads-of-model-100,-150-200-airbrush-accessory-50060

 

Good tool? Bad tool? Precautions?

 

And, yes, if you are disciplined about cleaning your airbrush as you are painting one probably doesn't need this tool.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




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Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

tjcataldo
 

some tools that can damage your airbrush you go to local harbor freight buy a brush set for cleaning  airbrushes

      tom

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 3:48 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Has anyone tried a tool such as this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/PointZero-Airbrush-Nozzle-Cleaning-Needle/dp/B004KNFP26

 

or this:

 

http://www.hobbylinc.com/badger-cleaning-reamers-for-heads-of-model-100,-150-200-airbrush-accessory-50060

 

Good tool? Bad tool? Precautions?

 

And, yes, if you are disciplined about cleaning your airbrush as you are painting one probably doesn't need this tool.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




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Thomas  j Cataldo

Re: Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

Douglas Harding
 

Bob I would approach with caution, with concerns about possible damage. The first item looks to have a flat spot machined into the needle, creating a sharp edge for “scraping” the inside of the airbrush head. The scraping action could impact the smooth finish. Notice the second item is specific to certain Badger models, but not every airbrush Badger offers, specifically those designed for acrylics like the Anthem 155. I think the taper of the needle and the “head” differ from airbrush to airbrush and between manufacturers. For any reamer to work properly without damage, it would have to match the specs, angle and taper, of the airbrush head.

 

In conversations (some years ago) with Badger reps when they came out with their new airbrushes designed for acrylic paint, they specifically stated the needle and head taper had been redesigned to allow better flow of the heavier bodied acrylic paints. I can see the difference in the needle between my Badger 200 and 155.

 

Proper cleaning is the best maintenance for any airbrush. Acrylics can be a problem as they dry so quickly. My spray booth is sitting next to a laundry tub in my basement, so I can run hot water though as soon as I finish painting. When away from the booth I keep a bucket of water handy, just stick the brush in the water and spray. A bottle of airbrush cleaner is also handy to keep near by and I’ve learned to use it religiously.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:49 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

 

 

Has anyone tried a tool such as this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/PointZero-Airbrush-Nozzle-Cleaning-Needle/dp/B004KNFP26

 

or this:

 

http://www.hobbylinc.com/badger-cleaning-reamers-for-heads-of-model-100,-150-200-airbrush-accessory-50060

 

Good tool? Bad tool? Precautions?

 

And, yes, if you are disciplined about cleaning your airbrush as you are painting one probably doesn't need this tool.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Airbrush Nozzle Reamer

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Has anyone tried a tool such as this:

 

https://www.amazon.com/PointZero-Airbrush-Nozzle-Cleaning-Needle/dp/B004KNFP26

 

or this:

 

http://www.hobbylinc.com/badger-cleaning-reamers-for-heads-of-model-100,-150-200-airbrush-accessory-50060

 

Good tool? Bad tool? Precautions?

 

And, yes, if you are disciplined about cleaning your airbrush as you are painting one probably doesn't need this tool.

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: B&O 3086 hopper

Tim O'Connor
 

Jack

I was merely trying to draw on the illustrious expertise of this group of legendary
freight car gurus. It is only natural I suppose for those who dwell in the clouds to
sneer at those of us still emerging from the primordial muck.

Anyway, thank you all for the help!

Tim



Rereading my last post, the second sentence sounds snide, and I didn't intend that.  Perhaps "What relationship do you see that I don't ?" would better express what was in my head.

Jack Mullen

Re: Dump cars

mofwcaboose
 

Rio Grande Models Ltd. makes kits for HO and HOn3 dump cars that are similar in size to the old MEW cars, which, while they could dump, were heavy.
 
These are models of cars that were state of the art in the first decade of the Twentieth Century but were undersized by the 1920s. In 1958 you could still find a few on short lines.
 
They were mostly used in railroad construction for hauling dirt dug from cuts to the nearest temporary trestle, where the dirt was unloaded to fill in the trestle to make an embankment. These trains usually were ten or more cars.
 
They were also seen in ditching trains, usually in pairs, one at each end of a flat car holding an American Ditcher, which was later replaced with a crawler crane. Because of the limited "reach" of the ditcher, they persisted longer in that service then they did for bank-building.
 
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
 
 
 

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From: Edwardsutorik@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 3:29 pm
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Dump cars

 
Overland made an Austin Western 30yd dump car.

And I don't recall the MEW cars as being all THAT crude.  And they DID tip properly.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Re: B&O 3086 hopper

Jack Mullen
 

Rereading my last post, the second sentence sounds snide, and I didn't intend that. Perhaps "What relationship do you see that I don't ?" would better express what was in my head.

Jack Mullen

Re: B&O 3086 hopper

Jack Mullen
 

No, I wouldn't. Would you?

It has 9 panel sides, (or 7 if you just count the full height panels between body bolsters. a convention which I find confusing), vs 8 on a USRA car. USRA hoppers have a post at the center, where this car just has a rivet line showing internal bracing in line with the crossridge.

It has end sills protruding beyond the end posts, in common with most pre-USRA hopper car designs. Use of a relatively light angle section  end sill located above the top of the center sill, instead of the heavier channel section sills found on most earlier hoppers is a significant structural improvement found on USRA hoppers.

If I'm reading correctly, the cubic capy is 1888, close, but not quite a match to the USRA 1880.

Further, I try to avoid using the term "clone" in this context. The term doesn't seem to have consistent usage in the railfan/modeler world, so the intended meaning isn't clearly conveyed. YMMV.

Jack Mullen

Re: Dump cars

spsalso
 

Overland made an Austin Western 30yd dump car.

And I don't recall the MEW cars as being all THAT crude.  And they DID tip properly.


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Re: B&O 3086 hopper

wdzwonchyk
 

Meant to add that Funaro and Camerlengo make a model of this car.
Wayne Dzwonchyk


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From: dzwonchyk@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 2:50 pm
Subject: Re: [STMFC] B&O 3086 hopper

 
Tim: That's part of a series of CNJ 8 rib 9 panel hopper cars built around 1920 or so, some of which were later leased to the B&O. Note that the apex of the center slope sheets terminate in the middle of a side panel, not on a center rib.
Wayne Dzwonchyk


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From: Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...>
To: stmfc <stmfc@...>
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 2:23 pm
Subject: [STMFC] B&O 3086 hopper

 

Would you call this a USRA clone? (very slightly different)
Also, why no B&O class designation? (W-whatever)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352166417109

Tim O'Connor

Re: B&O 3086 hopper

wdzwonchyk
 

Tim: That's part of a series of CNJ 8 rib 9 panel hopper cars built around 1920 or so, some of which were later leased to the B&O. Note that the apex of the center slope sheets terminate in the middle of a side panel, not on a center rib.
Wayne Dzwonchyk


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]
To: stmfc <stmfc@...>
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 2:23 pm
Subject: [STMFC] B&O 3086 hopper

 

Would you call this a USRA clone? (very slightly different)
Also, why no B&O class designation? (W-whatever)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352166417109

Tim O'Connor

Re: B&O 3086 hopper

Bill Welch
 

USRA 2-bay hopper have seven ribs.

Bill Welch