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missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello friends,

a week ago I was about to purchase a brass box car from CIL like this one:

https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/082096/HO-Brass-Model-CIL-2408-3-UP-Union-Pacific-B-50-17-Steel-Side-Boxcar-182300-F-P-Custom-Weathered

but then I saw there is no coupler lift bar or any other uncoupling device usually found on every piece of rolling stock. It would be odd if CIL forgot such a major part of a model, but seemingly they did. Does anyone have a link to a photo where one can see what the real thing looked like?

Many thanks - and btw all the best for 2018 to all of you! :-)

Johannes


Re: Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge

Schleigh Mike
 

Hi Paul!

I will attend.  I can do a "WAG" themed talk.

Regards----Mike Schleigh



On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 7:18:14 PM EST, prrpaul@... [STMFC] wrote:


 

Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge  2018 Is coming up soon, March 23-25, 2018.  The location is the same great one as in the past, The Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA.(about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202),  Over 50 different clinics will be presented, along with a vendors room, models display room, operating sessions, and a home layout tour.


Please visit our web site for full information: www.rpmvalleyforge.com

There you will find a list of vendors, timetable, hotel information, and a registration form.


                                Paul Backenstose

                                Chairman


Re: M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

Douglas Harding
 

The MSTL 53000-53998 and 54000-54998 boxcars were 1937 AAR 10’0” cars purchased new in 1944 & 1945. 500 cars in each series, even numbers only. The cars were built by General American.

 

Clark published a great article on modeling these cars in HO in the August 2006 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. The article is very complete in regards to details about these cars. I’m sure Clark consulted with Gene Green about the details.

 

I am not aware of any of Gene’s work being published on line anywhere. There are extensive messages from Gene in the MSTL yahoo group files. And Gene has done articles for the CNW historical society publication. I believe Gene was a consultant for several manufactures, including getting Red Caboose to tool the Superior hand brake found on later MSTL cars. This hand brake sprue is available from the CNWHS.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

pennsylvania1954
 

Clark--In your offer for sale, you wrote:

"These are detailed as per Gene Green’s instructions including Barber S-2 trucks with Intermountain wheel sets and Kadee scale head whisker couplers."

Are Gene's instructions accessible online? I looked in the Files here. I tried a search of the archives here, but I couldn't convince Yahoo to do a complete search of Conversations without getting an error notice. I ddin't see anything on the STMFC site either.

Thanks for the help!

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



Re: BLI N scale NYC boxcars

rwitt_2000
 

Rick,

The current announcement is actually for the second run.

The Railwire is a good source for N scale products. Below is a link to discussions of the original release. You may have to become a member to see all the content.


They follow the HO scale models from BLI and these had input of prototype information from the late Richard Hendrickson.

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: BLI N scale NYC boxcars

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 1/7/2018 3:31 PM, Rdietrichson@... [STMFC] wrote:
I'm interested in finding out how accurate the new BLI NYC boxcars are. 

    I'm going to take a SWAG and assume the drawings are the same as the HO one (i.e. the car is the same as the HO one).  I would search for comments on the HO unit!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


BLI N scale NYC boxcars

rdietrichson
 

Hi all,

I'm interested in finding out how accurate the new BLI NYC boxcars are.  I haven't found many 8 panel steel cars.

Just wondering.


Thanks,


Rick Dietrichson

Wilmington, NC


M&Stl boxcar

MDelvec952
 


Hi Clark, 

I’m very interested in at least one.  Pix, please?

Thanks much. I like the previous cars from you very much. And they’re in my era. 

Mike Del Vecchio

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On Sunday, January 7, 2018, cepropst@q.com [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

 
 
I have too many M&StL 53,54000 series box cars for my current operation. I’d like to sell off a few. These are detailed as per Gene Green’s instructions including Barber S-2 trucks with Intermountain wheel sets and Kadee scale head whisker couplers. There cars are all in as built paint. I will request a premium price – slightly less then quality RTR freight cars or resin kits at $40 each. I also have two unbuilt Red caboose kits in as blt paint. These kits date to 1999. $15 each.
Contact me off list if serious and I’ll send photos for your approval.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Box cars for sale

Clark Propst
 

 
 
I have too many M&StL 53,54000 series box cars for my current operation. I’d like to sell off a few. These are detailed as per Gene Green’s instructions including Barber S-2 trucks with Intermountain wheel sets and Kadee scale head whisker couplers. There cars are all in as built paint. I will request a premium price – slightly less then quality RTR freight cars or resin kits at $40 each. I also have two unbuilt Red caboose kits in as blt paint. These kits date to 1999. $15 each.
Contact me off list if serious and I’ll send photos for your approval.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


New file uploaded to STMFC

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Re: HO scale freight car truck list

Scott H. Haycock
 


Scott Haycock


 



Hello,

Back when Richard Hendrickson wrote his article in the May 2013 MRH on freight car trucks, there was a google document link to reference currently available HO scale trucks.  When I try to use the link, it says it is no longer available.  Can anyone tell me if this file was moved, or available somewhere else?

Thanks in advance,

Brian Flynn





Re: HO scale freight car truck list

gtws00
 

Hi Brian,Attached is the article in MRHIs this what you are looking for?
George Toman

On Saturday, January 6, 2018, 9:47:43 PM CST, bflynn562@aol.com [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 




Hello,

Back when Richard Hendrickson wrote his article in the May 2013 MRH on freight car trucks, there was a google document link to reference currently available HO scale trucks.  When I try to use the link, it says it is no longer available.  Can anyone tell me if this file was moved, or available somewhere else?

Thanks in advance,

Brian Flynn





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HO scale freight car truck list

bflynnd1
 

Hello,

Back when Richard Hendrickson wrote his article in the May 2013 MRH on freight car trucks, there was a google document link to reference currently available HO scale trucks.  When I try to use the link, it says it is no longer available.  Can anyone tell me if this file was moved, or available somewhere else?

Thanks in advance,

Brian Flynn



Re: IMWX history

O Fenton Wells
 

I hope you find them


On Jan 6, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I imagine that the original CRMPG sq corner 5/5 dreadnaught end would more than satisfy your needs, however that pattern has disappeared over the years since it was rendered superfluous by IMWX tooling up the square corner post car.

Now, if someone out there as an original, unused CRMPG #1137E, I'd be happy to copy it and get it into production

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/06/18 12:42 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles
Pierre Oliver


Re: IMWX history

Pierre Oliver
 

At what point did we ever start talking about 10'6" cars?
This whole dialogue has been about 10'0" cars.
There's a different 5/5 end for the CPR cars, #1237 and #1643

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/06/18 2:47 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

�

Pierre

I do have a CRMPG 5/5 end as you describe but it's for the 10 foot high cars,
not for 10'6" cars. I think CP applied the 5/5 ends to some 1937 AAR cars.

Tim O'



I imagine that the original CRMPG sq corner 5/5 dreadnaught end would more than satisfy your needs, however that pattern has disappeared over the years since it was rendered superfluous by IMWX tooling up the square corner post car.

Now, if someone out there as an original, unused CRMPG #1137E, I'd be happy to copy it and get it into production





Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles


Pierre Oliver





Re: IMWX history

Tim O'Connor
 


Tony, yeah, the Sunshine A-50-12 and A-50-13 kits had it too - but I'd
like to have a bunch of them. I don't recall Tom ever offering it for sale.

Tim O'Connor




I think Tom Madden has made that 4-5 end, Tim.
Tony Thompson



Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles


Pierre Oliver


Re: IMWX history

Tim O'Connor
 

Pierre

I do have a CRMPG 5/5 end as you describe but it's for the 10 foot high cars,
not for 10'6" cars. I think CP applied the 5/5 ends to some 1937 AAR cars.

Tim O'



I imagine that the original CRMPG sq corner 5/5 dreadnaught end would more than satisfy your needs, however that pattern has disappeared over the years since it was rendered superfluous by IMWX tooling up the square corner post car.

Now, if someone out there as an original, unused CRMPG #1137E, I'd be happy to copy it and get it into production





Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles


Pierre Oliver




Re: IMWX history

Tony Thompson
 

I think Tom Madden has made that 4-5 end, Tim.
Tony Thompson 


On Jan 6, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles
Pierre Oliver


Re: IMWX history

Pierre Oliver
 

I imagine that the original CRMPG sq corner 5/5 dreadnaught end would more than satisfy your needs, however that pattern has disappeared over the years since it was rendered superfluous by IMWX tooling up the square corner post car.

Now, if someone out there as an original, unused CRMPG #1137E, I'd be happy to copy it and get it into production

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 1/06/18 12:42 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

�

Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles
Pierre Oliver


Re: IMWX history

Tim O'Connor
 

Pierre

I've never seen the CRMPG version - does it look better? At the very least
it could be applied to the Intermountain 1937 body.

You know the end I crave? An S-corner 4-5 10'6" replacement for the Proto
2000 box car. This is the end applied to Southern Pacific A-50-12 box cars,
which were the predecessors to the later A-50-14 that the stock kit is good
for. Also the same end was applied to A-50-13 cars, which were basically a
40 foot version of the A-50-12. There may be other railroads who used the
end but I haven't researched it.

Tim O'Connor




That makes more sense. Which explains why CRMPG had a sq corner end on offer at fist.
But I do have an IMWX kit with sq corner. So IMWX did the molds for both styles
Pierre Oliver

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