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Re: Cocoa Beach Report,

Bill Dewar
 

To echo Bruce’s comments, it was my second time attending, (although my badge stated I was a first timer, no fault of the committee) the clinics were excellent, including those that filled in for those that could not make it to the meet,  the various topics presented were varied and very well done. That Noreaster kept those from the Northeast area away, but, there were still a good amount of items available in the vendor room.  I, too, spent money with Bob’s photos.

The models displayed in the room were excellent, but, not as many as when I attended two years ago.

Mike Brock and his crew did an great job preparing and setting up another successful weekend in Cocoa Beach.

For the locals, it was cold, only 50F on Friday, but for me, being from near Toronto Canada, it was shorts weather.

Great weekend, Thanks

Bill Dewar

Brampton, Ontario Canada

 

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Doug Harding asked

How was CCB? I have seen any reports.

 

Doug, and all of the others unfortunates who did not or could not make the meet, here are my perceptions (and hopefully other will chime in as well)!

 

I drove down Wednesaday afternoon and saw snow along I75 in southern Ga and plenty of ice in the trees in north Florida, but had clear roads, since the storm had left town shortly before.  I arrived that evening after a brief detour to pick up another attendee at the Orlando airport.  That was my 1st experience with Orlando, which struck me as pretty nice looking with horrible traffic patterns!  I'm used to Hotlanta and this was much worse! The weather the entire weekend was chilly, but still way warmer than most of the USA! It was clear that some folks could not make it, so the crowd was a bit smaller and some presenters had to cancel. Jeff and his crew were able to find a number of replacement talks, sometimes (like thursday evening) on litterally a couple of hours notice! 

 

On Thursday afternoon, I joined the ops session on Mike Brock's Union Pacific layout, and while electrical gremlins arose with the very first train that ran, we chased the gremlins away and ran 9 more trains for a very successful ops session.

 

The number of models was down a little from porevious years, meaning that there was plenty of space for the ones that were there.  As always, I find this one of the best parts of the meet, with lots of great models, models in progress and modelers willing to discuss their work.

 

The number of vendors was also down, with F&C being one of the noted absentees.  Rapido was unable to attend but sent a display.  Others were there though with lots of good stuff.  One new vendor, Mike Brusky of Dimensional Modeling Concepts​​, had some really interesting 3D printed models and also gave an excellent clinic on the technology he uses and his approach to making models. As usual, I spent a bunch of money with Bob's Photos. I did not hear any direct news of new releases being announced, but others may have.  The Intermountain folks had several test shots, but nothing that excited me.

 

I have to say that I think that this may have been one of the best years for clinics, or at least clinics that I found informative and very well done.  I attended one nearly every slot and didn't have any that did not live up to my expectations.

 

Two dinners at Roberto's Cuban restaurant and one a new place to me, Cafe Europa, meant that I came home a few pounds heavier than when I left for CCB!  The chef at Cafe Europa was the executive chef on the BNSF businbess car and so we heard some interesting tales of his life on the rails over dinner.

 

Next year's meet will be moved to the next weekend (or we would have started on the 3rd!) so mark your calendars for the 10th through the 12th of January 2019.

 

Regards

Bruce 

Bruce Smith
​Auburn, AL


Cocoa Beach Report, was M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

Bruce Smith
 

Doug Harding asked

How was CCB? I have seen any reports.


Doug, and all of the others unfortunates who did not or could not make the meet, here are my perceptions (and hopefully other will chime in as well)!

I drove down Wednesaday afternoon and saw snow along I75 in southern Ga and plenty of ice in the trees in north Florida, but had clear roads, since the storm had left town shortly before.  I arrived that evening after a brief detour to pick up another attendee at the Orlando airport.  That was my 1st experience with Orlando, which struck me as pretty nice looking with horrible traffic patterns!  I'm used to Hotlanta and this was much worse! The weather the entire weekend was chilly, but still way warmer than most of the USA! It was clear that some folks could not make it, so the crowd was a bit smaller and some presenters had to cancel. Jeff and his crew were able to find a number of replacement talks, sometimes (like thursday evening) on litterally a couple of hours notice! 

On Thursday afternoon, I joined the ops session on Mike Brock's Union Pacific layout, and while electrical gremlins arose with the very first train that ran, we chased the gremlins away and ran 9 more trains for a very successful ops session.

The number of models was down a little from porevious years, meaning that there was plenty of space for the ones that were there.  As always, I find this one of the best parts of the meet, with lots of great models, models in progress and modelers willing to discuss their work.

The number of vendors was also down, with F&C being one of the noted absentees.  Rapido was unable to attend but sent a display.  Others were there though with lots of good stuff.  One new vendor, Mike Brusky of Dimensional Modeling Concepts​​, had some really interesting 3D printed models and also gave an excellent clinic on the technology he uses and his approach to making models. As usual, I spent a bunch of money with Bob's Photos. I did not hear any direct news of new releases being announced, but others may have.  The Intermountain folks had several test shots, but nothing that excited me.

I have to say that I think that this may have been one of the best years for clinics, or at least clinics that I found informative and very well done.  I attended one nearly every slot and didn't have any that did not live up to my expectations.

Two dinners at Roberto's Cuban restaurant and one a new place to me, Cafe Europa, meant that I came home a few pounds heavier than when I left for CCB!  The chef at Cafe Europa was the executive chef on the BNSF businbess car and so we heard some interesting tales of his life on the rails over dinner.

Next year's meet will be moved to the next weekend (or we would have started on the 3rd!) so mark your calendars for the 10th through the 12th of January 2019.

Regards
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
​Auburn, AL


Re: 2018 Shake'n'Take ERIE 95000 Series 40' 50 ton double door box car

Armand Premo
 

Schuyler,I missed my first ever "Meet at the Beach".I would like to build the car.Any help you can give as to plans and purchase would be deeply appreciated. Thank you ,,Armand Premo

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:35 PM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

All,

 

I’ve just uploaded the PPT show I gave at the Prototype Modelers Meet at Cocoa Beach, as well as the instructions for the project.  The instructions are in Word.

 

At some point shortly, I’ll post a link to the Google Photos folder I accumulated while building the car.  I may not get around to editing out some of the less-successful photos so there may be a lot of duplication.  You can download and keep whichever of the images you find useful.

 

I will also, shortly, post a list of the things you need in addition to an Intermountain 40899, which is an undecorated kit for a 10’-6” IH single door box.  Greg and I are looking into how we can best make these other parts available; not all are straight commercial parts.

 

Any questions I will be happy to assist.  And for the obvious, I will take a decent pictures of the completed car and upload those too.

 

Schuyler

 



Re: M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

Bill Welch
 

I will try to write up a short report, dealing with a broken Radiater fan shaft. Glad it did not happen on the road or damage the radiator.

Bill Welch


2018 Shake'n'Take ERIE 95000 Series 40' 50 ton double door box car

Schuyler Larrabee
 

All,

 

I’ve just uploaded the PPT show I gave at the Prototype Modelers Meet at Cocoa Beach, as well as the instructions for the project.  The instructions are in Word.

 

At some point shortly, I’ll post a link to the Google Photos folder I accumulated while building the car.  I may not get around to editing out some of the less-successful photos so there may be a lot of duplication.  You can download and keep whichever of the images you find useful.

 

I will also, shortly, post a list of the things you need in addition to an Intermountain 40899, which is an undecorated kit for a 10’-6” IH single door box.  Greg and I are looking into how we can best make these other parts available; not all are straight commercial parts.

 

Any questions I will be happy to assist.  And for the obvious, I will take a decent pictures of the completed car and upload those too.

 

Schuyler

 


Re: Early Illinois Traction Gondolas

Dennis Storzek
 

Wow! That center hopper car is very reminiscent of a car that was written up as a scratchbuilding project in MR over fifty years ago... maybe a Jack Work article, maybe a CPR prototype. I don't recall if there were drawings, but there must have been.

Dennis Storzek 


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Early Illinois Traction Gondolas

Doug Forbes
 

Group,

I have uploaded two pictures of early IT (Illinois Traction) gondolas.  These are from "ITS Photo, M. Fortney collection" and used by permission.  I am looking for any information, dimensions, plans, photos of these, especially what appears to be the center dump 3065 as well as the apparently flat bottomed 9653 and the 6058.  I am hoping to create a 3D print of these, such as I did with an early IT Rodgers ballast hopper as seen here http://shpws.me/OWZN and blogged about here http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/29466.  Any help or info or comments would be greatly appreciated. 


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Re: M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

Clark Propst
 

Gene Green’s instructions for these box cars was more like personal coaching over a several year span. He never wanted to feed me too much info at any one time  ;  ))
 
Main spotting features:
Ends – Superior hand brake, long straps fastening the placards, no poling pocket/bracket cut at an angle 
Sides – pulling loops near end ends, Youngtown doors on the 53000, Superior doors on 54000. post war (Southwest models) doors on the 56000. All even numbers
Roof – either Ajax or US Gypsum steel running boards, roof unpainted?
Underside – Branchline Barber S-2 trucks
 
Think that’s it? Off the top of my head anyway....
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa
 
Clark--In your offer for sale, you wrote:

"These are detailed as per Gene Green’s instructions including Barber S-2 trucks with Intermountain wheel sets and Kadee scale head whisker couplers."

Are Gene's instructions accessible online? I looked in the Files here. I tried a search of the archives here, but I couldn't convince Yahoo to do a complete search of Conversations without getting an error notice. I ddin't see anything on the STMFC site either.

Thanks for the help!

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

Douglas Harding
 

Bill, time and money kept me from attending. Only so many vacations days and only so much money. How was CCB? I have seen any reports.

 

As for M&StL freight car info, I have quite a stash, including Clark’s many articles and various notes from Gene Green.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

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Doug, missed you this past weekend at CCB. thank you for the reminder about the Superior Brake Gear parts. I just order nine.

 

Bill Welch


Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

vapeurchapelon
 

Bruce, Tim, and others,
 
lots of thanks for any replies. Problem solved.
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
 
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Betreff: Re: [STMFC] Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?
 

Bill,

 
In this case, CIL stands for Challenger Imports, Ltd.  ;)
 

Regards

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."

 
 

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AFAIK the Monon owned no cars like this. It is a rebuild specific to the UP.
 
Bill Welch
 
 

 


Tanks for looking

Clark Propst
 

 
Thought I’d offer something other than a box car...
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

In this case, CIL stands for Challenger Imports, Ltd.  ;)

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




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AFAIK the Monon owned no cars like this. It is a rebuild specific to the UP.

Bill Welch




Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

Tim O'Connor
 


The cars had a small bracket hung under the end sill with a bottom-operated
uncoupling lever. A very easy detail to add. The McCoid photo of the B-end of
UP 180931 shows this very clearly.

Tim O'Connor



a week ago I was about to purchase a brass box car from CIL like this one:

https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/082096/HO-Brass-Model-CIL-2408-3-UP-Union-Pacific-B-50-17-Steel-Side-Boxcar-182300-F-P-Custom-Weathered

but then I saw there is no coupler lift bar or any other uncoupling device usually found on every piece of rolling stock. It would be odd if CIL forgot such a major part of a model, but seemingly they did. Does anyone have a link to a photo where one can see what the real thing looked like?

Johannes


Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

Brian Carlson
 

How’d the Monon get into this discussion? CIL is the importer. Bill has freight car brain. :)  

Brian J. Carlson 

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AFAIK the Monon owned no cars like this. It is a rebuild specific to the UP.


Bill Welch


Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

gary laakso
 

I pulled out the Challenger box and you are correct that the model has no uncoupling devices were included.  It is a very fine model even with that omission.    

 

Gary Laakso

North west of Mike Brock

 

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Hello friends,

a week ago I was about to purchase a brass box car from CIL like this one:

https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/082096/HO-Brass-Model-CIL-2408-3-UP-Union-Pacific-B-50-17-Steel-Side-Boxcar-182300-F-P-Custom-Weathered

but then I saw there is no coupler lift bar or any other uncoupling device usually found on every piece of rolling stock. It would be odd if CIL forgot such a major part of a model, but seemingly they did. Does anyone have a link to a photo where one can see what the real thing looked like?

Many thanks - and btw all the best for 2018 to all of you! :-)

Johannes


Re: missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

gary laakso
 

I pulled out the Challenger box and you are correct that the model has no uncoupling devices were included.  It is a very fine model even with that omission.    

 

Gary Laakso

North west of Mike Brock

 

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Subject: [STMFC] missing uncoupling device on CIL brass box car?

 

 

Hello friends,

a week ago I was about to purchase a brass box car from CIL like this one:

https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/082096/HO-Brass-Model-CIL-2408-3-UP-Union-Pacific-B-50-17-Steel-Side-Boxcar-182300-F-P-Custom-Weathered

but then I saw there is no coupler lift bar or any other uncoupling device usually found on every piece of rolling stock. It would be odd if CIL forgot such a major part of a model, but seemingly they did. Does anyone have a link to a photo where one can see what the real thing looked like?

Many thanks - and btw all the best for 2018 to all of you! :-)

Johannes


Re: M&StL 53000-54998 Boxcars

Bill Welch
 

Doug, missed you this past weekend at CCB. thank you for the reminder about the Superior Brake Gear parts. I just order nine.

Bill Welch

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